Why "clean eating" is a myth

Unless there is a reason, like "I really love Chalupas and still want to eat them regularly."

I don't know what you are talking about, because here in Mexico Chalupas are 100% clean/natural/whole foods and that is why I enjoy them and other botanas often.....yay !

I honestly didn't know chalupas were an actual thing. I figured it was some word Taco Bell made up that sounded vaguely like a Mexican food :laugh:

You get the idea though. "I really really like a lot of foods that are not considered clean, see no reason to cut them out, and will probably have compliance issues if I try" is a good enough reason for many people not to "try" eating clean.

http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/

If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.

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I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.

Unless there is a reason, like "I really love Chalupas and still want to eat them regularly."

I don't know what you are talking about, because here in Mexico Chalupas are 100% clean/natural/whole foods and that is why I enjoy them and other botanas often.....yay !

I honestly didn't know chalupas were an actual thing. I figured it was some word Taco Bell made up that sounded vaguely like a Mexican food :laugh:

You get the idea though. "I really really like a lot of foods that are not considered clean, see no reason to cut them out, and will probably have compliance issues if I try" is a good enough reason for many people not to "try" eating clean.

Yes, I get what you are saying, but would like to add that this statement is only applicable and true as far as Taco Bell is concerned.
Here in Mexico Chalupas are a mde-on-the-spot food and are made by grinding all natural corn that has been nixtamalized ( natural process that makes the nutrients in the corn more readily available ) and forming them and baking/toasting them on an artesanal or commericl comal/griddle. They are then stuffed with refried beans , topped with shredded lettuce, onions and salsa and topped with fresh cheese, or if people can spend more there is chicken , pork or beef between the beans and the green stuff.
Since here in Mexico everything ( as far as Chalupas are concerned ) is freshly made from scratch I consider them to be " whole & healthy " nutritious food. I have no idea how they are made at Taco bell and what chemicals the different ingredients have to ensure a relative shelf life in a national chain restaurant, but also have no idea what the original quality of the ingredients is like. Most likely that does not play a big role for weight loss, but could make a big difference imo as far as health is concerned.

http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/

If you're really interested in the info, then read the article. If you want to debate the info, read the article first then debate the information you disagree with, BUT be sure to have a reference to support your stance.
From what I've read and discovered from my time in the fitness industry, I find this article to be quite accurate when it comes to "clean eating" and it being a myth, especially when lots of information on eating is taken out of context.

A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

I didn't even read the rest of this thread. "Make sure to have a reference to support your stance." Since you didn't write this, and it's a blog of personal opinion, YOU don't have a source. :noway: Hilarious. Go back to your first college class on writing research papers and revisit how to evaluate credible sources.

You should've read instead of making ridiculous statements.

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This was helpful.

I agree with the comment about people taking it too far. I've had so many people say if you want to fix this eat this way, or you HAVE to be gluten free to lose this etc. If one more person tells me to go gluten free because its popular right now I'm going to eat an entire loaf of white bread infront of them to shut them up. If a particular "Diet" works for one person it doesn't mean it will work for another. And every 6 months or so its try this, or try that, Its like eating has turned into fads and its so exhausting. No one ever talks about blanace anymore. You have to balance everything you consume and see what works for you. Of course limiting processed is better for you, but seriously, people go overboard and throw it in your face so much I don't even listen anymore.

Eating clean= wash your hamburgers. Hahaha. Eat, drink and be merry. Everybody really takes this **** toooo serious. Eat, train the way you like to train, look in the mirror. You like what you see ? good. You don't like what you see ? Train Harder !!!!! But the most important part is enjoy the journey, have some fun with it. Nothing bothers me more than uptight people at the gym in tight spandex shirts looking like a scarecrow giving other people advice. All of the true champions I have met in life have always been really easy going and happy. That's the whole point here boys and girls, happiness, achievement of goals = winning at life. I eat a diet I "think" is healthy what you think could and more than likely is the complete polar opposite. However, that does not mean either one of us is right or wrong.

Unless there is a reason, like "I really love Chalupas and still want to eat them regularly."

I don't know what you are talking about, because here in Mexico Chalupas are 100% clean/natural/whole foods and that is why I enjoy them and other botanas often.....yay !

How in the world is a chalupa a whole food? An apple is a whole food.

This is one aspect that I think confuses people. Grind corn and toast it to make a cup then fill with ingredients of your choice, normally recognizable like pork, chicken peppers, cilantro......so the argument is because the corn was ground, normally mortar and pestle it's no longer a whole food but some concoction that is somehow less than the sum of it's parts or something to that thought process.

I don't think most people have a problem with the process of grinding corn up and making a tortilla from it, but a tortilla is no longer a whole food. The corn is. A taco can be made from 100% natural, processed-by-hand ingredients but it's not a whole food.

And people lean on that definition to support the fact that the food is no longer considered clean because it's been processed, therefore for the most part nothing is clean, therefore clean has no definition ad nauseam. Not saying everyone thinks this way but I see it every time a thread talks about clean.

Nutritionally speaking that isn't a whole food anymore... That's why I was perplexed. I had thought you were being sarcastic at first, but now I see you were not.
Just going to hide now.

Maybe the fact that I am not a native speaker of English ( even though I got both my MAs in Nutritional Science from US Universities and that is where I learned those principles ) is the reason for my not explaining things well....maybe.
I learned that what I described is a " whole foods " based diet and I use the word to avoid the dreaded " clean eating " expression because I am sick and tired of the " I wash my hamburger and therefore I eat clean " gang and all those other inflexible members who do nothing but repeat the same baseless stuff over and over again without giving it any major thought. Maybe I need to use " whole foods based " in the future to make myself more clear.
In no way am I saying that this diet is better, except where personal choice and preference are concerned, but would like to make the point that often something that is considered junk in one country/culture/area or family is concerned more healthy ( I hope that is an acceptable expression...no sarcasm intended ) in another, because the basic ingredients are different , as it could possibly be the case with those Chalupitas....:o).
For example for me a certain type of pizza could be healthy/natural/whole food based if home made from all natural ingredients, while I would automatically assume that a pizza from a chain or frozen from a super market would not fall under the same category.

Perhaps the difference between a local taqueria that prepares butterflied chicken on the grill versus taco bell where they squeeze the "meat" (is it even 100% meat these days?) out of a bag?