Daughter needs help

Hello, I guess a few days ago I wrote that my daughter is overweight... she 11 years old and is 134lbs and 4'8'. BMI or 98..
I know it is horrible.. but we have been waiting for her to want to do something about it... and finally I have said enough is an enough and it is time to start walking... now that the weather is getting good.. (she hates all forms of exercise and because she is fat she feels self conscience about playing outside.. because children pick on her..)

I am happy to report she is walking (1hour a night) and doesn't complain after she gets started.... the hard part is getting her started.. we are trying to make the walk.. family time... and we play with her and make her run a little... by racing her...

We have limited all bad food from the house such as cookies and chips.... not just for her but for myself also...

I know as parents it is our job to support her and to help guide her... I was just wondering if there are parents like myself... that are trying to help their own son or daughter lose weight and what are you doing to get them to want to lose it...and what has been benefitual in their progress...
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  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    Labeling food as "good" or "bad" is not the best start in creating healthy behaviors.
  • Miamiuu
    Miamiuu Posts: 262 Member
    Its good that you got involved and she will thank you when she is thinner. I was chubby growing up and not once did my parents tell me or help me exercise, or put me on diets. Im still over weight today. I do resent them a little for not getting me a gym membership, or being concerned about my weight.
  • OllyReeves
    OllyReeves Posts: 579 Member
    Good luck mate, I appreciate your fears. Good luck with this thread too, I anticipate a lot of people will jump on you about this.
  • rlw0031
    rlw0031 Posts: 88 Member
    I would say it is good that you got rid of the cookies and chips. try making a special dessert every couple weeks and enter give away the extra or throw it away. And allow for a treat almost daily, something she likes after dinner or something. Show her she can eat her treats in moderation and still lose weight. It is awesome she/you are walking an hour daily. That will really help. Provide healthy meals for her daily.
  • Mia_RagazzaTosta
    Mia_RagazzaTosta Posts: 4,885 Member
    It's good that you're getting her active and making it fun for her, but I'd stop with the "good food/bad food" mentality because you're doing more harm than good. There are no bad foods; there are just bad quantities of food. Teach her (and yourself) moderation and you'll be way better off.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    I would try teaching her about how bodies work. Kidshealth.com and myplate.gov have education materials and games for kids. Knowing that you are fat and that everyone thinks you are fat can be depressing and demotivating. Understanding why your parents are changing the way you care for the family's bodies and what benefits that will bring (beyond not being fat) is a little more practical and doesn't focus on the aesthetics.
  • rlw0031
    rlw0031 Posts: 88 Member
    Why would they jump on them. They are trying to help their daughter. You can do that in a way that won't teach her to be an obsessive diet minded woman. Remember she needs to eat. Small deficit is best. Don't restrict her. Provide healthy foods.
  • If she's already getting embarrassed by doing exercise because of her weight then she's probably aware that it's an issue. The best thing you can do as a parent is set a good example (as you appear to be doing) and educate her on healthy living in terms of keeping active and making better food choices (not necessarily 'good' or 'bad')

    I'm not sure where you're based in the world but the NHS in the UK has a great family oriented Healthy Lifestyle page with lots of support and resources. I hope you can access it where you are as it has great tips :smile:

    http://www.nhs.uk/change4life/Pages/change-for-life.aspx
  • Sunshine2plus2
    Sunshine2plus2 Posts: 1,492 Member
    Good luck and she will thank you later! I grew up a fat kid stayed that way clear into my late 20's! Just remember you cant out exercise a bad diet! Make sure everything you bring in the home is good and make sure if you have other children for them not to bring in bad food or eat anything bad around her!
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    It is good to start now on getting her to embrace healthier habits, I think about the struggles with weight I have had literally my entire life and I wish I could have rectified it when I was younger. I'm not saying put her on a diet and force her to exercise, but show her how tasty healthier foods can be and get her into something physical she enjoys, maybe something her friends are doing, just to get her used to an active life. I wish my parents had helped me understand the importance of diet and exercise when I was young. and if anybody has a problem with it, F-em it's not like you are forcing her to eat certain foods and adhere to a strict exercise regime, you seem like a concerned parent who wants to lead her down a healthier path by example and not force, which I am sure a lot of us wish our parents did earlier on in our lives.
  • jlshea
    jlshea Posts: 494 Member
    Do you use a pedometer or anything to track the progress? That might get her motivated, seeing how many miles or how much time she's committing to her walking. Maybe set a goal each month to get in X miles and if the goal is met you can do something fun as a reward? With warmer weather coming up maybe you can start doing bike rides as an alternative or checking out a local YMCA. They have tons of fun kid classes.

    Also, check with your insurance benefits. I work for a health care provider and we offer a program for kids and teens, its a family type program that focuses on diabetes prevention through better eating habits and working towards a healthy weight and is offered at no cost to the family.

    Its really smart getting rid of junk foods from the house. It helps me and I'm 34 years old, having it not around is huge. If she likes to cook and bake maybe you can check out Pinterest for some healthy meal ideas together? Maybe if she starts helping prepare meals that are healthy it will help get her in that mindset? Maybe go walk around a farmers market and plan a fresh produce meal that she is part of.

    Other kids can be so cruel.
  • LoraF83
    LoraF83 Posts: 15,694 Member
    Rather than forcing her to walk, why not find something she enjoys? There are lots of games for the Wii and Xbox Kinect that can get her moving. Play a fun dancing game as a family. Take walks if you want, but don't make exercise a chore or you are only hindering your cause.

    And please don't label foods as "good" and "bad". You're setting her up for disordered thinking about food. Instead, talk about how to make healthy choices most of the time and that it's ok to have treats some of the time. My kiddo will chose fruit or pretzels or string cheese for snacks.....even though we have chips and cookies in the house. She does this because she knows that healthy food is good for her. Then, it's not a big deal when we have a bowl of ice cream a few times a week. Find that balance and moderation, rather than restricting her so severely.
  • lisaann1976
    lisaann1976 Posts: 11 Member
    My daughter is 11 years old also and weighs closer to 150... i have tried and tried to motivate her but she has no interest in changing. I am lost. I have been getting her to walk with me once or twice a week. I am really hoping wih the weather getting nicer that I can get her outdoors more. If you find something that works please let me know.
  • ecottencat
    ecottencat Posts: 46 Member
    I honestly see nothing wrong with this. You are making it family time and trying to make it fun for all of you including her. The other thing that might work is have her help with meals. Make cooking dinner family time and make healthy dinners and turn some of her favorites into something healthy by adding veggies or substituting something unhealthy for something else. If you have a gaming system. l would get one of those dancing games and have a family night where you are up and playing the game. Its all about doing this as a family and not singling her out. It takes time but once she sees the results in herself and sees you doing this along with her she will come around.
  • thatgirlkellib
    thatgirlkellib Posts: 150 Member
    Good luck, I know there are millions of kids that need this kind of help from their parents, keep up the good work !
  • Sunshine2plus2
    Sunshine2plus2 Posts: 1,492 Member
    My daughter is 11 years old also and weighs closer to 150... i have tried and tried to motivate her but she has no interest in changing. I am lost. I have been getting her to walk with me once or twice a week. I am really hoping wih the weather getting nicer that I can get her outdoors more. If you find something that works please let me know.

    Its not about exercise! Start eating healthier foods! You can not out exercise a bad diet! Good luck!
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
    I'm not going to address any of the issues but one. By labeling foods as good and bad you are setting her up to fail. It's good to be knowledgeable about nutrition, but by 'banning' some foods from your house, you will be setting her up to binge on the foods she craves. Trust me, she will find and succeed in getting these foods sooner or later. It will also encourage secret eating.

    It's a learning experience to eat healthy. Do it together. Talk about the benefits of eating well 80% of the time and leaving some room for treats in moderation. If you can help her learn this - she will have a mighty tool in her tool belt for being a healthy weight in adulthood.
  • thickerella
    thickerella Posts: 154 Member
    My son is a healthy weight, but I have kept an eye on his weight because *I* weigh so much. It is hard to know what a child's needs are calorically because they sometimes need more during growth spurts. There are time when my 5yo can eat more than me and my fiancee combined.

    The key to keeping a child at a healthy weight is supplying lots of healthy choices, and exercise. Walking is a good start, but an 11yo should be running, climbing, jumping, and using her body in a variety of different ways.

    If she doesn't want to do sports, what about something else that gets her outside and active? Are there any horseback riding lessons near you? It's been a LONG time since I've been an 11yo girl, but I remember a fairly passionate love of horses being pretty common at that age.

    Definitely keep up the family activities, but don't label it as "exercise." Exercise should NOT be a chore at 11. It should be a function of being young, vibrant, and mobile. Play soccer with her. Basket ball. Chase. Challenge her to climb a tree. Run to the park. Buy her a game like Dance Dance Revolution or Wii Fit that promotes movement.

    Whatever you do, don't make an issue about her weight TOO her. She will already have enough influences in her life telling her she is worthless if she isn't the right size, parents should not add to the pile.
  • jchadden42
    jchadden42 Posts: 189
    I agree with much of what has been said. You want to be careful about labeling foods as good or bad, and you want to ensure that your daughter learns moderation so that when she is "allowed" cookies or cakes or sweets, she doesn't want/need to eat all of it. When I was growing up, we always had a choice to have some kind of dessert--homemade cakes or ice cream or cookies. As a result, I never felt like I was denied sweets, but I also never felt like I had to have them because they were available. Also, I would encourage you to offer fruit as a snack or dessert.

    I'm impressed that you are willing to work with her and not just tell her to get off her butt and get moving. Lead by example.
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    I think the most important thing for you is to avoid using terms like overweight, good/bad, fat, etc. Make everything about being HEALTHY. And yes, absolutely allow some treats in there, just maybe instead of buying a whole pack of Oreos, buy one of those packets with 6 smaller size cookies as a treat...one at a time!! It may be cheaper to buy an entire 1lb package of cookies but it is easier to binge.

    Keep having healthy (not good! healthy! :) ) snack choices in the house: fresh fruit, baby carrots (watch the dip), celery sticks - other veggies. I would also avoid having too much by way of juices in the house - stick to water and milk.

    Again it's all about being healthy - not fat/skinny. Do you guys all have bikes? Going on bike rides together is also a great exercise.
  • Greywalk
    Greywalk Posts: 193 Member
    Saw your post and will say with 5 out of 6 children I had good success. I like what my son said when he came to visit..."where are the chips? Hey your refrigerator only has fruit, veggies, and other healthy food in it" I did this to help with my weight management issues. For the others...I always played games with them when they were little and even workout with them now. I have one on the track team in school and another in soccer. These are the only two left at home. The others are adults. For the track team one, we run together and talk about once a week. It is part of our date together. For the soccer one I take her to practice, go to the gym while she is at practice and often on the weekend work out with her on her soccer stuff. Getting the girls outside is important to me. When the others come to visit or I visit them we normally go for a short run. I demonstrate through my commitment to my health that they too have to do so as adults. To the younger ones I workout with them in support of their healthy lifestyle. I asked one why she played her sport and she said, "I need something to stay in shape and this is fun for me." She is 12. What works for the children seems to be twofold.... and I am not the superdad here...but from just my small experience...
    1. Playing with them when younger working out with them when they get older.
    2. Living a healthy lifestyle and seeing me workout (headed off to the gym or out to run) even when I am tired or just don't feel like it.

    Good on you for assisting your daughter...keep do it because she will benefit in the long run as will you.
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  • tattsb4u
    tattsb4u Posts: 30
    My daughter is now 15 and is a varsity swimmer and cheerleader at her high school. She was a very heavy child and at the age of about 12 - 13 she just grew like a beanstalk. She grew 7" in nine months and finally grew into her weight. In all honesty....she was overweight because I was lazy (key word I was lazy, I am NOT trying to imply that you are) I was an overweight single mom and was always in a rush....so hot dogs, chips, macaroni and cheese and cartoons were the norm in our house. As she got older she started to make healthier choices, started sports and now she is the perfect size. My advice would be to do just what you are doing and please do not be hard on her about it. It sounds like she gets enough grief as it is at school. She only needs support, not ridicule from the ones she loves.... Also I would incorporate XBOX Kinect....or the Wii. We still love playing the dance games like Dance Dance Revolution or Just Dance. Its fun and it gets them up and moving along with myself. It is a journey but it is a journey that can be conquered. Good luck to you and yours :)
  • thickerella
    thickerella Posts: 154 Member
    My daughter is 11 years old also and weighs closer to 150... i have tried and tried to motivate her but she has no interest in changing. I am lost. I have been getting her to walk with me once or twice a week. I am really hoping wih the weather getting nicer that I can get her outdoors more. If you find something that works please let me know.

    Its not about exercise! Start eating healthier foods! You can not out exercise a bad diet! Good luck!

    I agree with you to a point. If you feed your kids nothing but calorie dense junk food, they will gain weight no matter what. That said, kids can get away with eating a higher percentage of calories per pound than adults because they are GENERALLY much more active. As I stated earlier, sometimes my 5yo eats more than I do, but he LITERALLY runs everywhere he goes and attempts to jump and climb everything he sees. Kids MOVE...or they should. Unfortunately, we spend a lot of time teaching them to sit still so they can function in a classroom. Not that I know of a better way, but I imagine that has a lot to do with why kids are gaining weight.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    I Did not see your other post - however I too have a daughter that is overweight. She is a twin - her sister is petite sadly she since birth has always been SOLID!!!

    My daughter is 9 - little younger than yours however same thing..HATES exercise. What I found is doing it as a family (walks etc.) REALLY helped. It has been far too cold here so we have not been able to. I bought the kids all sorts of games for the WII and xbox that require you move...I hid all the others lol

    I losing weight over the last year also was VERY careful how I spoke about me dieting. I am also the adult therefore I slowly started removing junk from the house and slowly switched their snacks. I believe these two things have helped. She is more conscious of what she eats. She is starting to read food labels and will even ask which is better when comparing food.

    Doing it in a careful and slow manner I think over all had a positive influence for her. I do not use the words "diet" or "fat" in my house. When they first started asking why i was eating something different (this was before I got everyone on the same train) I simply stated..I like to eat as healthy as possible so I have the energy to keep up. I used that term over and over again. And now...so does she!!

    Getting her to be active is a challenge - swimming...when we can is the best exercise because she loves it and will do it for hours!! When it gets warmer we will all go to the local track and do a few rounds. I bought them basketball hoop & tennis net which we will also utilize. If it is just her and her sister - she will not do it. If all of us get involved she doesn't hesitate.

    So the more things you can join in with your daughter...the less she may resist. Try to stay clear of the bad words (diet - fat - etc). Teach her about healthy eating..not dieting!!

    Also - juice was an issue here. I myself always have something to drink!! I switched their juice to Water Fruits - it is only 40 calories verse the other stuff and far less sugar. My kids can not have artificial sugar so finding something other than water and 100% juice has been a challenge. The water fruits beat that challenge. My girls have 2 veggies with dinner and the same amount of protein as I do. They have fruit with breakfast & lunch. I tend to do 150 - 200 calorie snack limit (includes juice is they opt for that instead of water)- lunch usually about 300 calories and dinner varies. We do not use school lunches - I make them lunch! School days - they get water with their snacks and juice or unsweetened almond milk with lunch.
    No complaints from either child :) I have found countless alternatives to their favorites at a much lower calorie count!

    There is no "diet" for a child so it is hard - Dr.s usually just say limit the juice and make them exercise...easy for you to say! Especially when my girls both eat the same exact thing and do the same things yet one weighs a heck of alot more. She is built like her Dad :( Making small changes here and there and staying on that train with her...will give her the tools she needs to be successful..just be sure to "teach" not preach ;)
  • beth4dieting3
    beth4dieting3 Posts: 80 Member
    When I was 10, my Mom said to me, "You know, if you suck in your gut and stand up straight, you'll lose 10 pounds." I never forgot it. Her "fat days" were a whopping 136lbs and I hit that in 8th grade. I had never felt fat before and in that moment, years of struggle began. Be VERY careful how you make her FEEL. She is 11 and is at an age where her body should be gearing up for puberty and naturally thicken a little. She also may be between growth spurts since she will continue growing until about age 15. The tone of your message is very negative ("bad" food, she's "fat," "horrible" etc). I can only imagine what you have conveyed to this young girl. You need to be VERY CAREFUL that you don't start her down a path of negative viewpoint on food and body image. It's hard enough at school, let alone at home. Reduce the foods, give her an ipod with a head set, put her in dance, take her to Jump Street, go swimming, do your walks, etc. But, whatever you do, guard her spirit and self-image. She is BEAUTIFUL at any weight and this should be about HEALTH - NOT about being "FAT." Also remember she is still growing. My son was chunky and bullied mercilessly for his weight "problem" by the kids at school. He had some bad habits and little at a time, I addressed them. I also encouraged him by telling him that he will grow and it will even out. He's now 12 and 5'5 and over the past two years, has lost 40 lbs by playing sports, making some dietary changes and the ever-encouraging puberty and noticing girls really changed his mindset. He looks fantastic and is fighting off the girls. I'm just saying .... let her be 11... help but don't damage. Good luck.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    OP, I applaud you for taking steps to help your daughter. Has she been evaluated psychologically? I ask this, because I was a chubby kid. Turns out I was dealing with generalized anxiety disorder and depression. Back in those days, no one thought to evaluate children for those types of things. I was just labelled a 'worrier'. So I over ate as a means to self medicate. Later in life, I finally got treated, and my life changed dramatically. I had long since gotten control of my weight, but being treated for the disorders meant it was even easier for me to moderate my desire for sweets.

    I agree with everyone here who cautioned about the 'good food, bad food' mentality, and banning things from the house. If she wants the sweets (needs them) she will get them and hide it from you. Then she will feel guilty, resort to secret eating and a whole host of disordered eating habits MAY ensue.

    I wish you the very best of luck. Your daughter is lucky to have a dad like you. :flowerforyou:
  • thomaszabel
    thomaszabel Posts: 203 Member
    I am going through the same thing with my son. He is 8, and about 30 pounds overweight. Luckily he is concerned about his weight, and is willing to work on getting it down.

    He was on a swim team, and we switched a few months ago to another one which is more intense, so he gets 1 1/2 hours of straight swimming per day (no breaks longer than 30 seconds), I put his bicycle on my indoor rollers and he rides on them 3 times a week while looping his favorite youtube videos on a computer.

    But besides the exercise, we did the same thing as you as far as food. We now have no soda at home. He can have it once or twice a month when we go out to eat. I have cut out processed foods, and cut down on pasta and bread. I realized that we were way over the recommended daily allowance for pasta/bread and meat, so I cut that part of our meals in half, and replaced it with more vegetables and fruits that we were deficient in.

    I did all this with his buy-in, and after checking with his doctor. He likes my MFP but can't join because of age restrictions, so I set up a daily weight log in Excel that updates a graph to show his daily weight.

    So far it has been a success. We've been tracking our weight together, and he has lost almost 3 pounds in 4 weeks. That doesn't sound like a lot, but he is 8, and our goal isn't really to lose weight, but to just maintain his current weight and he will grow into it.

    Bottom line is a kid has to want to take the steps themselves. You can't force the changes on them unless there is a health issue. But it is working well. He's happy that he has lost a bit of weight. And the other day there was a birthday party at school with cupcakes. He ended up bringing it home and giving it to my wife, saying that he really didn't want it.
  • Debbjones
    Debbjones Posts: 278 Member
    (she hates all forms of exercise and because she is fat she feels self conscience about playing outside.. because children pick on her..)

    My first suggestion is that you remove the word "fat" from your vocabulary. We all come to a point where we face the fact we are overweight... but "fat" is such a hateful word that will resonate negatively on her for life. And coming from a parent, the memory of the hurt will never go away (when I was young my mother told me, because I was thin, I should not think too much of myself and then proceeded to tell me my thighs looked like a slab of "Ham". Coming from a parent that spent her life obese... these hurtful words I have never forgotten, that was nearly 45 years ago.

    All that said I think you are off to a great start by removing unnecessary sugars and candies from the home, encouraging walk and active play and most importantly setting a good example.

    As far as suggestions, I suggest you start reading nutritional labels. The was my big awakening with food! Then prepare your own prepackaged snacks, things like fruits and vegetables. Rice cakes with a little peanut butter are a great snack for pre-teens. Peanut butter, although high in fat (you can purchase the low fat alternative) is great in moderation and provides a good amount of protein.

    Again, congrats to you for taking the first step in better fitness for your daughter. Parenting is such a challenge and it appears you are moving in the right direction!
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    I understand completely. I have a 9 yr old that weighs 109. He's short, so is stocky. We're trying really hard to make the necessary changes, but since the weather has been cold, it's not easy at all. I didn't see your other post, but it looks like your setting a good example :-)