Dieting = Craving BAD foods
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First things first - your husband needs to butt out about willpower. He's not helping.
Second - If you want a burger, have a burger. If you're an omnivore, red meat isn't off limits. If you want fries, go to McD's and get a small size. If you want three meat pizza,have a slice. Just plan the rest of your day around those foods.
Don't deny yourself the simple pleasures in life (within reason). Eventually, you might find yourself eating an entire pizza because you can't stop thinking about it..0 -
Just want to echo what everyone else is saying about having what you want, but in moderation. I know its not always that easy to just "eat in moderation" and how slippery of a slope it can be so here's some examples:
If I have chocolate or some other dessert in the house that I am really craving I will force myself to eat a healthy meal, or load up on veggies first and if I still want it, I have it. But they key is to never eat the craving food on an empty stomach because then you will overeat on it.
Like, the pizza... it can be bought by the slice at your average pizzeria. Have a huge salad when you go to the pizzeria (or load up on veggies,etc at home first) Eat that dang salad...then allow yourself the slice of pizza. Again .. don't go for the pizza on an empty stomach at meal time, because I know all too well how one slice can turn into 6 real quick.
For me, my big craving is sweets of any kind. I've found some solutions where I can "fake it".. I buy simply lite chocolate that more or less warns you not to over-consume or it will have a laxative effect (LMAO) so thats enough to keep me from binging. And I also really like various protein bars. It's not a real chocolate dessert, but its close enough for me. Maybe you too can find your fakey food. I think lean cuisine and similar try to do stuff like pizza. Give it a shot, ya never know. It might be good to have around to just satisfy that craving without destroying your calories for the day.
That's my advice. Good luck!
This hits home! If I eat when I feel like I'm starving, I do tend to overeat and realize after the fact that I'm OVERFULL. Thanks for the advice!
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I agree with what everyone has said, but wanted to add one thing. Sometimes the scaled down version is just not what you want. For example I had a craving for a pancake breakfast topped with fruit and whipped cream. I really wanted it. I didn't want just one pancake and to save the rest for later. It's never that soft deliciousness later. So I gave myself a date. I would have the pancake breakfast on Sunday morning what I was going out to eat with friends. All week whenever I thought of pancakes, I'd tell myself, "Sunday" and I save a little calories for it all week. Not a huge amount any day, but some each day. I woke up Sunday morning and went for a run. Then met with my friends and really enjoyed my breakfast. My craving was satisfied. I was well within my calories for the week and there was no guilt.0
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There are no bad foods. Get rid of that mindset and you will be fine.0
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So stop telling yourself you can't have something.
Set reasonable goals.
Stop labeling some food as "bad."
Make small changes at a time.
Do not expect everything to change overnight.
Be patient.
this...anyone who looks at my diary who is "dieting" would be shocked and disgusted by what I eat I am sure.
My ticker proves you don't have to give up those things you love to lose weight.
I eat burgers, DQ, BK, KFC..and all the other initals you can come up with along with chocolate, FF etc.
I eat the food I want ensuring I hit my macros, stay in goal but don't feel deprived.
QFT!!
Stop it, its quantity of what you consume that causes the issue , not the food itself, "i cant eat this" makes you only want it more, the power of the forbidden fruit and all that jazz...0 -
There are no BAD foods, only BAD portion sizes. Moderation is key.
I really like this quote. Really really.0 -
Have you tried eating the foods you love/crave/want, but just in smaller portion sizes? Most of the time this works for me. There are a couple of things that I avoid all together, but there aren't many.
What helped me when I first started eating in moderation was buying items in a single serve size, instead of buying in bulk and portioning myself. Example, I eat ice cream on a semi-regular basis, but I buy the single serving of my Haagen Dazs chocolate peanut butter ice cream instead of the pint because it controls the portion size for me.
Also, pre-logging my food for the day helped me figure out how I could fit in the foods I truly wanted, rather than only choosing "healthier" foods. The way I look at it, is that all foods are fine, as long as you pay attention to portion sizes. If I want ice cream, I'm going to budget those calories in my day somewhere! If I want pizza, and I know I'm going to want 3 slices, I make the choice to cut back my cals during other meals and/or snacks.
^ this. I can have moments of weakness too, but if you plan for it you can get out of it ok. For me, I still love eating out, but I just choose to do it on the weekends and try to walk more or eat a little less prior to my large dinner beforehand to make room for the caloric intake. I'm also an advocate for prelogging or at least having the menu/list of items in your head that you know you're going to eat-that way you'll know how much wiggle room you have for treats-for me I almost always have a 100 calorie pack of oreos or some peanut butter-that's my treat during the weekdays so I try to make sure I have enough calories for that, or if not I'll take a few walks around the block to bump my calories up to have them 
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You can still certainly have what you want, but as people mentioned it's all about moderation. I LOVE pasta, and I'm bringing it back into my diet-but I shoot to have the appropriate serving amount now (which isn't a whole lot) alongside something else yummy and nutritious.
Also, stuff happens and you give in to what you want or you relax because you're celebrating something, which is totally ok- happened to me last weekend. I went out to eat twice in a row! Boy I was full afterwards and the scale looked like I had gained like 3lbs out of nowhere! Guess what-after two days of going back to my regular routine, my body reset itself to the weight I had before my restaurant meals. I guess what I'm trying to say here is even if you have a few days where you go over, it's not the end of the world-just go back to your routine, drink lots of water and time will fix things.
Finally, It might sound crazy, but after some time of eating better/in moderation your cravings will go down-at least it did for me. Best of luck, hope this helps!0 -
If there's something you want, whether it's pizza, burgers, fries, cake, just work it into your day. It helps to pre-log your day so you can wiggle things around. But don't cut things out. You'll end up feeling deprived and miserable, and guess what.. .you'll go right back to the bad habits that got you here in the first place.
Moderation. It's all about moderating your portions, while eating the foods you love. There's no reason you can't eat the foods you love.0 -
Sorry if I end up repeating what someone else said.
Yes, work it into your regular food budget. When I think substitutions, I don't think "wheat crust for regular". If I'm craving a big thick rare burger a turkey burger isn't going to cut it!
Have the craved for food at lunch, not at the end of the day when you are tired. Go to a nice place to eat, make it a production not a "I can't take it any more" drive thru run. Get the thick yummy hamburger, but have a side salad with a light dressing or an order of veggies instead of fries. Drink water instead of soda or beer. Either have a light breakfast or cut the sandwich in half and let the second half be part of your dinner that night. Make it a deserved treat with good company. Then if you need to burn some extra calories because you went a little overboard, you have all afternoon and evening to get in some extra workout time.
Same thing for the pizza. Go to the place that makes the BEST pizza. Order a small and split it with a few friends and have a salad to round out the meal.
Doing that once a week will not throw you off your stride. In fact it might make it easier for you to stay on track because you can say to yourself "I am NOT caving and having ice-cream tonight, I don't want to cancel my Saturday lunch plans."
I have a free cupcake sitting on my MyPanera card. I'm fully intending on using it, not flipping out over the calories. The day of my next hair appointment "mommy" is going to have a cappuccino and a cupcake and read her book by the fire and get some alone time. I may end up taking the dog for an extra long walk that night, but I'm having the cupcake!0 -
There are no bad foods. You can still enjoy the things you mentioned, just fit them into your daily allowance.0
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We have pizza about once a month, we plan for it, make sure we can "afford" it and we made a rule- no pizza without salad. So if we want pizza, we have to make and eat a salad first.
I had the same issue like you, when I dieted I dreamt about pastries.
The key is to focus on saying YES to things. Yes to fruits/veggies, wholesome foods, yes to learning healthy cooking, yes to bringing snacks to work, and YES to planning ahead, including for treats.
When you change your mindset from NO to YES, it looks really different.0 -
There are no bad foods. You can still enjoy the things you mentioned, just fit them into your daily allowance.
I would suggest that some junk food go beyond being neutral to vein bad if they have a high content of trans fat (that's not particularly good for your body).0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
I totally disagree that there are no bad foods. Different foods effect you mentally and physically in different ways. When everyone decided that fat was bad they removed that from food and replaced it with sugar...and that's when everybody ballooned.
Whole food is good, processed food is bad.0 -
There are no bad foods. You can still enjoy the things you mentioned, just fit them into your daily allowance.
I would suggest that some junk food go beyond being neutral to vein bad if they have a high content of trans fat (that's not particularly good for your body).
I wouldn't personally think of that as making the food bad though. Trans fats are still fine to eat in moderation, it's again all about recognising which foods are sensible everyday and which are better being left for occasional consumption.0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
OP:
Disregard this nonsense.0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
The foods she mentioned craving had nothing to do with sugar. It was foods that are meaty, cheesy, etc. (hamburgers, pizzas).0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.
I did not say to remove fruits or vegetables, I said to cut out fruit for a while to reduce the fructose in your diet. After the detox you would add it back in. Learn to read, please.0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
I totally disagree that there are no bad foods. Different foods effect you mentally and physically in different ways. When everyone decided that fat was bad they removed that from food and replaced it with sugar...and that's when everybody ballooned.
Whole food is good, processed food is bad.
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Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.
I did not say to remove fruits or vegetables, I said to cut out fruit for a while to reduce the fructose in your diet. After the detox you would add it back in. Learn to read, please.
You didn't say remove fruits, you said to cut them out for a while.
What's the difference?
Sorry, your advice is awful, ridiculous, and is borne from a gross misunderstanding of biology and nutrition.
My advice stands: anyone who tells you to cut out fruit, for any length of time, should be completely ignored about everything forever.0 -
Does anyone else have the problem that when you are trying your best to eat healthier, make better choices, and move more that it's like your body/mind is fighting you?
I feel like I have NO control over what my body craves and wants. I get tired of telling myself that I can't have pizza, hamburgers, french fries, etc and I give in. My husband says it's because I don't have the willpower or the "want to", but I feel defeated EVERYTIME I make a lifestyle change and I don't stick with it.
I've tried the "food swaps" and while some of them are reasonable and delicious, most of them leave me wanting the real thing. Example: I made Spinach and Feta pizza on whole wheat crust instead of Three Meat pizza. While the taste was delicious, I still wanted meat.. and lots of it!
Maybe a lifestyle change is too drastic for you. Instead, go for a lifestyle adjustment. Just add in a few more nutrient dense foods and remove a few of those nutrient sparse foods. Don't go all or nothing, go some and some.
Edit: By remove I don't mean completely eliminate any food, just cut back.0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.
I did not say to remove fruits or vegetables, I said to cut out fruit for a while to reduce the fructose in your diet. After the detox you would add it back in. Learn to read, please.
You didn't say remove fruits, you said to cut them out for a while.
What's the difference?
Sorry, your advice is awful, ridiculous, and is borne from a gross misunderstanding of biology and nutrition.
My advice stands: anyone who tells you to cut out fruit, for any length of time, should be completely ignored about everything forever.
To the OP, take it or leave it, this has worked for me. As you can see people get really angry when you tell them to stop eating sugar, though, so beware.0 -
Does anyone else have the problem that when you are trying your best to eat healthier, make better choices, and move more that it's like your body/mind is fighting you?
I feel like I have NO control over what my body craves and wants. I get tired of telling myself that I can't have pizza, hamburgers, french fries, etc and I give in. My husband says it's because I don't have the willpower or the "want to", but I feel defeated EVERYTIME I make a lifestyle change and I don't stick with it.
I've tried the "food swaps" and while some of them are reasonable and delicious, most of them leave me wanting the real thing. Example: I made Spinach and Feta pizza on whole wheat crust instead of Three Meat pizza. While the taste was delicious, I still wanted meat.. and lots of it!
you are thinking all wrong..
there is no "bad" food..there is nothing wrong with eating pizza, hamburgers, French fries, etc, you just have to eat less of them.
If you eat those foods and maintain a deficit you will lose weight, period.
I always find that the 80/20 rule seems to work well for people...80% healthy, 20% whatever you want. I eat ice cream every day and drink on the weekends....0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.
I did not say to remove fruits or vegetables, I said to cut out fruit for a while to reduce the fructose in your diet. After the detox you would add it back in. Learn to read, please.
You didn't say remove fruits, you said to cut them out for a while.
What's the difference?
Sorry, your advice is awful, ridiculous, and is borne from a gross misunderstanding of biology and nutrition.
My advice stands: anyone who tells you to cut out fruit, for any length of time, should be completely ignored about everything forever.
To the OP, take it or leave it, this has worked for me. As you can see people get really angry when you tell them to stop eating sugar, though, so beware.
I don't think anyone is angry. Perhaps you're projecting?0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
OP:
Disregard this nonsense.
I wouldn't put it quite so bluntly, but I would certainly question if it is wise to do this or long term sustainable. Our body needs glucose (if it didn't then we wouldn't have a pancreas!)
I certainly would question Lustig's research as there's quite a few inaccuracies and ommisions in his work (his description of the Maillard browning process for example as being the reason that a banana browns) and his conclusions are disputed by a number of his peers.
The problem is that it is human nature to hope for a panacea. There really isn't one, the issue for most of us is our relationship with food. I got the size I am by eating for comfort or boredom, for most of us, the desire to overeat is usually related to emotion. (Obviously not for everyone, but it sounds like in your case OP, you have a similar situation to me that sometimes it's not really about being hungry, but about 'wanting' food)0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.
I did not say to remove fruits or vegetables, I said to cut out fruit for a while to reduce the fructose in your diet. After the detox you would add it back in. Learn to read, please.
You didn't say remove fruits, you said to cut them out for a while.
What's the difference?
Sorry, your advice is awful, ridiculous, and is borne from a gross misunderstanding of biology and nutrition.
My advice stands: anyone who tells you to cut out fruit, for any length of time, should be completely ignored about everything forever.
To the OP, take it or leave it, this has worked for me. As you can see people get really angry when you tell them to stop eating sugar, though, so beware.
I don't think anyone is angry. Perhaps you're projecting?
The last bastion of the person with no debate ammunition left: "My opponent is just angry." They then drop the microphone, put their hands in the air and walk away as if that last point is somehow a winner.
Worthless debate tactic is worthless (and silly).0 -
OP - I will add one more thing...pre-logging really helps with these things...so if I know that we are having a work luncheon with cake, burgers, etc, I go ahead and log that first and then build the rest of my day around it, so I know what my calorie and macro count will look like...0
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There are no bad foods. You can still enjoy the things you mentioned, just fit them into your daily allowance.
I would suggest that some junk food go beyond being neutral to vein bad if they have a high content of trans fat (that's not particularly good for your body).
I wouldn't personally think of that as making the food bad though. Trans fats are still fine to eat in moderation, it's again all about recognising which foods are sensible everyday and which are better being left for occasional consumption.
IMO a moderate amount of trans fat is zero (although that is a very difficult figure to achieve as it is in a lot of processed products).
Apart from studies showing it causes inflammation and oxidation in the body, there is a suggestion it causes more weight gain (per calorie) than other fats!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060619133024.htm0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.
I did not say to remove fruits or vegetables, I said to cut out fruit for a while to reduce the fructose in your diet. After the detox you would add it back in. Learn to read, please.
You didn't say remove fruits, you said to cut them out for a while.
What's the difference?
Sorry, your advice is awful, ridiculous, and is borne from a gross misunderstanding of biology and nutrition.
My advice stands: anyone who tells you to cut out fruit, for any length of time, should be completely ignored about everything forever.
To the OP, take it or leave it, this has worked for me. As you can see people get really angry when you tell them to stop eating sugar, though, so beware.
Also, I looked up the symptoms of an out of balance vata dosha, which you claim you have according to your profile. Symptoms include being underweight, fatigue, poor stamina, rough skin, etc. That describe you?0 -
Cut out the sugar, I mean ALL fructose (HFCS, table sugar, fruit juice, anything with fructose) and even all fruit for a while. You will have to read labels like a hawk to make sure they do not have any added sugar. No processed foods. If you do this your body will detox from the sugar and return to your natural hunger signals. The cravings will get much better. After 8 weeks you can add back in some fruit but only eat fructose in the whole fruit so it is tempered by the fiber. Check out the book "Fat Chance" by Dr. Robert Lustig and a webite called "I Quit Sugar."
To the OP and anyone else reading along.....
If anyone ever tells you to cut out fruits and/or vegetables, tell them to go jump in a lake, and ignore anything they ever say about anything ever.
I did not say to remove fruits or vegetables, I said to cut out fruit for a while to reduce the fructose in your diet. After the detox you would add it back in. Learn to read, please.
You didn't say remove fruits, you said to cut them out for a while.
What's the difference?
Sorry, your advice is awful, ridiculous, and is borne from a gross misunderstanding of biology and nutrition.
My advice stands: anyone who tells you to cut out fruit, for any length of time, should be completely ignored about everything forever.
I'm not suggesting cutting out fruit, but what's the big deal if the OP did. It's not essential food?0
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