2 year plateau and confused about differences in calories
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Wow. 9 pages of advice from people who've had success and all of it was wrong? I don't understand these kinds of posts. Did she really think there was going to be a magic formula?0
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Okay, so here is two days from my diary....
GOAL 1740 per day.
Tuesday
Breakfast
Aramark Cafeteria Scrambled Eggs ½ cup 120 Cals
Pillsbury White Chocolate Raspberry Chunk Scone 440
560
Coffee black.
Lunch
Kellogg’s Special K Deluxe Egg and Cheese Flatbread Sandwich 120 Cals
Red Plum 30 Cals
Fiber One Brownie 90
Cals
310
Dinner
Fazoli’s Chicken Parm 870 cals
2 breadsticks 300
TOTAL
Remaining 64
Wednesday
Breakfast
Aramark Cafeteria Scrambled Eggs ½ cup 120 Cals
Raspberry Pastry (yeah, I know, was going bad) 340
460
Coffee black.
Lunch
Food Lion Blueberry Bagel (per website) 270 cals
Smucker’s Peanut Butter 1.5 oz tub 240
510
Dinner
Cracker Barrel Dinner: 2 scrambled eggs, 1 slice Colby cheese, 2 slices sourdough bread, 1 serving hashbrown casserole, 1 pat butter, 1 grape jam.
791
Water unless coffee specified.
Snack
Costco Pineapple Spears..2 cups 148
217 remaining after 420 exercise cals.
I have no comment on what you are choosing to eat (see my comment about the 1200 calorie shake last night), but here's what's jumping out at me:
Cafeteria scrambled eggs - how do you know it's only 1/2 cup? Are they dense or fluffy? This is not an accurate logging at all. IME, 1/2 C of scrambled eggs would be more than 2 full eggs...that's definitely more than 120 calories without adding in any oil or fat for cooking and I can almost guarantee that some is used. Even places that serve "healthy" egg white only omelettes and eggs will cook them in butter or some type of fat. Say what you think is 1/2 C is actually 1/2 heaping cup which is equal to 10 T instead of 8. This automatically is 125% of your original calculation, so would be 150 calories instead of 120. Now, say they add just a bit of oil...1/2 t only (which is pretty much nothing). That's another 20 calories, making you now off by 50 calories on your one food item. Now, say that it takes 2 large eggs to make 1/2 C scrambled eggs. This means that it's 140 calories instead of 120. Do the math with the other scenarios, and you're now at 195 calories instead of 120 and that's with only 1/2 t oil used for cooking.
What's a raspberry pastry? What was the size? How much did it weigh? Did it come from a labelled package? This is where a food scale would be a great help, even if you have the package it came in. Say 1 serving is supposed to weigh 75 grams. You weigh it and it weighs 100 grams. Instead of 340 calories you've had 450 calories. Or, if you don't have the NI for that exact item and you pick what you think is a close approximation, there is absolutely no way to know if you are off by hundreds of calories or not. Knowing the weight will help (you can choose the 100 gram option instead of just saying 1 large pastry), but there's no way to really accurate if you are eating a fresh made food not made by you. Same for the bagel. Sure, the website says 1 bagel is 270 calories and 112 grams but is it really? Maybe the baker was generous and it weighs 150 grams. There's another 90 calories added to your day.
The cracker barrel? They don't post NI so anything you find is just going to be an estimate. I know they use butter/oil to make the scrambled eggs - have you noticed that they glisten? You could be off by a couple hundred calories at Cracker Barrel, easily, even if the 790 is accurate for what you are supposed to get. If the chef used a bit more oil for the eggs and they were extra generous with your serving of hashbrown casserole, there's calories you haven't accounted for.
Your pineapple spears? Well, depending on how you chunk them, you can fit more or less in a C than is accounted for. Maybe you actually had 3 cups worth? Who knows. Using a food scale eliminates this - if you weigh 100 grams, then you are having 100 grams.
This!!
I have learned a lot myself just from reading this post and the rest of these post. Even I think I am doing right, but this makes me ask myself some questions about if I really am eating the right amount.
I posted a question the other day to get feedback about my weight loss. The answer to mine was the same as yours. I obviously was not eating at a deficit. I too said what was on my mind and it sounded like I did not want the advice, but I quickly changed how I was wording my responses, because I appreciate EVERYONE's advice. Some people are more sensitive then others and may take written verbiage a lot differently then how it would really come out by mouth. I took everyone's advice from my post and I am using it as we speak. If I have this many people telling me the same thing, then who is right?! Me or them? I think weight loss and all that comes with it is new for anyone until you have gone through it. Take the advice and run with it. Give it a try and if it doesn't work than you know you need an actual nutritionist or dietician's advice. Good luck OP!0 -
As someone who reads the forums a lot but doesn't post/comment very often - it always amazes me how the ability to use logic and reason completely goes out the window when someone is describing their personal situation. If OP were reading this entire thread, as I've done just now, and it didn't have anything to do with her, I wonder what her advice/recommendations would be for someone in the same situation? It just boggles my mind how readily people jump to the "you don't understand me and my situation" or "you are rude/aggressive/snarky" or "that won't work for me because of (insert arbitrary excuse)".0
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Okay, I really am done with this.
I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.
My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.
One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.
I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.
I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.
My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.
I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
I'm out. Think what you want to of me.
Well, if you want to lose weight, it is! At least we figured out why you can't lose :flowerforyou:
Yes, You could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying this in the first place: I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
If you don't put the time in to it, it won't work. PERIOD.
I don't think that's the entire answer, but thanks.
You didn't have to respond.
:sick: I gave you a better answer a few pages ago - you didn't like that one either..... I don't think you'll like anyone's response.
I think you should add psychiatrist to the list of doctors you need to see along with the Endo and GP.....
It's not that I don't like anyone's answer. All I am saying is I know that eating 1200 calories a day is NOT the answer for me and all sorts of assumptions are being made.
I really wish I hadn't started this thread.
And really...a psych..that's not nice.
Okay.
1.) You said you were leaving. Apparently not.
2.) No one, anywhere, recommended you do 1200.
3.) We don't have to make assumptions that your calorie counting is inaccurate if it is, in fact, inaccurate.
4.) A psychiatrist recommendation isn't mean. Really? Do you view going to a mental health professional as insulting, because that's certainly insulting to multiple people on these forums.
Someone who projects, views everyone around them as "nasty" or "attacking," has such a rigid worldview as to deny all culpability for their problems and/or embrace the "being a victim" card is most certainly in need of a therapist.
If you choose to be unhappy, so be it. I, as a human being, just hope people do things to get them to healthy and happy places.
I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.0 -
OP. My first suggestion is going to be take a step back. Take a few breaths.
Now let's have a come to Jesus chat...You are taking peoples advice, twisting it and the way you are perceiving it is as "they are attacking me". No one here has attacked you. They've given you solid advice. You have refuted it time and time again - don't say you haven't, because every time someone suggests weighing your foods and being accurate, there's a reason you can't, or you trust the cooks at said restaurant, etc. Personally, I've worked in restaurants, yeah I'm not trusting what they tell me they put in something. It's always going to be underestimated. Especially not in cafeterias, not when they are making large quantities of food. They are not measuring out butter and oil that they cook things in. I promise you they aren't.
Others have given you suggestions like maybe start logging everything as 33% higher than you are now. They suggested you do that for 2-4 weeks. You didn't even respond to that. I thought that was a great idea since you are refusing to make and weigh food yourself.
Also no one has made assumptions about you. You have consistently given inconsistent answers. I didn't read ONE response where someone made assumptions. The way you are perceiving being attacked and everyone's assuming things about you, that honestly, is in your head. That's how you have perceived peoples honest answers to your predicament.
You were the FIRST one in the thread to say, "I know you all think I'm making a lot of excuses" which at that time no one had said, but you said it, because you know they are just that, excuses. It's simple, you are not ready to lose anymore weight. When you are ready you will do it.0 -
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I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
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She. - thank you.0 -
Wow. 9 pages of advice from people who've had success and all of it was wrong? I don't understand these kinds of posts. Did she really think there was going to be a magic formula?
I didn't say any of it was wrong. (((Sigh)))0 -
Oh brother...
Accountability = Nonextistent.
Open your diary. I know you already posted a two day snapshot of your eating habits with no weights.
Oh but the people she perceived were rude to her will be rude to her so she's not opening it.0 -
I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Sweetie, you're not the only one with these problems. You're not alone. You're in the same boat with at least 20% of the people I know. Let's work together to figure out what you CAN do to help your health. Other people solve the same issues you're dealing with. Let's help you solve yours, too.
Can you buy a fitbit?0 -
As someone who reads the forums a lot but doesn't post/comment very often - it always amazes me how the ability to use logic and reason completely goes out the window when someone is describing their personal situation. If OP were reading this entire thread, as I've done just now, and it didn't have anything to do with her, I wonder what her advice/recommendations would be for someone in the same situation? It just boggles my mind how readily people jump to the "you don't understand me and my situation" or "you are rude/aggressive/snarky" or "that won't work for me because of (insert arbitrary excuse)".
I certianly wouldn't be aggressive. I would be supportive and have been with others who needed help. Not everything works the same for everyone.0 -
OP. My first suggestion is going to be take a step back. Take a few breaths.
Now let's have a come to Jesus chat...You are taking peoples advice, twisting it and the way you are perceiving it is as "they are attacking me". No one here has attacked you. They've given you solid advice. You have refuted it time and time again - don't say you haven't, because every time someone suggests weighing your foods and being accurate, there's a reason you can't, or you trust the cooks at said restaurant, etc. Personally, I've worked in restaurants, yeah I'm not trusting what they tell me they put in something. It's always going to be underestimated. Especially not in cafeterias, not when they are making large quantities of food. They are not measuring out butter and oil that they cook things in. I promise you they aren't.
Others have given you suggestions like maybe start logging everything as 33% higher than you are now. They suggested you do that for 2-4 weeks. You didn't even respond to that. I thought that was a great idea since you are refusing to make and weigh food yourself.
Also no one has made assumptions about you. You have consistently given inconsistent answers. I didn't read ONE response where someone made assumptions. The way you are perceiving being attacked and everyone's assuming things about you, that honestly, is in your head. That's how you have perceived peoples honest answers to your predicament.
You were the FIRST one in the thread to say, "I know you all think I'm making a lot of excuses" which at that time no one had said, but you said it, because you know they are just that, excuses. It's simple, you are not ready to lose anymore weight. When you are ready you will do it.
I thought that was great...I've been a little busy trying to explain myself....and it definitely made sense. I've been trying to do this while multitasking so I coudln't address every person's answers.0 -
As someone who reads the forums a lot but doesn't post/comment very often - it always amazes me how the ability to use logic and reason completely goes out the window when someone is describing their personal situation. If OP were reading this entire thread, as I've done just now, and it didn't have anything to do with her, I wonder what her advice/recommendations would be for someone in the same situation? It just boggles my mind how readily people jump to the "you don't understand me and my situation" or "you are rude/aggressive/snarky" or "that won't work for me because of (insert arbitrary excuse)".
I certianly wouldn't be aggressive. I would be supportive and have been with others who needed help. Not everything works the same for everyone.
No one was aggressive - at all - I saw a bunch of people giving you net <<hugs>> and staring with sincere, kind words. you definitely turned this thread around when you started saying everyone was attacking you.0 -
Why is suggesting that someone see a psychiatrist/psychologist insulting your mental health? Is it insulting someone's physical health to suggest that they see a GP/cardiologist if they're having heart palpitations? If you're insinuating that needing to see a counselor is bad, then I submit to you that you're the one who's not very nice.I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Your last sentence is passive-aggressive. I am glad you are taking meds to help with your anxiety, but your behavior consistently indicates over and over again that you would benefit from behavioral modification therapy. Meds alone are not sufficient to get someone to a healthy place when they need help unlearning maladaptive behaviors and replacing them with healthy ones.
Instead of looking for what "the reason for a LOT of [your] problems" is, look for solutions.
You can get defensive about this too, but it won't change the underlying fact of the matter. When you're ready to make a change, you will. Until then, if you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.0 -
Okay, I really am done with this.
I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.
My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.
One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.
I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.
I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.
My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.
I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
I'm out. Think what you want to of me.
Well, if you want to lose weight, it is! At least we figured out why you can't lose :flowerforyou:
Yes, You could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying this in the first place: I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
If you don't put the time in to it, it won't work. PERIOD.
I don't think that's the entire answer, but thanks.
You didn't have to respond.
:sick: I gave you a better answer a few pages ago - you didn't like that one either..... I don't think you'll like anyone's response.
I think you should add psychiatrist to the list of doctors you need to see along with the Endo and GP.....
It's not that I don't like anyone's answer. All I am saying is I know that eating 1200 calories a day is NOT the answer for me and all sorts of assumptions are being made.
I really wish I hadn't started this thread.
And really...a psych..that's not nice.
Okay.
1.) You said you were leaving. Apparently not.
2.) No one, anywhere, recommended you do 1200.
3.) We don't have to make assumptions that your calorie counting is inaccurate if it is, in fact, inaccurate.
4.) A psychiatrist recommendation isn't mean. Really? Do you view going to a mental health professional as insulting, because that's certainly insulting to multiple people on these forums.
Someone who projects, views everyone around them as "nasty" or "attacking," has such a rigid worldview as to deny all culpability for their problems and/or embrace the "being a victim" card is most certainly in need of a therapist.
If you choose to be unhappy, so be it. I, as a human being, just hope people do things to get them to healthy and happy places.
I agree with him. The psych recommendation wasn't mean. You seem to have a lot on your plate, especially if you are caring for your disabled mother. That is stressful in and of itself. There is NOTHING wrong with seeing a psych. I see one, and you know it's really helped my weight loss. Half the battle is physical, the other half is emotional/mental. I knew I could get the weight off, but if I didn't get mental help I'd never keep it off.0 -
This is very entertaining. And very very sad.0
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I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Sweetie, you're not the only one with these problems. You're not alone. You're in the same boat with at least 20% of the people I know. Let's work together to figure out what you CAN do to help your health. Other people solve the same issues you're dealing with. Let's help you solve yours, too.
Can you buy a fitbit?
According to a lot of people in this thread I'm a big loser.
I never said any of this was wrong. I didn't get to address every suggestion. I simply said I didn't have time to weigh all my food. I didn't say I absolutely wasn't going to do that. I said it was a good idea.
While everyone else was jumping down my throat I was trying to answer those and didn't get to express what I thought was a good idea.
I have apps on my phone, I have a pedometer, I have all those things.
I haven't bought a fitbit because I think they're excessively priced.0 -
This is very entertaining. And very very sad.
I'm glad you received entertainment at my expense.0 -
Okay, so here is two days from my diary....
GOAL 1740 per day.
Tuesday
Breakfast
Aramark Cafeteria Scrambled Eggs ½ cup 120 Cals
Pillsbury White Chocolate Raspberry Chunk Scone 440
560
Coffee black.
Lunch
Kellogg’s Special K Deluxe Egg and Cheese Flatbread Sandwich 120 Cals
Red Plum 30 Cals
Fiber One Brownie 90
Cals
310
Dinner
Fazoli’s Chicken Parm 870 cals
2 breadsticks 300
TOTAL
Remaining 64
Wednesday
Breakfast
Aramark Cafeteria Scrambled Eggs ½ cup 120 Cals
Raspberry Pastry (yeah, I know, was going bad) 340
460
Coffee black.
Lunch
Food Lion Blueberry Bagel (per website) 270 cals
Smucker’s Peanut Butter 1.5 oz tub 240
510
Dinner
Cracker Barrel Dinner: 2 scrambled eggs, 1 slice Colby cheese, 2 slices sourdough bread, 1 serving hashbrown casserole, 1 pat butter, 1 grape jam.
791
Water unless coffee specified.
Snack
Costco Pineapple Spears..2 cups 148
217 remaining after 420 exercise cals.
I have no comment on what you are choosing to eat (see my comment about the 1200 calorie shake last night), but here's what's jumping out at me:
Cafeteria scrambled eggs - how do you know it's only 1/2 cup? Are they dense or fluffy? This is not an accurate logging at all. IME, 1/2 C of scrambled eggs would be more than 2 full eggs...that's definitely more than 120 calories without adding in any oil or fat for cooking and I can almost guarantee that some is used. Even places that serve "healthy" egg white only omelettes and eggs will cook them in butter or some type of fat. Say what you think is 1/2 C is actually 1/2 heaping cup which is equal to 10 T instead of 8. This automatically is 125% of your original calculation, so would be 150 calories instead of 120. Now, say they add just a bit of oil...1/2 t only (which is pretty much nothing). That's another 20 calories, making you now off by 50 calories on your one food item. Now, say that it takes 2 large eggs to make 1/2 C scrambled eggs. This means that it's 140 calories instead of 120. Do the math with the other scenarios, and you're now at 195 calories instead of 120 and that's with only 1/2 t oil used for cooking.
What's a raspberry pastry? What was the size? How much did it weigh? Did it come from a labelled package? This is where a food scale would be a great help, even if you have the package it came in. Say 1 serving is supposed to weigh 75 grams. You weigh it and it weighs 100 grams. Instead of 340 calories you've had 450 calories. Or, if you don't have the NI for that exact item and you pick what you think is a close approximation, there is absolutely no way to know if you are off by hundreds of calories or not. Knowing the weight will help (you can choose the 100 gram option instead of just saying 1 large pastry), but there's no way to really accurate if you are eating a fresh made food not made by you. Same for the bagel. Sure, the website says 1 bagel is 270 calories and 112 grams but is it really? Maybe the baker was generous and it weighs 150 grams. There's another 90 calories added to your day.
The cracker barrel? They don't post NI so anything you find is just going to be an estimate. I know they use butter/oil to make the scrambled eggs - have you noticed that they glisten? You could be off by a couple hundred calories at Cracker Barrel, easily, even if the 790 is accurate for what you are supposed to get. If the chef used a bit more oil for the eggs and they were extra generous with your serving of hashbrown casserole, there's calories you haven't accounted for.
Your pineapple spears? Well, depending on how you chunk them, you can fit more or less in a C than is accounted for. Maybe you actually had 3 cups worth? Who knows. Using a food scale eliminates this - if you weigh 100 grams, then you are having 100 grams.
This!!
I have learned a lot myself just from reading this post and the rest of these post. Even I think I am doing right, but this makes me ask myself some questions about if I really am eating the right amount.
I posted a question the other day to get feedback about my weight loss. The answer to mine was the same as yours. I obviously was not eating at a deficit. I too said what was on my mind and it sounded like I did not want the advice, but I quickly changed how I was wording my responses, because I appreciate EVERYONE's advice. Some people are more sensitive then others and may take written verbiage a lot differently then how it would really come out by mouth. I took everyone's advice from my post and I am using it as we speak. If I have this many people telling me the same thing, then who is right?! Me or them? I think weight loss and all that comes with it is new for anyone until you have gone through it. Take the advice and run with it. Give it a try and if it doesn't work than you know you need an actual nutritionist or dietician's advice. Good luck OP!
It's sounds like you're going to be successful. Good luck. :flowerforyou:0 -
Why is suggesting that someone see a psychiatrist/psychologist insulting your mental health? Is it insulting someone's physical health to suggest that they see a GP/cardiologist if they're having heart palpitations? If you're insinuating that needing to see a counselor is bad, then I submit to you that you're the one who's not very nice.I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Your last sentence is passive-aggressive. I am glad you are taking meds to help with your anxiety, but your behavior consistently indicates over and over again that you would benefit from behavioral modification therapy. Meds alone are not sufficient to get someone to a healthy place when they need help unlearning maladaptive behaviors and replacing them with healthy ones.
Instead of looking for what "the reason for a LOT of [your] problems" is, look for solutions.
You can get defensive about this too, but it won't change the underlying fact of the matter. When you're ready to make a change, you will. Until then, if you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.
Read my reply above! I am on anxiety meds so I have no problem with that....FYI.0 -
Okay, I really am done with this.
I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.
My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.
One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.
I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.
I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.
My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.
I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
I'm out. Think what you want to of me.
Well, if you want to lose weight, it is! At least we figured out why you can't lose :flowerforyou:
Yes, You could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying this in the first place: I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
If you don't put the time in to it, it won't work. PERIOD.
I don't think that's the entire answer, but thanks.
You didn't have to respond.
:sick: I gave you a better answer a few pages ago - you didn't like that one either..... I don't think you'll like anyone's response.
I think you should add psychiatrist to the list of doctors you need to see along with the Endo and GP.....
It's not that I don't like anyone's answer. All I am saying is I know that eating 1200 calories a day is NOT the answer for me and all sorts of assumptions are being made.
I really wish I hadn't started this thread.
And really...a psych..that's not nice.
Okay.
1.) You said you were leaving. Apparently not.
2.) No one, anywhere, recommended you do 1200.
3.) We don't have to make assumptions that your calorie counting is inaccurate if it is, in fact, inaccurate.
4.) A psychiatrist recommendation isn't mean. Really? Do you view going to a mental health professional as insulting, because that's certainly insulting to multiple people on these forums.
Someone who projects, views everyone around them as "nasty" or "attacking," has such a rigid worldview as to deny all culpability for their problems and/or embrace the "being a victim" card is most certainly in need of a therapist.
If you choose to be unhappy, so be it. I, as a human being, just hope people do things to get them to healthy and happy places.
I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Do you want us to feel sorry for you now? If you want sympathy/support because you are struggling with your current life situation, why not make a post that says, hey, I'm struggling and just can't get motivated to do what I need to do because of XYZ? There are all kinds of supportive people here. You posted a problem and people offered solutions. You know what, you did lose 50 pounds and that is awesome! Obviously you are not in the same frame of mind as you were when you lost the weight, or else you wouldn't be struggling like this. Look back at your journal entries from 2 years ago, what do they look like compared to now? Were you taking care of your mom then? Were you working like you do now? Something's changed for you and you aren't able to find the commitment you need. Accept it, find a solution and move on. If you aren't ready to do that, then accept that fact and own it.0 -
I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Sweetie, you're not the only one with these problems. You're not alone. You're in the same boat with at least 20% of the people I know. Let's work together to figure out what you CAN do to help your health. Other people solve the same issues you're dealing with. Let's help you solve yours, too.
Can you buy a fitbit?
According to a lot of people in this thread I'm a big loser.
I never said any of this was wrong. I didn't get to address every suggestion. I simply said I didn't have time to weigh all my food. I didn't say I absolutely wasn't going to do that. I said it was a good idea.
While everyone else was jumping down my throat I was trying to answer those and didn't get to express what I thought was a good idea.
I have apps on my phone, I have a pedometer, I have all those things.
I haven't bought a fitbit because I think they're excessively priced.
The bolded statements are all in your head. As others said, the psych recommendation wasn't an insult: it was a sincere recommendation.
Your mother might very well be part of why you have problems today. A therapist would do wonders for you. As would a doctor you work with regularly that's not an OB/GYN.
Until you work with a professional, there's really nothing else any of us can do. It's very difficult to want to help someone, online, who has been very caustic to all who've tried to help.
The rest is up to you.0 -
Oh brother...
Accountability = Nonextistent.
Open your diary. I know you already posted a two day snapshot of your eating habits with no weights.
Oh but the people she perceived were rude to her will be rude to her so she's not opening it.
Because of the snarky comments a few folks have made, I'm not going to open it.
I don't want one of the rudies to make fun of me when there's a jelly bean or something.
I had a health instructor once tell me I should eat two slices of pizza a year.0 -
As someone who reads the forums a lot but doesn't post/comment very often - it always amazes me how the ability to use logic and reason completely goes out the window when someone is describing their personal situation. If OP were reading this entire thread, as I've done just now, and it didn't have anything to do with her, I wonder what her advice/recommendations would be for someone in the same situation? It just boggles my mind how readily people jump to the "you don't understand me and my situation" or "you are rude/aggressive/snarky" or "that won't work for me because of (insert arbitrary excuse)".
I certianly wouldn't be aggressive. I would be supportive and have been with others who needed help. Not everything works the same for everyone.
I wanted to make sure my definition of aggressive was the same as yours:
ag·gres·sive adjective \ə-ˈgre-siv\
: ready and willing to fight, argue, etc. : feeling or showing aggression
: using forceful methods to succeed or to do something
The only person in this thread I've seen who is ready and willing to fight/argue/etc is you....
The second definition, I hope we can agree, is definitely not applicable here.
I'm sorry. I know it is stressful being a working adult with a disabled parent. My mother had Alzheimer's and a host of other problems before she passed away - my sister was her primary caregiver and I am thankful every single day that my sister was willing to make the sacrifices that I know she made in order to do that. I am sure you feel overwhelmed and out of control of your life. The suggestions made here by so many people who have success with their weight loss, who have struggled through similar challenges with stalls/plateaus/etc are such that will give you some additional control over this aspect of your life.0 -
Why is suggesting that someone see a psychiatrist/psychologist insulting your mental health? Is it insulting someone's physical health to suggest that they see a GP/cardiologist if they're having heart palpitations? If you're insinuating that needing to see a counselor is bad, then I submit to you that you're the one who's not very nice.I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Your last sentence is passive-aggressive. I am glad you are taking meds to help with your anxiety, but your behavior consistently indicates over and over again that you would benefit from behavioral modification therapy. Meds alone are not sufficient to get someone to a healthy place when they need help unlearning maladaptive behaviors and replacing them with healthy ones.
Instead of looking for what "the reason for a LOT of [your] problems" is, look for solutions.
You can get defensive about this too, but it won't change the underlying fact of the matter. When you're ready to make a change, you will. Until then, if you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.
Read my reply above! I am on anxiety meds so I have no problem with that....FYI.
Sorry....I think you are confused about what that med is for. Anxiety meds do not take away a lifetime worth of pain from people treating you badly.0 -
I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me.Okay, I really am done with this.
I have not shot down anyone's advice and I am sure that a food scale would help.
My snark was because people were being nasty and making (I thought) incorrect judgements about me as people have done my entire life.
One doctor, insistent that I was a diabetic only because I was overweight, put me on Metformin. Grossly incorrect with her diagnosis, I ended up sick for two years and hypoglycemic as a result. Again, a judgement about me that was wrong.
I am sorry if I seemed snarky, but I am immensely frustrated and the same old, "you're eating too much" is how I ended up here in the first place.
I was eating so little when I was in my last production I couldn't even fight off a virus.
My apologies to everyone who thought I was shunning their recs, because I'm not. I was merely trying to explain my situation.
I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
I'm out. Think what you want to of me.
Well, if you want to lose weight, it is! At least we figured out why you can't lose :flowerforyou:
Yes, You could have saved everyone a lot of time by just saying this in the first place: I'm very busy, very involved, and do not have the time to sit and measure out everything I consume. It's just not practical.
If you don't put the time in to it, it won't work. PERIOD.
I don't think that's the entire answer, but thanks.
You didn't have to respond.
:sick: I gave you a better answer a few pages ago - you didn't like that one either..... I don't think you'll like anyone's response.
I think you should add psychiatrist to the list of doctors you need to see along with the Endo and GP.....
It's not that I don't like anyone's answer. All I am saying is I know that eating 1200 calories a day is NOT the answer for me and all sorts of assumptions are being made.
I really wish I hadn't started this thread.
And really...a psych..that's not nice.
Okay.
1.) You said you were leaving. Apparently not.
2.) No one, anywhere, recommended you do 1200.
3.) We don't have to make assumptions that your calorie counting is inaccurate if it is, in fact, inaccurate.
4.) A psychiatrist recommendation isn't mean. Really? Do you view going to a mental health professional as insulting, because that's certainly insulting to multiple people on these forums.
Someone who projects, views everyone around them as "nasty" or "attacking," has such a rigid worldview as to deny all culpability for their problems and/or embrace the "being a victim" card is most certainly in need of a therapist.
If you choose to be unhappy, so be it. I, as a human being, just hope people do things to get them to healthy and happy places.
I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Do you want us to feel sorry for you now? If you want sympathy/support because you are struggling with your current life situation, why not make a post that says, hey, I'm struggling and just can't get motivated to do what I need to do because of XYZ? There are all kinds of supportive people here. You posted a problem and people offered solutions. You know what, you did lose 50 pounds and that is awesome! Obviously you are not in the same frame of mind as you were when you lost the weight, or else you wouldn't be struggling like this. Look back at your journal entries from 2 years ago, what do they look like compared to now? Were you taking care of your mom then? Were you working like you do now? Something's changed for you and you aren't able to find the commitment you need. Accept it, find a solution and move on. If you aren't ready to do that, then accept that fact and own it.
Nothing has changed. I've been caring for my mother since I was in college. My work is the same. Everything is the same...and that's part of the problem.0 -
Why is suggesting that someone see a psychiatrist/psychologist insulting your mental health? Is it insulting someone's physical health to suggest that they see a GP/cardiologist if they're having heart palpitations? If you're insinuating that needing to see a counselor is bad, then I submit to you that you're the one who's not very nice.I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Your last sentence is passive-aggressive. I am glad you are taking meds to help with your anxiety, but your behavior consistently indicates over and over again that you would benefit from behavioral modification therapy. Meds alone are not sufficient to get someone to a healthy place when they need help unlearning maladaptive behaviors and replacing them with healthy ones.
Instead of looking for what "the reason for a LOT of [your] problems" is, look for solutions.
You can get defensive about this too, but it won't change the underlying fact of the matter. When you're ready to make a change, you will. Until then, if you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.
Read my reply above! I am on anxiety meds so I have no problem with that....FYI.
Sorry....I think you are confused about what that med is for. Anxiety meds do not take away a lifetime worth of pain from people treating you badly.
Pretty sure I know why I'm on anxiety meds, thank you.0 -
I haven't bought a fitbit because I think they're excessively priced.
So the answer is no, you can't buy a FitBit.
Next question:
Can you change the way you log all of your food, so if the label says 100 calories, you put 133 in your log?0 -
I haven't bought a fitbit because I think they're excessively priced.
So the answer is no, you can't buy a FitBit.
Next question:
Can you change the way you log all of your food, so if the label says 100 calories, you put 133 in your log?
I think that's an excellent idea.0 -
I totally got that, as is evidenced by what I wrote. What does that have to do with the rest of what I wrote? You need a counselor. I don't often make prescriptive statements like that, but in your case it is glaringly obvious that you have a pervasive need to shift blame, a high-stress lifestyle, a lot of issues with projecting your fractured thought patterns onto others' words and actions, and unresolved problems with your mother, not to mention your anxiety. I feel pretty confident that I'm not overstating my case when I say you need therapy.
Why is suggesting that someone see a psychiatrist/psychologist insulting your mental health? Is it insulting someone's physical health to suggest that they see a GP/cardiologist if they're having heart palpitations? If you're insinuating that needing to see a counselor is bad, then I submit to you that you're the one who's not very nice.I won't deny I'm struggling with a lot of areas in my life.
It sounded to me like he was insulting my mental health. Psychs are fine and I take anxiety meds so I have no issue with that.
I don't think I would have lost 50 pounds if I didn't have drive and motivation.
My mother is a WHOLE other ball of wax none of you want to get into...and yes, she is the reason for a LOT of my problems.
I really am sorry I bothered all of you today.
Your last sentence is passive-aggressive. I am glad you are taking meds to help with your anxiety, but your behavior consistently indicates over and over again that you would benefit from behavioral modification therapy. Meds alone are not sufficient to get someone to a healthy place when they need help unlearning maladaptive behaviors and replacing them with healthy ones.
Instead of looking for what "the reason for a LOT of [your] problems" is, look for solutions.
You can get defensive about this too, but it won't change the underlying fact of the matter. When you're ready to make a change, you will. Until then, if you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.
Read my reply above! I am on anxiety meds so I have no problem with that....FYI.
But you're not receptive to this information. So I wish you well. And unlike your earlier protestations that were not followed through on, I will not be returning. Best of luck to you.0 -
Making an appointment with a dietician might help as well.
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