GARCINIA CAMBOGIA EXTRACT

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  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I have some cardboard over here and there has been no research showing that it doesn't effectively help you burn fat...as long as you do at least 30 minutes of cumulative activity a day.

    $19.95 or your money back if you get no results with my regimen in 60 days.
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    If the product has been around for ages then shouldn't more research be available by now?
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    I was almost going to buy a bottle actually... apparently Christina Aguilera uses it for quick weightloss.. interesting.

    Yeah, along with calorie deficit which is how she actually loses the weight.

    And a personal trainer kicking her butt at the gym...Just sayin
  • cattherien
    cattherien Posts: 341 Member
    If the product has been around for ages then shouldn't more research be available by now?

    Unfortunately, no. The reasons are complicated, but alot boils down to who's funding the research and who's conducting it. In the area of nutritional supplements, generally the companies manufacturing the items fund the research, but those tend to be small scale studies and limited in number. That fact and the huge, huge backlog of studies that the FDA has to conduct-- it's just a situation of alot of either potentially beneficial or potentially harmful substances aren't getting fully vetted.

    Edit: As an example, the JAMA article cited a double-blind study. Sounds good, but there were only 135 people in the study. That's just too small a sampling to get a really conclusive body of evidence. I took note of the fact that compliance with the dietary restrictions of the participants in the study was not monitored. Hard to know if someone's "cooking the books" on their diary and pill count. Not to say anyone did-- but the possibility exists and therefore skews the data.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    If the product has been around for ages then shouldn't more research be available by now?

    Cardboard has been around for a long long time!
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    If the product has been around for ages then shouldn't more research be available by now?

    Unfortunately, no. The reasons are complicated, but alot boils down to who's funding the research and who's conducting it. In the area of nutritional supplements, generally the companies manufacturing the items fund the research, but those tend to be small scale studies and limited in number. That fact and the huge, huge backlog of studies that the FDA has to conduct-- it's just a situation of alot of either potentially beneficial or potentially harmful substances aren't getting fully vetted.

    Edit: As an example, the JAMA article cited a double-blind study. Sounds good, but there were only 135 people in the study. That's just too small a sampling to get a really conclusive body of evidence. I took note of the fact that compliance with the dietary restrictions of the participants in the study was not monitored. Hard to know if someone's "cooking the books" on their diary and pill count. Not to say anyone did-- but the possibility exists and therefore skews the data.

    See that is my point! I know politics and bureaucracy plays a part in just about every aspect of society. However, the manufacturers of those type of products shouldn't be making claims that they cannot back up with science. It's one thing to add a vitamin and mineral supplement to a weight lose plan but it should be coming from a real doctor and not some fluffy advertisement and the Internet in general. I am a very literal person. If a company claims that their product is a “fat burner” then I expect them to prove it. A product that suppresses the appetite and increase energy is not the same as a "fat burner" product in my book. I know some people have issues with the FDA and that is their choice but they have still done far more good than harm in protecting society from harmful products.
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    If the product has been around for ages then shouldn't more research be available by now?

    Cardboard has been around for a long long time!

    Is your cardboard a "fat-burner" and creates a calorie deficiency?
  • xplosion80
    xplosion80 Posts: 51 Member
    I used it for two months and invented a miraculous method to lose money but not fat.
  • LoseYouself
    LoseYouself Posts: 249 Member
    Seriously? Why can't people accept that the only way to lose weight is to create a caloric deficit and commitment to changing? This is just another product people will waste their money on.

    Just put in hard work and you'll find the success you're looking for.
  • cattherien
    cattherien Posts: 341 Member
    Seriously? Why can't people accept that the only way to lose weight is to create a caloric deficit and commitment to changing? This is just another product people will waste their money on.

    Just put in hard work and you'll find the success you're looking for.

    Probably for the same reason that people can't accept that there might be supplements that can help the hard work to be more effective.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Seriously? Why can't people accept that the only way to lose weight is to create a caloric deficit and commitment to changing? This is just another product people will waste their money on.

    Just put in hard work and you'll find the success you're looking for.

    Probably for the same reason that people can't accept that there might be supplements that can help the hard work to be more effective.

    Oh I can. Show me the research and I'll believe it!
  • craftywitch_63
    craftywitch_63 Posts: 829 Member
    If the product has been around for ages then shouldn't more research be available by now?

    Unfortunately, no. The reasons are complicated, but alot boils down to who's funding the research and who's conducting it. In the area of nutritional supplements, generally the companies manufacturing the items fund the research, but those tend to be small scale studies and limited in number. That fact and the huge, huge backlog of studies that the FDA has to conduct-- it's just a situation of alot of either potentially beneficial or potentially harmful substances aren't getting fully vetted.

    Edit: As an example, the JAMA article cited a double-blind study. Sounds good, but there were only 135 people in the study. That's just too small a sampling to get a really conclusive body of evidence. I took note of the fact that compliance with the dietary restrictions of the participants in the study was not monitored. Hard to know if someone's "cooking the books" on their diary and pill count. Not to say anyone did-- but the possibility exists and therefore skews the data.

    See that is my point! I know politics and bureaucracy plays a part in just about every aspect of society. However, the manufacturers of those type of products shouldn't be making claims that they cannot back up with science. It's one thing to add a vitamin and mineral supplement to a weight lose plan but it should be coming from a real doctor and not some fluffy advertisement and the Internet in general. I am a very literal person. If a company claims that their product is a “fat burner” then I expect them to prove it. A product that suppresses the appetite and increase energy is not the same as a "fat burner" product in my book. I know some people have issues with the FDA and that is their choice but they have still done far more good than harm in protecting society from harmful products.

    Yes. Thalidomide. http://guides.main.library.emory.edu/content.php?pid=156723&sid=1327606
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    What is wrong with just eating healthier with substantially more protein in your diet. You want an appetite suppressant? Eat lean protein.

    Lean protein???

    What's wrong w/ not-lean protein?
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    What is wrong with just eating healthier with substantially more protein in your diet. You want an appetite suppressant? Eat lean protein.

    Lean protein???

    What's wrong w/ not-lean protein?

    You want appetite suppressant - eat the fattiest cut of meat you can get. Fat keeps you satisfied longer.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    What is wrong with just eating healthier with substantially more protein in your diet. You want an appetite suppressant? Eat lean protein.

    Lean protein???

    What's wrong w/ not-lean protein?

    You want appetite suppressant - eat the fattiest cut of meat you can get. Fat keeps you satisfied longer.

    My point exactly.

    The brainwashing from the 80s that fat makes you fat or is unhealthy was obviously very effective and had remarkable staying power. Many people seem to substitute "lean protein" for "protein" without even realizing it.
  • PinkNinjaLaura
    PinkNinjaLaura Posts: 3,202 Member
    I have some cardboard over here and there has been no research showing that it doesn't effectively help you burn fat...as long as you do at least 30 minutes of cumulative activity a day.

    $19.95 or your money back if you get no results with my regimen in 60 days.

    I'll buy 2 so I can lose twice as fast!
  • cattherien
    cattherien Posts: 341 Member
    You want appetite suppressant - eat the fattiest cut of meat you can get. Fat keeps you satisfied longer.

    I both agree and disagree. Or, maybe I should say, yes I agree under certain conditions.

    I agree that cuts of meat with fat on them, sausages, balogne, bacon, etc. are not the bad guy here. If you're eating fewer calories overall than you burn, then eating non-lean meats with a diet that is also balanced by a small to moderate amount of carbs that includes lots of fruits and veggies, plus you exercise at leat 3x a week -- then that fat on the meat is going to be converted to energy before it can be stored as fat.

    Simple carbs+sugars+no exercise = the bad guy.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    You want appetite suppressant - eat the fattiest cut of meat you can get. Fat keeps you satisfied longer.

    I both agree and disagree. Or, maybe I should say, yes I agree under certain conditions.

    I agree that cuts of meat with fat on them, sausages, balogne, bacon, etc. are not the bad guy here. If you're eating fewer calories overall than you burn, then eating non-lean meats with a diet that is also balanced by a small to moderate amount of carbs that includes lots of fruits and veggies, plus you exercise at leat 3x a week -- then that fat on the meat is going to be converted to energy before it can be stored as fat.

    Simple carbs+sugars+no exercise = the bad guy.

    Carbs and sugar aren't the bad guys either. Obesity/an unhealthy weight resulting from a calorie surplus over time is. Period. This can be reversed even while eating carbs (regardless of complexity) and while eating sugars. It can even be done w/out exercise (although that should be included for various other health benefits).
  • I have lost 22 lbs since February 1st using Garcinia Cambogia and MFP. The Garcinia curbs my appetite, and I feel great. It amazes me how many people say it doesn't work, yet they have no experience with it.
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    I have lost 22 lbs since February 1st using Garcinia Cambogia and MFP. The Garcinia curbs my appetite, and I feel great. It amazes me how many people say it doesn't work, yet they have no experience with it.
    What happens to your appetite when you stop taking it? Or do you plan to take it forever?