to all the real runners
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They are both runners. They're running. They're just different kind of runners. Fitness runner. Recreational runner. Jogger. Marathoner. Triathlete. Different, yet all runners. I feel no superiority to those who run inside all the time. Hell, maybe they're smarter. I get bit by dogs, run into ditches, cat called, and injured WAY more frequently. Of course, I can't seem to run a straight line on a treadmill, and I get bored to death. Even a mile on a treadmill and I'm ready to quit. In conclusion, I am rambling. Just be glad people are moving! We're all moving faster than those on the couch. I like the support I typically see in the running community for any kind of runner. It's great!
first off, i'm a triathlete, and i specifically tell people i'm not a runner. or a cyclist. or a swimmer.
Well , certainly then, my pardon. I might say you are all three of those things, but if that's what you prefer, then that's what you are I suppose. This whole thread has simply left me confused. I was unaware such hierarchy existed. Who is most badass? The triathlete? The marathoner? The iron man? I say yes.
there is a hierarchy, even amongst the distance athletes. many iron man triathletes say you're not a real iron man until you do Kona.
in the book "born to run" one runner interviewed is dismissive about the marathon, saying that you can barely warm up properly in the race.0 -
I think of runners as a group of inclusive, supportive people who do something they enjoy at every fitness level and persevering to better themselves. I get both feet off the ground while I sweat my butt off running my 12 minute mile on a treadmill. I am a runner. Quit being a douche bag.
i don't like being called names, especially when i haven't said anything where i specifically judge people. i've asked if other runners, specifically runners that use the treadmill minimally, judge others that mostly use a treadmill.
You may not have specifically called anyone names but you implied that anybody who runs on a treadmill is somehow beneath you. You've judged them and what they do because you feel like it's less worthy than what you do for some reason.
If you look up "runner" in the dictionary it's definitions is "One who runs".
Lighten up and stop judging, BTW I don't run on a treadmill or on the road...
i haven't implied anything. i'll admit the title was written that way to get some people in the thread, but "hey i have a question" is a little vague and has been over done, and "do people that run outside judge those that run inside" would've been long winded, and as a writer i have an issue with my title also being my subject.0 -
Who gives a ****, just run.
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They are both runners. They're running. They're just different kind of runners. Fitness runner. Recreational runner. Jogger. Marathoner. Triathlete. Different, yet all runners. I feel no superiority to those who run inside all the time. Hell, maybe they're smarter. I get bit by dogs, run into ditches, cat called, and injured WAY more frequently. Of course, I can't seem to run a straight line on a treadmill, and I get bored to death. Even a mile on a treadmill and I'm ready to quit. In conclusion, I am rambling. Just be glad people are moving! We're all moving faster than those on the couch. I like the support I typically see in the running community for any kind of runner. It's great!
first off, i'm a triathlete, and i specifically tell people i'm not a runner. or a cyclist. or a swimmer.
Well , certainly then, my pardon. I might say you are all three of those things, but if that's what you prefer, then that's what you are I suppose. This whole thread has simply left me confused. I was unaware such hierarchy existed. Who is most badass? The triathlete? The marathoner? The iron man? I say yes.
there is a hierarchy, even amongst the distance athletes. many iron man triathletes say you're not a real iron man until you do Kona.
in the book "born to run" one runner interviewed is dismissive about the marathon, saying that you can barely warm up properly in the race.
Well you learn something new everyday, yes?
You know who I think may be the most badass of all? People with running strollers. Man those things are a *****. Hate. them. I was so so glad when my son got too big and I was able to run loops with him along on his bike. And the double ones? I bow down to those folks. Seriously. 0 -
Who gives a ****, just run.
This sums it up quite nicely.
I lift consistently and I run consistently. I am a lifter and a runner. In the winter I train on the treadmill in the spring/summer/fall I train outside. I am doing half marathon training but not signed up for a half.
I feel like consistency is perhaps a differentiator. Not sure though.....still giving this some thought.
Interesting thread though....0 -
They are both runners. They're running. They're just different kind of runners. Fitness runner. Recreational runner. Jogger. Marathoner. Triathlete. Different, yet all runners. I feel no superiority to those who run inside all the time. Hell, maybe they're smarter. I get bit by dogs, run into ditches, cat called, and injured WAY more frequently. Of course, I can't seem to run a straight line on a treadmill, and I get bored to death. Even a mile on a treadmill and I'm ready to quit. In conclusion, I am rambling. Just be glad people are moving! We're all moving faster than those on the couch. I like the support I typically see in the running community for any kind of runner. It's great!
first off, i'm a triathlete, and i specifically tell people i'm not a runner. or a cyclist. or a swimmer.
Well , certainly then, my pardon. I might say you are all three of those things, but if that's what you prefer, then that's what you are I suppose. This whole thread has simply left me confused. I was unaware such hierarchy existed. Who is most badass? The triathlete? The marathoner? The iron man? I say yes.
there is a hierarchy, even amongst the distance athletes. many iron man triathletes say you're not a real iron man until you do Kona.
in the book "born to run" one runner interviewed is dismissive about the marathon, saying that you can barely warm up properly in the race.
Well you learn something new everyday, yes? You know who I think may be the most badass of all? People with running strollers. Man those things are a *****. Hate. them. I was so so glad when my son got too big and I was able to run loops with him along on his bike. And the double ones? I bow down to those folks. Seriously.
A friend of mine, RunnerElizabeth, runs half marathons with a stroller. She's kind of a badarse.0 -
I guess I was wrong about myself.
My bad.
I have 3 kids and they are terribly heavy when I try to run outside with them strapped to my back. Somedays in the summer time it gets to 115, I have only heard that it can be dangerous out there.
So I run on the treadmill.
I ran a couple races, but I guess that doesn't count either.
I toss in my earbuds, crank up the treadmill, go to my happy place while my kids play their games.
*not a runner*
but think you have made it clear that I don't want to be one if *they* look down on treadmill people as lower than them.0 -
do you ever find yourself in a conversation with someone who says they run, only to find out that it's only on the treadmill? do you immediately dismiss them as not being a real runner?
i'm not talking about jumping on the treadmill when the weather is too extreme to run outside, or for a warm up to cross/strength train. i mean the people that drive to the gym or go to their basement/garage/spare bedroom to only run on a treadmill 365 days a year.
No, but I'm not pompous.0 -
I guess I was wrong about myself.
My bad.
I have 3 kids and they are terribly heavy when I try to run outside with them strapped to my back. Somedays in the summer time it gets to 115, I have only heard that it can be dangerous out there.
So I run on the treadmill.
I ran a couple races, but I guess that doesn't count either.
I toss in my earbuds, crank up the treadmill, go to my happy place while my kids play their games.
*not a runner*
but think you have made it clear that I don't want to be one if *they* look down on treadmill people as lower than them.
Agreed.0 -
Who gives a ****, just run.
This ^^
I have a lot of respect for people who run on the treadmill, it's tough. When I'm on a trail, I am 3 miles in and the only way for me to get out is by running. Well, I guess I could walk, but that would take FOREVER, it's already slow enough when I run it. When running on the treadmill you can hop off and leave at any time. Easy peasy. It takes a lot of determination to stay on that thing.0 -
weird...0
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Ummmm wasn't it gone? :huh:0
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New thought:
running outside, personally, makes me a better runner.
Like one of the posts below me states: you can get off a treadmill any time...
Much too tempting! I'd rather run six miles into one direction, get tired and then be like.. crap, gotta get back
to that wine and cheese and new episode of GOT waiting for me at home.
= def. more challenging physically!0 -
HAHAHA @ the OP. Arrogant much? A runner is a runner is a runner. I run outside and on the tm. I just think it's funny (insert sarcasm) that you think you are better than others.0
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Is this a serious thread? If you run, you're a runner. Why would we try to exclude anyone with the label of what a "real" runner is? It seems very petty for a website that's supposed to be about support.0
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Well, this was an interesting read of a thread...& it did exactly what you wanted it to do OP, good job.0
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Fortunately, when I'm on the treadmill I can put in my headphones and fire up my ebook and just run in blissful ignorance of everyone who's apparently judging me for running on a treadmill.
But you know what?
1. I live in a place that's ice-and-snow covered and completely frigid for 2/3 of the year. Running through a foot of unshoveled snow or unsanded ice isn't a lot of fun for me.
2. I also live in a very urban area where running outdoors involves a lot of traffic, strangers, etc. unless I drive somewhere else.
3. At my latitude, there would be a lot of running in the dark for much of the year...and, again, lone woman in the city in the dark is something I avoid as much as possible.
4. I like to run with music...and having my headphones blaring isn't safe for outdoors either between the traffic and the people.
Add those 4 safety issues to the fact that I don't really enjoy running and just do it for my cardiovascular health...and I'm perfectly happy to just set my pace (and bonus! I know exactly how fast I'm going) and my incline (varied, but always at least a bit to compensate a bit for the treadmill-belt-propulsion) and just run while I zone out with my headphones, paying zero attention to the world around me.
It's way less excruciating than spending that time jogging at red lights, watching out for the nearby gang of teenage boys with bag-covered bottles, getting frostbite on my face in the -40 windchill and wiping out on snow-covered ice, and getting harassed by creeps on their balconies as I run by. But I'm happy to leave those experiences to "real" runners in exchange for a peaceful, safe workout.0 -
Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run ) indoors or out) then you're a runner.
agreed... on the marathon part. i get a lot of people asking me if i'm doing an iron man or a marathon, the holy grails of endurance sports.* when i tell them that i don't have immediate plans for doing either, they look at me funny. like, whats the point then?
*ultra-marathons are dumb.
In principal, I agree with you, however, I disagree with the last statement. Ultra marathons are not dumb. If they aren't for you, then that's cool. Personally, I'm just starting to do them and they are not dumb. They're hard and they require a crapload of training and endurance and if they are on trails, they are a whole different animal than the road. My next one is in two weeks and I'm hopeful to do well.
my apologizes. i added that last line for some comedic flair. one book that i credit getting me really into running was "born to run" by christopher mcdougall. i loved the whole zen aspect of running long distances. in a way, i called ultra-marathons dumb because they are soooooooo out of my comfort zone right now. maybe one day, but probably not.
I love that book!!!! I missed the comedy part of your comment...my apologies! Lol!:flowerforyou:0 -
Okay. We're all runners.
But if you have never EVER, EVER run outside....
You're not a REAL runner.
I ran after the cat once when he got out. Does that count? :bigsmile:0 -
I prefer running outside. However, after a very harsh winter, I did most of my running on a treadmill. I was thankful for the treadmill when I ran the Nashville Country Music Marathon (full) this Spring. Am I a runner or not?0
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I run on treadmill in bad weather, and outside whenever the weather cooperates - I live in Central Alberta - so weather is kind of unpredictable.
I consider myself a runner, and although I don't have aspirations of running a marathon, i will usually run a couple of 5-8k runs every summer just for the enjoyment of getting out while the weather is nice.
I have had 2 ACL reconstructions on both knees and have intentions of running until the knees will no longer allow.....
Treadmill or outside - should not be exclusive - everybody has different reasons for when / how they run - respect to all of them 0 -
What a silly thread0
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Yes, I am. I can't think of any perceptible benefit of further subdividing the subculture of runners by making it some kind of exclusive club only accessible by those who meet the ever-changing requirements of it's other members. Im sure every single one of us who considers ourselves to be runners would find that there are other runners who don't think we qualify. And for what cause? Exclusivity?
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If you run, you're a runner. I don't think theres any need to further divide...
I'm going with this. I live in a very hilly area and it's insanely hot and humid for a lot of the year. I don't think that people who run inside on a track or treadmill aren't runners, they just run in a different place than I do.0 -
Yes! Yes! Yes!
This! This! This!Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run (indoors or out) then you're a runner.0 -
Honestly, I'd never really given it much thought.
I know there are those who think you have to have run a marathon to be a "real runner" , personally I prefer a more inclusive definition - to me it's a state of mind. If you think of yourself as a runner and you actually run (indoors or out) then you're a runner.
I have a big crush on you for posting this :-)0 -
thanks ty. My holiday at work was sufficiently entertaining.Well, this was an interesting read of a thread...& it did exactly what you wanted it to do OP, good job.0 -
I'm 52 - I have run a half (under 2hrs). several 10Ks (pb 48min just before I turned 50) and 5ks. I live at the top of a 204M incline - anywhere I go means its uphill on the home stretch. For the last couple of years I have run on my treadmill and outside less and less often. But then I also live in BC. Since I have taken up lifting, I find doing intervals and tempo runs more rewarding than longer distances.
To each their own - at least we are moving.0 -
I have talked to a few people who have told me they run exclusively on the treadmill... I think they are "real" runners, I just feel bad for them a little bit because the fresh air and scenery is NOTHING like running indoors on a machine. They said.... your poor thing, your knees will hate you... I thought... you poor thing, you must be bored!0
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