Apple Cider Vinegar anyone?

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  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I take about a tablespoon once in a while mixed into my water-bottle with a squirt of MISO water flavoring. I know a lot of people add honey and my coworker swears it is what helped her drop 50 lbs (over a long period). Usually I take it because it helps calm stomach acid issues rather than for weight loss. I really don't think it has a significant effect aside from that of the placebo in helping weight loss. It does have other more medicinal system balancing purpose, though!

    That is why it was recommended for me. For acid reflux issues and it can also be helpful if you have high blood pressure. Some people believe in it and some don't so I want to give it a try to form my own opinion and see if it helps me. I'm not really doing it for weight loss although some people swear it helps with that too...

    If you have acid reflux I would not recommend treating it by drinking acid.

    Actually if I remember correctly, reflux comes from a lack of acid. Taking a spoonful of Apple Cider Vinegar takes care of the problem. I had to take it during my first pregnancy for reflux and it worked wonders. I had to chug a lot of water afterwards though.

    Oh does it? If that is true I'll admit I didn't know that. Okay then well if acid reflux is in fact caused by low stomach acid then it would make sense that drinking something acidic like vinegar or lemon juice would potentially alleviate the symptoms. That I believe because there is a plausible mechanistic explanation to explain causation of the perceived correlation. I'll have to look that up about acid reflux later, I had assumed it was due to acid rising up into the esophageal lining.

    You mean you didn't know something?!? :noway:

    LOL

    If I don't know something I will straight up admit it. I did not know that acid reflux is caused by low stomach acid. As I stated I will have to look into that later.

    There are things I know and things I don't know. Biochemistry is something I know, acetic acid is a compound I'm fairly familiar with...I had trouble seeing a mechanistic link between acetic acid and blood glucose levels. If acid reflux is caused by low stomach acid then the mechanistic link between drinking something acidic to alleviate low stomach acid is pretty apparent.

    That said if true I do wonder why the common treatments for acid reffux are antacids which basically neutrilize acid either via sodium bicarbonate or some sort of magnesium or calcium based salt.
  • peachinator
    peachinator Posts: 27 Member
    I take about a tablespoon once in a while mixed into my water-bottle with a squirt of MISO water flavoring. I know a lot of people add honey and my coworker swears it is what helped her drop 50 lbs (over a long period). Usually I take it because it helps calm stomach acid issues rather than for weight loss. I really don't think it has a significant effect aside from that of the placebo in helping weight loss. It does have other more medicinal system balancing purpose, though!

    That is why it was recommended for me. For acid reflux issues and it can also be helpful if you have high blood pressure. Some people believe in it and some don't so I want to give it a try to form my own opinion and see if it helps me. I'm not really doing it for weight loss although some people swear it helps with that too...

    If you have acid reflux I would not recommend treating it by drinking acid.

    Actually if I remember correctly, reflux comes from a lack of acid. Taking a spoonful of Apple Cider Vinegar takes care of the problem. I had to take it during my first pregnancy for reflux and it worked wonders. I had to chug a lot of water afterwards though.

    Oh does it? If that is true I'll admit I didn't know that. Okay then well if acid reflux is in fact caused by low stomach acid then it would make sense that drinking something acidic like vinegar or lemon juice would potentially alleviate the symptoms. That I believe because there is a plausible mechanistic explanation to explain causation of the perceived correlation. I'll have to look that up about acid reflux later, I had assumed it was due to acid rising up into the esophageal lining.

    Gastroesophageal reflux disease (or GERD) is often caused by a weak lower esophageal sphincter (that normally closes between the esophagus and stomach after a meal to prevent food and other stomach contents from traveling retrogradely from the stomach to the esophagus). So it's not from a lack of acid. The acid that your stomach produces (stomach pH is something ridiculously low like 4) thus goes into your esophagus and this is called "heartburn" (because it is near your heart in the esophagus).

    Not a human doctor, but a veterinarian, and I have learned enough about gastrointestinal physiology to understand the mechanism.
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  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I take about a tablespoon once in a while mixed into my water-bottle with a squirt of MISO water flavoring. I know a lot of people add honey and my coworker swears it is what helped her drop 50 lbs (over a long period). Usually I take it because it helps calm stomach acid issues rather than for weight loss. I really don't think it has a significant effect aside from that of the placebo in helping weight loss. It does have other more medicinal system balancing purpose, though!

    That is why it was recommended for me. For acid reflux issues and it can also be helpful if you have high blood pressure. Some people believe in it and some don't so I want to give it a try to form my own opinion and see if it helps me. I'm not really doing it for weight loss although some people swear it helps with that too...

    If you have acid reflux I would not recommend treating it by drinking acid.

    Actually if I remember correctly, reflux comes from a lack of acid. Taking a spoonful of Apple Cider Vinegar takes care of the problem. I had to take it during my first pregnancy for reflux and it worked wonders. I had to chug a lot of water afterwards though.

    Oh does it? If that is true I'll admit I didn't know that. Okay then well if acid reflux is in fact caused by low stomach acid then it would make sense that drinking something acidic like vinegar or lemon juice would potentially alleviate the symptoms. That I believe because there is a plausible mechanistic explanation to explain causation of the perceived correlation. I'll have to look that up about acid reflux later, I had assumed it was due to acid rising up into the esophageal lining.

    Gastroesophageal reflux disease (or GERD) is often caused by a weak lower esophageal sphincter (that normally closes between the esophagus and stomach after a meal to prevent food and other stomach contents from traveling retrogradely from the stomach to the esophagus). So it's not from a lack of acid. The acid that your stomach produces (stomach pH is something ridiculously low like 4) thus goes into your esophagus and this is called "heartburn" (because it is near your heart in the esophagus).

    Not a human doctor, but a veterinarian, and I have learned enough about gastrointestinal physiology to understand the mechanism.

    See to me that sounds more plausible. After all common GERD treatments are things that neutralize acid which would be an odd treatment if the cause was low acidity. Like I said though stomach acid and acid reflux is not something I know very much about so I'll have to look into it later in the literature because now I am curious.
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  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I took it for about a week when I got a bad cold and cough. What it seemed to do for me is knock down the phlegm and clear my throat.

    Then, I googled it because I thought it was stupid, and I wound up on the mayo clinics site that suggested it as a remedy for helping relieve the symptoms I was having. That was enough for me.

    I mix it with honey and warm water. I think it's about 3 tablespoons of ACV, 1 tablespoon of honey, and fill the glass with warm to hot water, mix well and drink.

    I'm not promoting it. Lol. I still think it's silly. But, it "seemed" like it kind of worked. At least it cleared the crap out of my throat.

    Check the mayo clinic site, the list a ton of benefits of drinking ACV. I'm skeptical, but whateves. I'm never one to buy into silly things like this, even if I do it a little.

    That's cool. I don't think being skeptical means you are against everything :-) just means you look into things before you approach them. I could believe that acetic acid would break down phlegm, it is a bit of an organic solvent. Acetic acid is really good at stripping paint off walls for example.
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  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I take about a tablespoon once in a while mixed into my water-bottle with a squirt of MISO water flavoring. I know a lot of people add honey and my coworker swears it is what helped her drop 50 lbs (over a long period). Usually I take it because it helps calm stomach acid issues rather than for weight loss. I really don't think it has a significant effect aside from that of the placebo in helping weight loss. It does have other more medicinal system balancing purpose, though!

    That is why it was recommended for me. For acid reflux issues and it can also be helpful if you have high blood pressure. Some people believe in it and some don't so I want to give it a try to form my own opinion and see if it helps me. I'm not really doing it for weight loss although some people swear it helps with that too...

    If you have acid reflux I would not recommend treating it by drinking acid.

    Actually if I remember correctly, reflux comes from a lack of acid. Taking a spoonful of Apple Cider Vinegar takes care of the problem. I had to take it during my first pregnancy for reflux and it worked wonders. I had to chug a lot of water afterwards though.

    Oh does it? If that is true I'll admit I didn't know that. Okay then well if acid reflux is in fact caused by low stomach acid then it would make sense that drinking something acidic like vinegar or lemon juice would potentially alleviate the symptoms. That I believe because there is a plausible mechanistic explanation to explain causation of the perceived correlation. I'll have to look that up about acid reflux later, I had assumed it was due to acid rising up into the esophageal lining.

    Gastroesophageal reflux disease (or GERD) is often caused by a weak lower esophageal sphincter (that normally closes between the esophagus and stomach after a meal to prevent food and other stomach contents from traveling retrogradely from the stomach to the esophagus). So it's not from a lack of acid. The acid that your stomach produces (stomach pH is something ridiculously low like 4) thus goes into your esophagus and this is called "heartburn" (because it is near your heart in the esophagus).

    Not a human doctor, but a veterinarian, and I have learned enough about gastrointestinal physiology to understand the mechanism.

    This is exactly it. I only know because my son had it as a baby until about 2 or 3 years old. It's fairly common in kids because the little flap doesn't grow fast enough and there's a gap where the acid travels up. Especially because babies can only lay down, it sucks *kitten* because you have to hold them upright for 3 years until the goddamn flap grows and keeps the acid here it belongs.

    lol nice. Although to be fair there can be multiple causes of the same symptoms so although this is a cause it does not rule out other potential causes having the same effect. I am NOT saying that low stomach acidity is a cause of this but only that this being true doesn't really rule it out as a possibility. GERD is more a collection of symptoms than something with one cause I think.
  • peachinator
    peachinator Posts: 27 Member
    Although I understand GI physiology, I am not arguing for or against apple cider vinegar for GERD; just that theoretically it doesn't make much sense to me. Personally I have always been a big proponent for Western medicine and thus think that proton pump inhibitors such as Omeprazole, which are fairly inexpensive and work fantastic, would do one better than apple cider vinegar to treat reflux.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I took it for about a week when I got a bad cold and cough. What it seemed to do for me is knock down the phlegm and clear my throat.

    Then, I googled it because I thought it was stupid, and I wound up on the mayo clinics site that suggested it as a remedy for helping relieve the symptoms I was having. That was enough for me.

    I mix it with honey and warm water. I think it's about 3 tablespoons of ACV, 1 tablespoon of honey, and fill the glass with warm to hot water, mix well and drink.

    I'm not promoting it. Lol. I still think it's silly. But, it "seemed" like it kind of worked. At least it cleared the crap out of my throat.

    Check the mayo clinic site, the list a ton of benefits of drinking ACV. I'm skeptical, but whateves. I'm never one to buy into silly things like this, even if I do it a little.

    That's cool. I don't think being skeptical means you are against everything :-) just means you look into things before you approach them. I could believe that acetic acid would break down phlegm, it is a bit of an organic solvent. Acetic acid is really good at stripping paint off walls for example.

    Is that what acetone is comprised of? Serious question.

    Nope they are quite different. Although acetone also an excellent solvent and very good at taking off paint, it is basically what nail polish remover is. You can drink diluted acetic acid (that is what vinegar is) wouldn't recommend drinking acetone.

    I think acetone is a metabolic biproduct of our metabolism but I forgot what pathway. Acetic acid is what bacteria piss out if you feed them alcohol :-)
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  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    Wow, forum threads like this reveal how many sheep there are in the nutrition world who will just do something just because someone told them it is a good idea without any sort of legitimate scientific explanation as to why . Always be skeptical about everything you hear, always ask questions, do your own research, don't take anything at face value, read scientific studies and always be willing to change what you believe based on new information.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Although I understand GI physiology, I am not arguing for or against apple cider vinegar for GERD; just that theoretically it doesn't make much sense to me. Personally I have always been a big proponent for Western medicine and thus think that proton pump inhibitors such as Omeprazole, which are fairly inexpensive and work fantastic, would do one better than apple cider vinegar to treat reflux.

    QFT and for emphasis about "what the harm is" in these sort of home-remedies.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I take about a tablespoon once in a while mixed into my water-bottle with a squirt of MISO water flavoring. I know a lot of people add honey and my coworker swears it is what helped her drop 50 lbs (over a long period). Usually I take it because it helps calm stomach acid issues rather than for weight loss. I really don't think it has a significant effect aside from that of the placebo in helping weight loss. It does have other more medicinal system balancing purpose, though!

    That is why it was recommended for me. For acid reflux issues and it can also be helpful if you have high blood pressure. Some people believe in it and some don't so I want to give it a try to form my own opinion and see if it helps me. I'm not really doing it for weight loss although some people swear it helps with that too...

    If you have acid reflux I would not recommend treating it by drinking acid.

    Actually if I remember correctly, reflux comes from a lack of acid. Taking a spoonful of Apple Cider Vinegar takes care of the problem. I had to take it during my first pregnancy for reflux and it worked wonders. I had to chug a lot of water afterwards though.

    Oh does it? If that is true I'll admit I didn't know that. Okay then well if acid reflux is in fact caused by low stomach acid then it would make sense that drinking something acidic like vinegar or lemon juice would potentially alleviate the symptoms. That I believe because there is a plausible mechanistic explanation to explain causation of the perceived correlation. I'll have to look that up about acid reflux later, I had assumed it was due to acid rising up into the esophageal lining.

    Gastroesophageal reflux disease (or GERD) is often caused by a weak lower esophageal sphincter (that normally closes between the esophagus and stomach after a meal to prevent food and other stomach contents from traveling retrogradely from the stomach to the esophagus). So it's not from a lack of acid. The acid that your stomach produces (stomach pH is something ridiculously low like 4) thus goes into your esophagus and this is called "heartburn" (because it is near your heart in the esophagus).

    Not a human doctor, but a veterinarian, and I have learned enough about gastrointestinal physiology to understand the mechanism.

    This is exactly it. I only know because my son had it as a baby until about 2 or 3 years old. It's fairly common in kids because the little flap doesn't grow fast enough and there's a gap where the acid travels up. Especially because babies can only lay down, it sucks *kitten* because you have to hold them upright for 3 years until the goddamn flap grows and keeps the acid here it belongs.

    lol nice. Although to be fair there can be multiple causes of the same symptoms so although this is a cause it does not rule out other potential causes having the same effect. I am NOT saying that low stomach acidity is a cause of this but only that this being true doesn't really rule it out as a possibility. GERD is more a collection of symptoms than something with one cause I think.

    I don't think there's any lack of acid at all. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's the full fierce acid leaking out where it shouldn't. It burns the crap out of people. My understanding is GERD is not low stomach acid, it's full acid going straight up the esophagus.

    No I understood you and I believe what you are saying is true. All I meant is both can be true at the same time, there can be multiple causes of the same symptoms.

    I am NOT saying low stomach acid IS a cause, someone brought that up...I'll admit I don't know and I haven't had the chance to look into it. Thats all. I am skeptical of it because it seems countintuitive where as your causation seems more plausible but right now I just don't know because all I know is what people have said to me and I haven't looked up the studies yet.
  • peachinator
    peachinator Posts: 27 Member
    I took it for about a week when I got a bad cold and cough. What it seemed to do for me is knock down the phlegm and clear my throat.

    Then, I googled it because I thought it was stupid, and I wound up on the mayo clinics site that suggested it as a remedy for helping relieve the symptoms I was having. That was enough for me.

    I mix it with honey and warm water. I think it's about 3 tablespoons of ACV, 1 tablespoon of honey, and fill the glass with warm to hot water, mix well and drink.

    I'm not promoting it. Lol. I still think it's silly. But, it "seemed" like it kind of worked. At least it cleared the crap out of my throat.

    Check the mayo clinic site, the list a ton of benefits of drinking ACV. I'm skeptical, but whateves. I'm never one to buy into silly things like this, even if I do it a little.

    That's cool. I don't think being skeptical means you are against everything :-) just means you look into things before you approach them. I could believe that acetic acid would break down phlegm, it is a bit of an organic solvent. Acetic acid is really good at stripping paint off walls for example.

    I agree with you that intuitively it doesn't make sense shoving some solvent down your throat, but remember commercial vinegar is at most 5% acetic acid.

    Acetone is a ketone and is produced in states of alcoholism or in states of low carb diets/a diabetic crisis ("ketoacidosis"). It is used commercially as a cleaner so I would assume it would feel like dumping some bleach down your throat except maybe not as corrosive. *shudder* lol
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    In general terms to demonstrate cause you have to have two things:

    1) Correlation. That when A happens B also happens.
    2) Mechanism. A model for why A causes B that is testable.
    3) Hypothesis driven testing of the mechanistic model.

    So in the low stomach acid example here is what I would look for.

    1) Are there any studies demonstrating correlation between drinking an acidic solution like vinegar and alleviation of symptoms of GERD?
    2) Is there a mechanistic explantion for this that could be tested to demonstrate cause. One poster suggested low stomach acid.
    3) If its low stomach acid has this been tested? You can come up with a couple hypothesis if it is. First if its because of low stomach acid and drinking acetic acid helps then you would assume drinking any acid would help. Citric acid for example. Has this been demonstrated? If the active ingredient of vinegar for the treatment of GERD is its acidity then is it still effective in treatment if you pH neutrilize it with a base like sodium bicarbonate?

    These are testable things. If they haven't been tested I'd be suspicious and if they have been tested but the results don't show what you would expect given the mechanism then its likely not the cause.

    Takes a while to look into this stuff.
  • Mgypsygirl
    Mgypsygirl Posts: 37 Member
    Make cole slaw! I would just respectfully add don't drink it plain or use on the skin plain it can burn your esophagus and cause contact burns on the skin. :)
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I took it for about a week when I got a bad cold and cough. What it seemed to do for me is knock down the phlegm and clear my throat.

    Then, I googled it because I thought it was stupid, and I wound up on the mayo clinics site that suggested it as a remedy for helping relieve the symptoms I was having. That was enough for me.

    I mix it with honey and warm water. I think it's about 3 tablespoons of ACV, 1 tablespoon of honey, and fill the glass with warm to hot water, mix well and drink.

    I'm not promoting it. Lol. I still think it's silly. But, it "seemed" like it kind of worked. At least it cleared the crap out of my throat.

    Check the mayo clinic site, the list a ton of benefits of drinking ACV. I'm skeptical, but whateves. I'm never one to buy into silly things like this, even if I do it a little.

    That's cool. I don't think being skeptical means you are against everything :-) just means you look into things before you approach them. I could believe that acetic acid would break down phlegm, it is a bit of an organic solvent. Acetic acid is really good at stripping paint off walls for example.

    I agree with you that intuitively it doesn't make sense shoving some solvent down your throat, but remember commercial vinegar is at most 5% acetic acid.

    Acetone is a ketone and is produced in states of alcoholism or in states of low carb diets/a diabetic crisis ("ketoacidosis"). It is used commercially as a cleaner so I would assume it would feel like dumping some bleach down your throat except maybe not as corrosive. *shudder* lol

    Ah yeah, actually acetone is one of the biproducts in ketogenic diets, I remember that now. Yeah I know that vinegar is just dilute acetic acid...I jokingly linked to some glacial acetic acid and suggested that that stuff must be really healthy but made sure to make clear I was joking just incase someone decided to go drink some glacial acetic acid.

    Oh boy...that reminds me of one encounter with the stuff I heard about. Had a labmate with a coworker that attempted to open a 4 liter glass bottle of glacial acetic acid by shoving the neck of the glass bottle into a door jam, closing the door to get a good grip on it then wrenching the bottle to try to open it. Managed to snap the top of the bottle off, gouge the sharded glass top through his forearm as the glacial acetic acid proceeded to gush out all over the newly opened wound.

    Needless to say the guy immediately passed out and dropped to the floor. Don't do that kids.
  • LillithM
    LillithM Posts: 17 Member
    This thread just made my night. She asked one simple question and everyone went off into some scientific debate. I dilute my 1 tbs of apple cider vinegar with 16 oz of water :) I makes me feel less bloated and happier so I take it every once in awhile simple as that :)
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,207 Member
    I took it for about a week when I got a bad cold and cough. What it seemed to do for me is knock down the phlegm and clear my throat.

    Then, I googled it because I thought it was stupid, and I wound up on the mayo clinics site that suggested it as a remedy for helping relieve the symptoms I was having. That was enough for me.

    I mix it with honey and warm water. I think it's about 3 tablespoons of ACV, 1 tablespoon of honey, and fill the glass with warm to hot water, mix well and drink.

    I'm not promoting it. Lol. I still think it's silly. But, it "seemed" like it kind of worked. At least it cleared the crap out of my throat.

    Check the mayo clinic site, the list a ton of benefits of drinking ACV. I'm skeptical, but whateves. I'm never one to buy into silly things like this, even if I do it a little.

    That's cool. I don't think being skeptical means you are against everything :-) just means you look into things before you approach them. I could believe that acetic acid would break down phlegm, it is a bit of an organic solvent. Acetic acid is really good at stripping paint off walls for example.

    I agree with you that intuitively it doesn't make sense shoving some solvent down your throat, but remember commercial vinegar is at most 5% acetic acid.

    Acetone is a ketone and is produced in states of alcoholism or in states of low carb diets/a diabetic crisis ("ketoacidosis"). It is used commercially as a cleaner so I would assume it would feel like dumping some bleach down your throat except maybe not as corrosive. *shudder* lol

    Ah yeah, actually acetone is one of the biproducts in ketogenic diets, I remember that now. Yeah I know that vinegar is just dilute acetic acid...I jokingly linked to some glacial acetic acid and suggested that that stuff must be really healthy but made sure to make clear I was joking just incase someone decided to go drink some glacial acetic acid.

    Oh boy...that reminds me of one encounter with the stuff I heard about. Had a labmate with a coworker that attempted to open a 4 liter glass bottle of glacial acetic acid by shoving the neck of the glass bottle into a door jam, closing the door to get a good grip on it then wrenching the bottle to try to open it. Managed to snap the top of the bottle off, gouge the sharded glass top through his forearm as the glacial acetic acid proceeded to gush out all over the newly opened wound.

    Needless to say the guy immediately passed out and dropped to the floor. Don't do that kids.

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  • rollng_thundr
    rollng_thundr Posts: 634 Member
    *COPY & PASTE*

    Anthony Komaroff, MD, Internal Medicine,

    If you believe the stories written about apple cider vinegar, it is a miracle cure for just about anything that ails you, from curbing the appetite to detoxifying the body, boosting the immune system, treating arthritis, and improving circulation. That's a tall order for a brew made from fermented apples. But there's no evidence to back up most of these claims. So far, the only decent studies in humans suggest that daily doses of apple cider vinegar may help people with type 2 diabetes control their blood sugar.

    Acetic acid is the substance that gives vinegar its distinctive smell and sour taste. A synthetic cousin of acetic acid, called ethylenediamine-tetraacetic acid (EDTA), attracts some dissolved metals. It is used in cases of lead, mercury, or iron poisoning to pull these metals out of the bloodstream. A dubious practice called chelation therapy involves repeated administration of EDTA. Chelation therapy is hyped as a way to clean out the arteries by dissolving cholesterol-filled plaque. This is based on wishful thinking, not science.

    Apple cider vinegar is a terrific ingredient in foods, sauces, and dressings. It isn't medicine. Taking too much can lower blood potassium levels and may not be good for your bones. If you choose to take a tablespoon or so a day, rinse out your mouth afterward—straight apple cider vinegar can erode the enamel on your teeth.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    This thread just made my night. She asked one simple question and everyone went off into some scientific debate. I dilute my 1 tbs of apple cider vinegar with 16 oz of water :) I makes me feel less bloated and happier so I take it every once in awhile simple as that :)

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  • NJGamerChick
    NJGamerChick Posts: 467 Member
    1. As someone who has suffered from GERD, it is not a lack of acid or weak acid in the body. The gastroesophageal seal does not properly work so acid escapes into the esophagus. Most people are lucky to only have heartburn. I have woken up choking on my own stomach acid. The treatment is a proton pump inhibitor to lessen the amount of stomach acid produced. Drinking any acid will just add to the stomach acid already present, thereby making the situation worse and adding to the choking wake up call. From personal experience, it is one of the worst experiences in my life, competing with a slip I'm still recovering from 6 years later.

    2. Yogurt would work better to calm down acid reflux.

    3. This thread entertains me.

    4. I like vinegar on my food, especially on tomatoes, on cooked dark leafy greens, and in some soups instead of salt. It's also tasty sprinkled on steak and chicken, but not so much on fish. Lemon tastes better there. :D
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    *COPY & PASTE*

    Anthony Komaroff, MD, Internal Medicine,

    If you believe the stories written about apple cider vinegar, it is a miracle cure for just about anything that ails you, from curbing the appetite to detoxifying the body, boosting the immune system, treating arthritis, and improving circulation. That's a tall order for a brew made from fermented apples. But there's no evidence to back up most of these claims. So far, the only decent studies in humans suggest that daily doses of apple cider vinegar may help people with type 2 diabetes control their blood sugar.

    Acetic acid is the substance that gives vinegar its distinctive smell and sour taste. A synthetic cousin of acetic acid, called ethylenediamine-tetraacetic acid (EDTA), attracts some dissolved metals. It is used in cases of lead, mercury, or iron poisoning to pull these metals out of the bloodstream. A dubious practice called chelation therapy involves repeated administration of EDTA. Chelation therapy is hyped as a way to clean out the arteries by dissolving cholesterol-filled plaque. This is based on wishful thinking, not science.

    Apple cider vinegar is a terrific ingredient in foods, sauces, and dressings. It isn't medicine. Taking too much can lower blood potassium levels and may not be good for your bones. If you choose to take a tablespoon or so a day, rinse out your mouth afterward—straight apple cider vinegar can erode the enamel on your teeth.

    Wooo really? I would think EDTA would be pretty dangerous. Yeah its a metal chelator, and a damn good one...it will strip metals out of most anything including iron out of hemoglobin, magnesium out of enzymes that require it to function. I could see its use in accute metal poisoning where the person is going to die without treatment but I wouldn't think it would be used casually. I certainly wouldn't ingest EDTA.

    In the lab we use EDTA to halt the activity of metal dependant enzymes in their tracks to stop a reaction to see what the products are at that timepoint. A lot of enzymes are metal dependant and a lot of them are essential to you remaining alive.
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    All you vinegar haters calm down. Vinegar (as a beverage, not in a sauce, dressing etc) has an awful taste and it is common knowledge that when something is unpleasant, it must be good for you AND burn calories. So, yes of course it works. It feels unnatural, you are making a sacrifice to consume it, so it must be working :)
  • renegadegeek
    renegadegeek Posts: 24 Member
    For those that aren't aware of vinegar's various uses, medical or otherwise, and would like to see some of the science:
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531649_1

    It has an antiglycemic effect, has been shown to affect satiety and caloric intake, may positively affect blood pressure and may reduce cancer risk, among other things. The type of vinegar can make a difference, as various vinegars contain various compounds. To quote, "Other constituents of vinegar include vitamins, mineral salts, amino acids, polyphenolic compounds (eg, galic acid, catechin, caffeic acid, ferulic acid), and nonvolatile organic acids (eg, tartaric, citric, malic, lactic)."

    Anyway, back to the OP's questions, I don't have trouble drinking it straight, when I take it, but I do drink it warm, mixed it 1:1 with water and bit of molasses when I think that'll be too much on my stomach.

    Best wishes!
  • earthboundmisfit
    earthboundmisfit Posts: 192 Member
    If you think ACV helps you, it is available in capsules or tablets, that would make it easier to swallow. But if you drink it straight you might want to rinse your mouth with baking soda dissolved in water, to neutralize the acids on your teeth.
  • cindyb1984
    cindyb1984 Posts: 203 Member
    This thread just made my night. She asked one simple question and everyone went off into some scientific debate. I dilute my 1 tbs of apple cider vinegar with 16 oz of water :) I makes me feel less bloated and happier so I take it every once in awhile simple as that :)

    Thanks :smile:
    This was my point exactly.
    If you don't take ACV and can't answer my question, then move on.
    I took it this morning with a big glass of lemon water...went down much easier.
    Thanks to everyone for their help!!!! :drinker:
  • CrossFitFit4Life
    CrossFitFit4Life Posts: 3 Member
    I take a tablespoon of it in a glass of water when I wake up, I don't want to add any calories as I don't think about how it taste, just health benefit. My mother has been doing this for years and I just started back up again.
  • mygrl4meee
    mygrl4meee Posts: 943 Member
    My husband uses it for kidney stones. Hasn't had them since using it.