My Name is Kelcie and I'm a Sugar Addict
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So your "addiction" to sugar is primarily candy, cookies, cakes and the like, right? So if I put a big bowl of cantaloupe or pineapple in front of you, does that make you start getting fidgety and have to have it? How about Mango's will that also throw all of you "sugar addicts" into a fit of HAVE TO HAVE IT
God, I thought I was all alone here. I hate that I started this crap. :sad:0 -
I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.
Don't be rude.
Oh so they abstain from all food? They abstain from sugar in all forms? Hardly evidence of "sugar addiction"0 -
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I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
Speak for yourself...didn't offend me in the least bit.0 -
Good for you ...... congrats on the weight loss ...... and feeling better !
Some of us can't have sugar, it's as simple as that ...... even a little bit triggers something awful .......
Do what works for you :drinker:0 -
I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
THIS
I am happy you are getting healthy, but sugar addiction is a mental/emotional thing and attatchment to food that is not the comparibly the same as a susbtance addiction.
Yes u get headaches and feel cranky and "withdraw" but as the above poster mentioed sugar is not "addictive" enough to people to trade their health, safety, and risk their lives and the lives of their family over, which is what addicts to do to get their substance of choice.
I have heard of people robbing stores for drug money, but not cupcake money, so please put into persepective what a "sugar addiction" is, it is more a lack of will power than a full on physical addiction.
again with the extremes. i havent heard of anyone robbing stores for cig money either, yet nicotine is still regarded as one of the most addictive substances out there0 -
I can tell you that a sugar addiction is a real thing. I've suffered with Binge Eating Disorder for most of my life. It is insane how similar my brain works to someone who is addicted to something like alcohol or drugs. It's not something you can just turn off or control easily. It's especially hard because people have to eat daily, so there are multiple times a day that we are forced to face the addiction (versus alcohol/drugs where these aren't essential as food is). I don't think people really understand it unless they also go through it.0
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I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
I'm offended you think Alcohol and classified "drugs" are the only things people can be addicted to. Maybe if there was a 12 step program available to those of us who have this "addiction" you would understand more. By definition sugar is addicting. This is a support post. I recommend you SUPPORT, in-spite of your personal opinions.
It doesn't annoy me that your getting sober from the sugar. I wish I could!
Good for you Kelcie for leaving the sugar behind you. I know your struggle. I got to sleep thinking about sugar and wake up thinking about sugar. I hope one day I can turn down a brownie - or sweet thing really.0 -
So your "addiction" to sugar is primarily candy, cookies, cakes and the like, right? So if I put a big bowl of cantaloupe or pineapple in front of you, does that make you start getting fidgety and have to have it? How about Mango's will that also throw all of you "sugar addicts" into a fit of HAVE TO HAVE IT
God, I thought I was all alone here. I hate that I started this crap. :sad:
Lol, but you said earlier, you KNEW what kind of responses you were going to invoke, yet you started anyway. Doesn't matter, had it not been you, it would have been someone else. These kinds of threads always blow up. Or wait, any kind of thread.
I have no opinion.
Great job, OP. I suggest that if possible, once you are more comfortable, you slowly introduce it back into your diet to learn control and moderation :flowerforyou:0 -
You know what I love? The really "helpfull, supportive" people who are just running the word "sober" with the express intention to poke. See, that's sad. What I did was tell this misguided girl what she said doesn't apply, and I also admitted that she was probably being funny and tongue in cheek when she wrote it. I could see that.
But the rest of you are just getting on the dogpile. I'm not looking for pats on the back. I'm just trying to teach.
By the way, alcohol is a drug and I don't drink either. Just cuz I didn't abuse alcohol, doesn't mean I will drink it. I stay away from it all because that's my choice. And I quit smoking too. I'm not going to get into a peeing contest about what coffee and cigarettes because that's just pushing the envelope for the sake of pushing it. Like I'm doing now....ha!
Some of you are just being cheese-heads. Is that name calling.....cheese-head? I think it's funny. :laugh:
i appreciate your efforts to try and teach, thats what i am trying to do too. unfortunately we are trying to teach 2 opposite standpoints on sugar addiciton.
good for you for staying away from alcohol and cig's (and i truly mean that), it can be tough as hell, especially when trying to lose weight
and i most certainly am not a cheese-head... i hate the packers
Haha, good one. but yeah, good points. I forgot where I was when I replied to Kelcie.
Lesson learned.0 -
I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.
Don't be rude.
Did you miss my apology to her? Keep up...
You trivialize an ENTIRE group of people who legitimately struggle with food addiction, and you say "Oh, sorry" and go back to being rude. Keep working the steps. You'll get there.0 -
I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.
Don't be rude.
Oh so they abstain from all food? They abstain from sugar in all forms? Hardly evidence of "sugar addiction"
thats why its OVEREATERS anonymous not SUGAR anonymous, sugar is NOT the culprit. Self control is.
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I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
I'm offended you think Alcohol and classified "drugs" are the only things people can be addicted to. Maybe if there was a 12 step program available to those of us who have this "addiction" you would understand more. By definition sugar is addicting. This is a support post. I recommend you SUPPORT, in-spite of your personal opinions.
It doesn't annoy me that your getting sober from the sugar. I wish I could!
Good for you Kelcie for leaving the sugar behind you. I know your struggle. I got to sleep thinking about sugar and wake up thinking about sugar. I hope one day I can turn down a brownie - or sweet thing really.
Overeaters Anonymous is the 12-step program for food addicts and Compulsive Overeaters. And you're right, it's sad when people can't see an inch outside of their own problems to see someone else's. It won't take any validity away from one addiction to acknowledge that there are others.0 -
For the record, I'm speaking of refined sugars. The sweet, white, crystallized stuff that comes in a bag at the store.
EDIT: Before someone jumps all over my case, let me include all of these too.
Other Names for Sugar
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by Skinny Ms.
50 Names for Sugar
Manufacturers often attempt to disguise sugar by simply adding a sugar by another name. Below are other names of refined sugar to look for when reading ingredient labels.
Barley malt
Beet sugar
Brown sugar
Buttered syrup
Cane juice crystals
Cane sugar
Caramel
Corn syrup
Corn syrup solids
Confectioners sugar
Carob syrup
Castor sugar
Demerara sugar
Dextran
Dextrose
Diastatic malt
Diatase
Ethyl maltol
Fructose
Fruit juice
Fruit juice concentrate
Galactose
Glucose
Glucose solids
Golden sugar
Golden syrup
Grape sugar
High Fructose Corn Syrup
Icing sugar
Invert sugar
Lactose
Maltodextrin
Maltose
Malt syrup
Muscovado sugar
Panocha
Raw sugar
Rice syrup
Sorbitol
Sucrose
White Sugar
Treacle
Turbinado sugar
Yellow sugar
(List found at http://skinnyms.com/50-names-for-sugar/#pasTPPvW8o89GqAf.99)0 -
"Sugar addiction" is not currently recognized by the current DSM used is psychology/psychiatry. The DSM-V actually makes specific mention of these "behavioral addictions" and explains why they are not diagnoses (they give an example of "shopping addiction"). They cite lack of evidence (peer-reviewed studies) to even be able to write a criteria and course for such a thing.
I happen to believe that "sugar addiction" is more of an impulse-control/behavioral problem. And yes, this comes from a person who really has struggled with significant over-eating.
None of that invalidates your connection to sugar, but it does provide a frame of reference.
I'm happy that you found the motivation you needed to gain control over your eating!0 -
For the record, I'm speaking of refined sugars. The sweet, white, crystallized stuff that comes in a bag at the store.
So sucrose? The exact same sugar in apples and eggs?0 -
I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.
Don't be rude.
Did you miss my apology to her? Keep up...
You trivialize an ENTIRE group of people who legitimately struggle with food addiction, and you say "Oh, sorry" and go back to being rude. Keep working the steps. You'll get there.
dont tell me what to do0 -
In case anyone wants to discuss actual reality instead of personal biases.
http://www.recoveryranch.com/articles/addiction-research/food-can-be-as-addictive-as-drugs-study-finds/
Addiction and the Brain
In looking at the scans of the participants’ brains, the researchers found that among the women who showed at least three signs of food addition, according to the Yale Food Addiction Scale, brain activity in the regions that are related to craving and pleasure was higher than in women who had one or no signs of food addiction. The parts of the brain showing activity while looking at pictures of the milkshake include the anterior cingulate cortex, the amygdala, and the medial orbitofrontal cortex. In similar studies with drug addicts, these same parts of the brain show activity when participants are shown drugs.
The women in the study who showed signs of being food addicts, also showed similar brain activity to drug addicts when they actually got to eat the ice cream. While eating, the lateral orbitofrontal cortex had decreased activity in these women. This same happens with drug addicts while they are using and indicates lessened self-control.
Distinguishing Characteristics
While many of the similarities between food addicts and drug addicts were striking, there were also important differences highlighted by the Yale study. Unlike drug addicts, the food-addicted women did not lose the pleasurable sensation of viewing the shake, when they finally got to eat it. Their pleasure centers remained on high alert throughout.
In contrast, drug addicts continue to crave drugs over time, but their pleasure in using decreases. This creates a tolerance, which leads to the cycle of using drugs over and over again trying to chase a high. It also leads to abusers using more and more of a substance to get a high and one of the great dangers that puts addicts at risk of overdosing. It seems that food addicts do not lose the sense of pleasure, but the researchers suggest that this might be a trait seen only in serious addicts. The women in the study were not severely addicted to food.0 -
@ Acg67 -- What are your intentions by nitpicking me?0
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I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.
Don't be rude.
Oh so they abstain from all food? They abstain from sugar in all forms? Hardly evidence of "sugar addiction"
Agree. And compulsive overeating does not equal sugar 'addiction'. However, compulsive overeating is a real thing, IMO.0 -
I never ever thought I'd get "sober". Second, I realize due to my addictive personality that I really just cannot have sugar at all. I'm scared of it, to be totally honest. Finally, 14 pounds looks really good not being on me.
Kelcie, this is nothing personal towards you, I'm just assuming you're being cute. But, PLEASE, don't use addiction lingo and words like "sober" to describe your choices of eating candy and sugary stuff. It actually annoys the rest of us, ie, ME, with actual addictions who do 12-step work to recover on a daily basis.
When you have traded sexual favors for cupcakes and candy let me know. Otherwise, please stop.
And I'm sorry if I offended you. That's also part of my recovery work.
This makes no sense. Have you heard of Overeaters Anonymous? It's a 12-step program based on the AA steps, traditions, and tools that helps people recover from food addictions (sugar and white flour being the most common ones amongst members) and become sober from those addictions.
Don't be rude.
Oh so they abstain from all food? They abstain from sugar in all forms? Hardly evidence of "sugar addiction"
thats why its OVEREATERS anonymous not SUGAR anonymous, sugar is NOT the culprit. Self control is.
Yep...
But most people are able to drink alcohol without spiraling out of control and their lives becoming unmanageable, so what's this AA nonsense all about?? I mean, really people. Empathy and acceptance are free.0 -
@ Acg67 -- What are your intentions by nitpicking me?
What are your intentions by lying? If you're addicted to sucrose and only sucrose, did you eliminate all sources of sucrose?0 -
For the record, I'm speaking of refined sugars. The sweet, white, crystallized stuff that comes in a bag at the store.
EDIT: Before someone jumps all over my case, let me include all of these too.
Other Names for Sugar
405
by Skinny Ms.
50 Names for Sugar
Manufacturers often attempt to disguise sugar by simply adding a sugar by another name. Below are other names of refined sugar to look for when reading ingredient labels.
Barley malt
Beet sugar
Brown sugar
Buttered syrup
Cane juice crystals
Cane sugar
Caramel
Corn syrup
Corn syrup solids
Confectioners sugar
Carob syrup
Castor sugar
Demerara sugar
Dextran
Dextrose
Diastatic malt
Diatase
Ethyl maltol
Fructose
Fruit juice
Fruit juice concentrate
Galactose
Glucose
Glucose solids
Golden sugar
Golden syrup
Grape sugar
High Fructose Corn Syrup
Icing sugar
Invert sugar
Lactose
Maltodextrin
Maltose
Malt syrup
Muscovado sugar
Panocha
Raw sugar
Rice syrup
Sorbitol
Sucrose
White Sugar
Treacle
Turbinado sugar
Yellow sugar
(List found at http://skinnyms.com/50-names-for-sugar/#pasTPPvW8o89GqAf.99)
I like Demarara sugar.0 -
That edit was too little too late... hahaha0
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@ Acg67 -- What are your intentions by nitpicking me?
Because you do not understand the make up of the foods you are eating, and are attempting to demonize specific foods. It's wrong.0 -
That edit was too little too late... hahaha
Which one....?0 -
In case anyone wants to discuss actual reality instead of personal biases.
http://www.recoveryranch.com/articles/addiction-research/food-can-be-as-addictive-as-drugs-study-finds/
Addiction and the Brain
In looking at the scans of the participants’ brains, the researchers found that among the women who showed at least three signs of food addition, according to the Yale Food Addiction Scale, brain activity in the regions that are related to craving and pleasure was higher than in women who had one or no signs of food addiction. The parts of the brain showing activity while looking at pictures of the milkshake include the anterior cingulate cortex, the amygdala, and the medial orbitofrontal cortex. In similar studies with drug addicts, these same parts of the brain show activity when participants are shown drugs.
The women in the study who showed signs of being food addicts, also showed similar brain activity to drug addicts when they actually got to eat the ice cream. While eating, the lateral orbitofrontal cortex had decreased activity in these women. This same happens with drug addicts while they are using and indicates lessened self-control.
Distinguishing Characteristics
While many of the similarities between food addicts and drug addicts were striking, there were also important differences highlighted by the Yale study. Unlike drug addicts, the food-addicted women did not lose the pleasurable sensation of viewing the shake, when they finally got to eat it. Their pleasure centers remained on high alert throughout.
In contrast, drug addicts continue to crave drugs over time, but their pleasure in using decreases. This creates a tolerance, which leads to the cycle of using drugs over and over again trying to chase a high. It also leads to abusers using more and more of a substance to get a high and one of the great dangers that puts addicts at risk of overdosing. It seems that food addicts do not lose the sense of pleasure, but the researchers suggest that this might be a trait seen only in serious addicts. The women in the study were not severely addicted to food.
The psychological community has known for quite some time that the "pleasure center" is activated by eating and the same circuits that light up for those with substance addictions are involved.
The important thing is to study the matter fully, to determine if we can gather enough evidence to include it as a diagnosis and form treatment plans over it.
All of this semantic stuff is background noise. The important thing is to increase our understanding so that we can help those who are in need.0 -
So your "addiction" to sugar is primarily candy, cookies, cakes and the like, right? So if I put a big bowl of cantaloupe or pineapple in front of you, does that make you start getting fidgety and have to have it? How about Mango's will that also throw all of you "sugar addicts" into a fit of HAVE TO HAVE IT
WILL GLADLY take the pineapple and mangoes over here!!!!!!!
Well ok, me too, maybe, but that over Oreo's, hmmmmm, probably not. I value your preference to fruit.
My point was that if it was truly a sugar addiction, it wouldn't matter where you get your sugar, you would have to have it in any form. I also struggle very much with not overeating the sweets that I so enjoy. I do know that some people need OA etc., and would never discourage or disparage what they are going through, but sugar is not the culprit, it really comes down to self control and something I am still trying to master as well. For example Lemon Pound cake is so hard for me to resist, I just love the stuff, so moist and lemony and tasty. Last weekend I decided to do a test and bought a whole loaf. I was going to enjoy it slowly over the week or 2. Nope shoved the hole thing down my pie hole in basically a 12 hour period. Am I addicted to it. Nope, it was just really yummy and I made a conscience, although not proud, decision to shove it all in at once. Still working on moderation and control when it comes to the really really really really yummy stuff.
ETA: I also bought cantaloupe, pineapple and cherries. All 3 were really good picks, super sweet and yummy, but I just don't have the same compulsion to shove all of it in my mouth at once. In fact, I still have pre-portioned snack packs and eat them daily because they are sweet and delicious. However, if sugar was an addiction, I would have shoved all of them in my mouth too, because they are made of sugar. I realize eating yummy treats probably does trigger some happy brain function, but I think it's because it's good and it makes us happy to eat good, yummy food. Period.0
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