So you want to start lifting? Great!
Fujiberry
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Just a brief note/point that I wanted to make since I've seen a lot of friends offline make this mistake recently.
If you just started or have been lifting for only a few months, don't do any of those split routines. Split routine means this:
Focus on compound lifts.
Compound Lifts:
If you still want a split instead of a full body workout of compound lifts, do an upper/lower split, like this:
Workout A: Upper
Workout B: Lower
Alternate, and workout every other day.
If you have a great muscle imbalance where one side is very, very clearly so much stronger than the other, where one side is completely dominant (as in my fellow fencers out there), then feel free to add a bit of isolation/unilateral work to try and even yourself out.
Have a good day, everyone~!
Good beginner programs include:
Some are/can be free. Just look up online.
Any other suggestions?
If you just started or have been lifting for only a few months, don't do any of those split routines. Split routine means this:
- Monday: Biceps, Chest [Bicep curls, dumbbell chest flies, ... ]
- Tuesday: Hamstrings, Back [Cable Kickbacks, Good Mornings, ...]
- Wednesday: Shoulders, Triceps [Shrugs, Tricep kickbacks, ... ]
- etc, etc.
Focus on compound lifts.
Compound Lifts:
- bench
- squat
- deadlift
- pull-ups
- rows
- military press
If you still want a split instead of a full body workout of compound lifts, do an upper/lower split, like this:
Workout A: Upper
- Bench
- Pull ups
- Rows
- Military Press
Workout B: Lower
- Squat
- Deadlift
- Leg Press
- Calf Raises
Alternate, and workout every other day.
If you have a great muscle imbalance where one side is very, very clearly so much stronger than the other, where one side is completely dominant (as in my fellow fencers out there), then feel free to add a bit of isolation/unilateral work to try and even yourself out.
Have a good day, everyone~!
Good beginner programs include:
- Starting Strength
- Strong Lifts
- New Rules of Lifting for Men/Women
- All Pro's
- Strong Curves
Some are/can be free. Just look up online.
Any other suggestions?
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Good and informative post.
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This is very good advice of course, I would go a bit further and simplify your list of information personally. There are lots of different exercises to do, but only 5 that someone who is new should do:
* Back Squat --- http://youtu.be/dQFsSj2IUAo
* Bench press --- http://youtu.be/34XRmd3a8_0
* Deadlift --- http://youtu.be/nXfzWe-6t0w
* Standing Overhead press
* Bent over row
(I'm adding in a few example vids that I like, but please do your own research).
You already mentioned them, but I would really emphasize these 5. These 5 are the only lifts a new lifter needs to do. They are the most rudimentary lifts every lifter should know. It took me months to figure that out, wish I would've had someone spell that out for me in the beginning. Do these 5 and ignore everything else. Literally. Until you get good at them, everything else is wasting time.
These 5 compounds can be a little bit scary for newbies, they were for me. I suggest you go on YouTube and search "how to" on each one (how to deadlift, how to bench, etc). Lots of good proper instruction will come up. Watch and learn at least a few videos on each move to get a sample for the different subtleties and nuances from different instructors.
A word of advice: maybe you're a dude who thinks he knows how to do one of these already, like benching. You probably don't, actually. Learn from these people who really know what they're doing and please study proper form. Even if you think you know, review the basics. Do it periodically. The last thing you want when lifting is an injury.
The worst thing you can do is copy what others do at the gym. Please don't, people at the gym don't know what they're doing. The reason: people don't study. They don't ask critical questions. Some do, most don't. If you copy others you see, listen to your boyfriend or whatever, odds are their knowledge is incomplete and probably bad. YouTube videos are your best crowd sourced knowledge base. Do your own research. Please get in the habit of researching and studying.
I'd skip pushups, pull-ups, chin-ups and dips to start. They are good compounds sure, but many new people don't have the strength to do 1 pull-up. Build some strength using the 5 then start incorporating other compounds like those. Really, every exercise is superfluous outside of the basic 5 lifts. I'd also argue they just aren't as good, pull-ups are a good compound but they only work a subset if the body. Squats etc work the entire body, and really need to be learned first.
And the sooner you do and learn the 5 compounds the better off you'll be. If you're serious about lifting it will take you years to master all 5. They inform so many other lifts (there are many variants of them, related lifts etc) and it's almost impossible to know them all. But to start it's really that simple, the more complex and deeper stuff will come later.
And as some twins say, it's just advice. Do your own research and figure it out.55 -
^^^^^ THIS2
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Thank you for this post and thank you to every who has input too. :flowerforyou:0
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Here's a very good standing overhead press video, goes over some of the nuances in getting the form just right. Follow his advice and you'll improve your lifting: http://youtu.be/sqKhLR1zRaU
There are several different bent over barbell rows, but the one to learn IMO is the Pendlay Row: http://youtu.be/ZlRrIsoDpKg Nothing is better for building a strong back and biceps. Bent over rows are why you don't need to waste your time with dumbbell curls or any other bicep curls.4 -
This is neat! Thanks for all the useful info here!0
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There's also a brief breakdown of some of the muscle groups engaged during compounds vs. isolations:
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/compound-exercises-vs-isolation-exercises/2 -
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Very helpful. Thanks.0
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There's also a brief breakdown of some of the muscle groups engaged during compounds vs. isolations:
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/compound-exercises-vs-isolation-exercises/
And there's more video breakdowns here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1189205510 -
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Tagging and thanks for the great info and links!0
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good stuff!0
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So in for this, thank you! c:0
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Great post OP
Your point about a split being for intermediates is very valid. I don't know how many people I see in the gym doing their "arm days" when there is definitely no strength base built yet.
One thing I will mention is that even though I am a huge fan of compound lifts they aren't actually "required". For people with injuries or mobility issues some of these can actually be dangerous so it is important to make sure that you are able to do them safely. And there is no reason why you can't switch in leg presses for squats while you work on hip/ankle mobility for example.
Some machines I actually prefer than free weights too like chest supported rows instead of bent over rows. Much harder to cheat and many people have an issue with keeping core tightness.
But just being nitpicky
And one thing you will notice with all the beginner programs is they all provide progressive overload. That is most important. If you continue to do what you could do last week then there won't be adequate stimulus for change. This can be in the form of volume or intensity.4 -
As an additional alternative (if they are going the split route) I would recommend a Push/Pull/Legs split.1
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As an additional alternative (if they are going the split route) I would recommend a Push/Pull/Legs split.2
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Bump in the hope that I can get back to lifting at some point!0
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great post!0
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Thanks for the info....saving it.0
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Exactly what I needed , thank you for making me grateful to visit the forums for once!0
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In for later.....thanks all1
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thanks for the good info! :flowerforyou:1
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