Is fruit fattening?

the sugars in fruits are WAY healthier than all the sugars found in artificial processed junk. even if you eat the same number of calories and sugar from an apple and some synthesised piece of crap in a plastic wrapper that probably contains all sorts of chemicals that mess up your hormones and may lead to weight gain in the long term , im all in on natural healthy whole foods

I raise your run on sentence with 4 twinkies. 4 twinkies vs the same calories and sugar content as fruit. Difference? Fruit will probably have more vitamins, minerals, and fiber. The sugar will be digested the same. My body doesn't care where it comes from. If I've already gotten the necessary nutrients my body needs, there's nothing wrong with twinkies within my calorie goal.

If you're getting your daily nutrients (aka all the vitamins, minerals, etc) that your body needs, there's nothing wrong with any food. You can label it, demonize it, maybe even put some devil horns on it, it doesn't matter. Calories in vs out for weight loss. Balancing your nutrient intake for health.

This isn't exactly true. First off, highly processed foods will cause an insulin spike which can increase your desire for more food. Also, you are creating a lot of free-radicals during its metabolization, and it will have little or no anti-oxidants in the food to counter the free-radicals. So, it has a much greater negative effect on the body than foods loaded with micro-nutrients.

Studies suggest that certain foods will increase weight gain even when adjusted for total energy input. The EPIC study suggests that meat, poultry, oils, and processed sugars caused increase in weight despite the same number of calories consumed when compared to plant-based whole foods.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20592131

Oh, well I guess I can put back on my 53 lbs then, cause calorie counting was all a lie

Don't forget koolaid!

I like it. Sometimes I have trouble opening a bottle of wine

oh gosh no fruit aint fattening lmao!! You already know its good for you.... sugar in sodas and fruit are very different. I mean eat what you want just eat within your macros and calories. there is always some new study and some stupid bs about oh water is bad for you ohh this bad for you blah blah. Eat clean and keep treats to a moderation.. simple

Don't forget koolaid!

I like it. Sometimes I have trouble opening a bottle of wine

Creeps me out BIG time!

Sure. Get down on a goat for having a nice meal. Next you'll tell me having breakfast and reading the morning paper is creepy, too.

Oh, well I guess I can put back on my 53 lbs then, cause calorie counting was all a lie

Nobody suggested that calorie counting won't work. However, it isn't the easiest way. I counted calories for a long time and would lose weight, then gain it back when I stopped counting. Now I eat as much food as I want and have no problem remaining lean. I just eat foods that have a lot of nutrients. Mostly raw fruits and vegetables, and occasionally some nuts. I still eat some processed crap once in a great while, but it is certainly not part of my lifestyle. Someone is having a party and they have a vegan cupcake, and I won't deny myself. But that is less than once a month.

Hey, if you enjoy the way you do things, I'm not going to knock it. Your way for me is unsustainable. I don't see foods the same way you do, which again, is fine that's personal preference. But there's nothing wrong with the way I do things either. Food is food.

Oh, well I guess I can put back on my 53 lbs then, cause calorie counting was all a lie


Nobody suggested that calorie counting won't work. However, it isn't the easiest way. I counted calories for a long time and would lose weight, then gain it back when I stopped counting. Now I eat as much food as I want and have no problem remaining lean. I just eat foods that have a lot of nutrients. Mostly raw fruits and vegetables, and occasionally some nuts. I still eat some processed crap once in a great while, but it is certainly not part of my lifestyle. Someone is having a party and they have a vegan cupcake, and I won't deny myself. But that is less than once a month.

Maybe calorie counting wasn't easier for YOU, but that's subjective and some people, like myself, find moderation and staying in a calorie deficit much easier than needlessly cutting out foods that we enjoy. Life is too short to squabble about how "unhealthy" an innocent can of soda is. Yeesh.

By the way, you probably should never say something doesn't work for "most" people. Use the word "some" instead. After all, you're on a calorie counting site, and there are plenty of examples around to rip apart your "most."

Oh, well I guess I can put back on my 53 lbs then, cause calorie counting was all a lie

Nobody suggested that calorie counting won't work. However, it isn't the easiest way. I counted calories for a long time and would lose weight, then gain it back when I stopped counting. Now I eat as much food as I want and have no problem remaining lean. I just eat foods that have a lot of nutrients. Mostly raw fruits and vegetables, and occasionally some nuts. I still eat some processed crap once in a great while, but it is certainly not part of my lifestyle. Someone is having a party and they have a vegan cupcake, and I won't deny myself. But that is less than once a month.

Hey, if you enjoy the way you do things, I'm not going to knock it. Your way for me is unsustainable. I don't see foods the same way you do, which again, is fine that's personal preference. But there's nothing wrong with the way I do things either. Food is food.

If it works for you, then fine. I never said it couldn't. It didn't work for me and doesn't work for most people. Calorie counting is very effective at losing weight. But unless you want to do it forever, it is won't be effective at keeping it off. I have remained lean for a decade now.

And don't be so sure we don't look at food the same way. Food has long been my comfort. I am a huge foodie and I am very gluttonous. I can easily out eat most people. Even obese people I can out eat. I just changed what I eat, not how much I eat. Actually, that isn't quite true. I actually eat a lot more quantity of food now than when I was heavy, and I enjoy it guilt free. I eat fruit like I used to eat candy as a kid.

Meh. I don't mind it. After a year, it kind of just feels like balancing a check book. The habit of counting is kind of second nature to me. I would be curious to see how I would manage without counting. I'm fairly confident I wouldnt be too far off from maintenance but I do have an unusually high TDEE. In terms of food, I see no need to deny myself things I try enjoy. Ice cream, fast food, etc. If a majority of my foods are coming from nutrient dense sources and I'm meeting my nutrient needs, foods that aren't so nutritious aren't going to hurt. Moderation is key for a lot of people.

I see many people fail because they think there's a magical pill, or they have to give up everything, or that they need to spend 10+ hours in a gym sweating to get results. It just isn't necessary.

2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".

In for…math?

2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".

2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".

In for…math?

I can't math but doesn't that mean there are no Americans of normal or below in this realm? Once you reach a certain BMI standard for the US you are hereby banished to another dimension.

HOW ARE YOU POSTING HERE?!

2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".

In for…math?

I can't math but doesn't that mean there are no Americans of normal or below in this realm? Once you reach a certain BMI standard for the US you are hereby banished to another dimension.

HOW ARE YOU POSTING HERE?!

Yer a little late to the party. That already happened.

2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".

I thought you were saying that calorie counting doesn't work for most people trying to lose weight - which is not true.

Calorie counting works for losing weight, but it doesn't work for most people in keeping the weight off. Most put the weight back on when they get tired of counting or reach their goal.

As long as you're not a diabetic (and even if you are) moderation is the key to fruit. My mom's diabetic and has learned that some fruits she just can't have and some are better for when she's having a low sugar day. Bananas are a super sugary one. As long as it fits in your calories for the day i wouldn't worry too much about it.

2/3's of Americans are overweight, 1/3 are Obese. I have no problem using the term "most".

I thought you were saying that calorie counting doesn't work for most people trying to lose weight - which is not true.

Calorie counting works for losing weight, but it doesn't work for most people in keeping the weight off. Most put the weight back on when they get tired of counting or reach their goal.

Of course calorie counting isn't going to help someone maintain if they stop doing it. That doesn't mean it doesn't work for those who do.