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I really liked your tips until I read tip #6.
Not all of us who eat 1200 calories are paralyzed hermits ( which is insulting towards people with handicaps who are unable to move and lacks logic ) but many of us are like I really short ( 4'11.5 " in my case ) and older ( past 65, also in my case ) and with a BMR of 1229 I do well on 1200 calories, especially for losing weight...and know that I am not the only one.
After reading #6 I felt disappointed, because I thought you knew what you were saying......well you quite don't.
Off to eat some cauliflower with cheese sauce and a chicken quarter.....yes, it can be done ( and easily ) on 1200 calories.....0 -
Also loads of ppl with thyroid/pituitary/pcos and other maladies often have to have reduced caloric intake to make up for a slower metabolism/digestion rate0
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What's a broad bean?Tip # 21 - Broad beans are not food.
Um Yeah Broad beans are food - Uranium is not food!
A Fava bean0 -
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Tip #14 - no muscle is not heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
FIFY
Muscle is NOT heavier than fat, it is more dense. You also CANNOT build muscle while eating at a deficit.
Great joke. I know one about a man going into a bar!
I love you.
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What's a broad bean?Tip # 21 - Broad beans are not food.
Um Yeah Broad beans are food - Uranium is not food!
You don't want to know - but they are definitely not food.0 -
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#1 Don't argue with people who think that muscle weighs the same as fat.
You might as well try to convince a flat-earther of the near-spherical nature of our planet, or a moon landing denier that it was easier to land on the moon in 1969 than to produce a convincing fake.
Having made the rule, and I believe it is rule number 1, I will break it this last time.
What do you think someone means when they say one substance weighs more than another? They mean that it is denser. What else could someone older than 2 possibly mean by that? What do nuclear physicists mean by "heavy water"? They mean water that, by virtue of having extra neutrons in its atomic nuclei, weighs more than the same volume of ordinary water, i.e. it is denser. Or are these PhD physicists ignorant of the most basic nature of the world around them, something even a kindergartener can understand?
Explaining slowly and carefully to someone that a pound of one thing weighs the same as a pound of something else is condescending in the extreme, and just results in two people thinking the other is stupid. Assuming that the people you communicate with have the intelligence of a mollusc is not the best way to make friends and influence people.
Why should I say "denser" to appease people who have a rigid and incomplete definition of certain English terms?
And I'm pretty certain you'd find a good correlation between the belief that muscle and fat weigh the same and failure to achieve fitness goals. Why else stick doggedly to such an absurd position, if not to rationalise another doughnut?
I think that might have qualified as a rant, but I feel better for it, especially since it wasn't aimed at any one luddite in particular.
Makes rule, immediately breaks it.0 -
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This needs to be stickied. If I could I would sticky it with myself. But alas, the power is not mine. Should be though.0
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And of course 2 lbs of muscle weigh more than 1 lb of fat. That's simple math. But to make a blanket statement that is incorrect that muscle weighs more than fat, no. You compare them 1:1
A lb of muscle weighs the same as a lb of fat as does a lb of feathers, lb of avocados, lb of apples, etc. While there may be a lot more of some than others, they all still weigh the exact same. If you are comparing weights, then you compare 1:1. You want to compare volume that's a different story all together.
Many people take this as a given when the question is asked, and their mind does the above work and assumes the meaning is not literally "does a pound weigh a pound" because nobody in their right mind would be asking that question, but really "does an equal volume of a substance have a different weight" is what is meant.
The more literal minded can't make this jump from the question and it drives them nuts and write how the others are wrong...to which the more flexible minded people get annoyed the obvious real question was ignored and the literal minded people are being needlessly anal retentive...to which the literal minded people still cant make the jump and add a few more definitions...which causes the flexible minded people to think the literal minded obviously are just trying to argue and be "right" because anyone can see the literal question is not whats being asked...and on and on...
^^BINGO! And welcome to the world of living with someone with Aspergers. Think Sheldon, from The Big Bang Theory.
SO many Sheldon's on here!
And of course there are the people who just like to argue for the sake of arguing.
But be careful that you don't accuse them of "typing just because they like the cool clicking sound the keyboard makes", because they may report you. This will result in you receiving a nice note from a mod, telling you that a grown man got his feelings hurt, so she had to remove your comment.:noway:0 -
Tip #25 It's okay to log sex as cardio.
^^This! But most of us enter it as, 'walking the dog'. :blushing:0 -
What's a broad bean?Tip # 21 - Broad beans are not food.
Um Yeah Broad beans are food - Uranium is not food!
A Fava bean
Do they go well with Liver and a nice bottle of Chianti?0 -
Tip: 1200 calories can be the right number for many but not most people. People who automatically advocate against it are usually acting on emotion and group "wisdom."0
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And of course 2 lbs of muscle weigh more than 1 lb of fat. That's simple math. But to make a blanket statement that is incorrect that muscle weighs more than fat, no. You compare them 1:1
A lb of muscle weighs the same as a lb of fat as does a lb of feathers, lb of avocados, lb of apples, etc. While there may be a lot more of some than others, they all still weigh the exact same. If you are comparing weights, then you compare 1:1. You want to compare volume that's a different story all together.
Many people take this as a given when the question is asked, and their mind does the above work and assumes the meaning is not literally "does a pound weigh a pound" because nobody in their right mind would be asking that question, but really "does an equal volume of a substance have a different weight" is what is meant.
The more literal minded can't make this jump from the question and it drives them nuts and write how the others are wrong...to which the more flexible minded people get annoyed the obvious real question was ignored and the literal minded people are being needlessly anal retentive...to which the literal minded people still cant make the jump and add a few more definitions...which causes the flexible minded people to think the literal minded obviously are just trying to argue and be "right" because anyone can see the literal question is not whats being asked...and on and on...
^^BINGO! And welcome to the world of living with someone with Aspergers. Think Sheldon, from The Big Bang Theory.
SO many Sheldon's on here!
And of course there are the people who just like to argue for the sake of arguing.
But be careful that you don't accuse them of "typing just because they like the cool clicking sound the keyboard makes", because they may report you. This will result in you receiving a nice note from a mod, telling you that a grown man got his feelings hurt, so she had to remove your comment.:noway:
WOW---I think I know someone like that.
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#8 is the best!0
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Sorry a pound of fat and a pound of muscle both weigh a poundTip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake0 -
Sorry a pound of fat and a pound of muscle both weigh a poundTip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
Yes but 2lb of muscle and 1lb of fat are not!0 -
*bangs head on keyboard*0
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If muscle is more dense (like you said), that means that a certain volume of muscle IS heavier than fat would be at that certain volume (which you apparently deny?). A bodybuilder with the exact same bodyvolume as an obese man will be heavier. If you have two girls, one of them being a musclar fiitness freak and one of them being actually a bit chubby, they could still weigh exactly the same.
That's why, while dieting and toning up at the same time, you might not see it on the scale at the high rate you'd expect - because you're buildig muscle.0 -
block this thread. it is useless.
Tip #18-If you don't like a thread or think it's "useless", don't read it. Simple as that.
but you have to read it before you can make the decision you don't like it and once you've read it there's no turning back.0 -
Tip #42 Squirrels like to eat lucky charms.
seen this word a few times in this thread and CAN'T HELP MYSELF....
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Tip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
#14 is a joke right?0 -
Tip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
Maybe I am not understanding #14. How is muscle heavier than fat. A lb of muscle weighs the same as a lb of fat?
This response always perplexes me. One pound of anything doesn't weigh more than one pound of anything else, because they're both a pound. Der. But does that mean that no substance in the universe is heavier than any other substance? NO. It just means that someone's being a pedant about wanting you to say something is "denser" not "heavier." But in common parlance, you can say for instance that gold is heavier than aluminum and everybody who finished middle school knows exactly what you mean: that a given volume of one thing is heavier than the same volume of the other thing. It's not incorrect.0 -
Tip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
Maybe I am not understanding #14. How is muscle heavier than fat. A lb of muscle weighs the same as a lb of fat?
This response always perplexes me. One pound of anything doesn't weigh more than one pound of anything else, because they're both a pound. Der. But does that mean that no substance in the universe is heavier than any other substance? NO. It just means that someone's being a pedant about wanting you to say something is "denser" not "heavier." But in common parlance, you can say for instance that gold is heavier than aluminum and everybody who finished middle school knows exactly what you mean: that a given volume of one thing is heavier than the same volume of the other thing. It's not incorrect.
But you didn't read "thugh rulez", now everything in the universe weighs the same as everything else, and nobody on those bodybuilding sites that lost massive amounts of weight and gained strength for weight loss and strength competitions built any muscle at all! Neither did wrestlers making weight, or anyone on a long term diet while lifting weights. Because people on MFP said so that's why! And cuz whatever they say = science!
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Tip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
Maybe I am not understanding #14. How is muscle heavier than fat. A lb of muscle weighs the same as a lb of fat?
This response always perplexes me. One pound of anything doesn't weigh more than one pound of anything else, because they're both a pound. Der. But does that mean that no substance in the universe is heavier than any other substance? NO. It just means that someone's being a pedant about wanting you to say something is "denser" not "heavier." But in common parlance, you can say for instance that gold is heavier than aluminum and everybody who finished middle school knows exactly what you mean: that a given volume of one thing is heavier than the same volume of the other thing. It's not incorrect.
But you will always get the standard response. A gold is not heavier than aluminium - a pound of gold weighs the same as a pound of aluminium.0 -
Sorry a pound of fat and a pound of muscle both weigh a poundTip #14 - yes muscle is heavier than fat.
Tip #15 - Tea and Coffee does count as water intake
No one said a pound of muscle is heavier than a pound of fat! A pound is a pound but in cubic VOLUME it is more dense there for, for the same sized amount of volume it would weigh more! Muscle density is 1.06 g/ml and fat density is approx 0.9
g/ml. Thus, one liter of muscle would weight 1.06 kg and one liter of fat would weight 0.9 kg. In other words, muscle is about 18% more dense than fat and there for weighs more :P
But if you want to be a silly stickler and twist peoples words for it to mean a pound is a pound go for it but it doesnt make you correct0 -
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