thoughts on the 500cal diet

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  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Thanks for clarifying that for me. I read this article, and I think it might disagree with what you are both saying, but I'll take your input into consideration. http://fitlife.tv/nutrients-vs-calories-do-you-know-the-difference/

    I think you're confusing the words nutrient and nutrition.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    I'm not over exorcising to burn calories, I do a 60 min aerobics workout and maybe some laps in the pool. That's hardly over exorcising.

    And rest days?

    And how many laps?

    Because if that's really all you're doing, I have trouble believing you're only netting 500.

    She's eating under 1000 and exercising 400 off.
  • ah1141
    ah1141 Posts: 37
    I'm not over exorcising to burn calories, I do a 60 min aerobics workout and maybe some laps in the pool. That's hardly over exorcising.

    And rest days?

    And how many laps?

    Because if that's really all you're doing, I have trouble believing you're only netting 500.

    Yes, that is literally all I'm doing. A 60 minute workout and a few laps. The thing is, the foods I eat are very low on calories but highly nutritious.
  • MissBabyJane
    MissBabyJane Posts: 538 Member
    BAD IDEA. You will re-gain everything you lose in that week in the moment you start eating normal again.
  • ah1141
    ah1141 Posts: 37
    Thanks for clarifying that for me. I read this article, and I think it might disagree with what you are both saying, but I'll take your input into consideration. http://fitlife.tv/nutrients-vs-calories-do-you-know-the-difference/

    I think you're confusing the words nutrient and nutrition.

    No, I'm not.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrition
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Also, I think you're missing the point of the article you posted. It is not saying that calories don't matter for weight loss. In fact, it says this:
    If you have tried the outdated “calories in, calories out” approach and seen no results, you likely have a metabolic issue that needs to be investigated and addressed.

    But it is also promoting what is basically considered "clean eating" or "whole foods." The gist of the article is that calories are not the only thing that matters...not that the calories don't matter.

    Also, if you'll look toward the bottom, the article has a purpose: to sell you an e-book about juicing. You should automatically be suspicious of any information presented with the purpose of selling you something.
  • ah1141
    ah1141 Posts: 37
    Thanks for clarifying that for me. I read this article, and I think it might disagree with what you are both saying, but I'll take your input into consideration. http://fitlife.tv/nutrients-vs-calories-do-you-know-the-difference/

    I think you're confusing the words nutrient and nutrition.
    No, I'm not.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrition
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I'm not over exorcising to burn calories, I do a 60 min aerobics workout and maybe some laps in the pool. That's hardly over exorcising.

    And rest days?

    And how many laps?

    Because if that's really all you're doing, I have trouble believing you're only netting 500.

    Yes, that is literally all I'm doing. A 60 minute workout and a few laps. The thing is, the foods I eat are very low on calories but highly nutritious.

    No matter how nutritious your foods are your body still needs a minimum amount of calories to function based on what you burn per day including (apologies if terminologies are slightly wrong)

    Basal Metabolic Rate
    Non Exercise Activity Thermogenesis
    Food Thormogenisis
    Exercise Activity Thermogenisis

    What you are doing doesn't even cover your Basal Metabolic Rate so what about the energy (energy = calories) required for the rest of it?
  • ah1141
    ah1141 Posts: 37
    I take stimulants for ADHD and depression. I have TOO MUCH energy as it is.
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I take stimulants for ADHD and depression. I have TOO MUCH energy as it is.

    I am not entirely sure that stimulants are the same as the energy required for body function
  • ah1141
    ah1141 Posts: 37
    At any rate, I'm adding more food to my diet to increase the net calorie count so I can build muscle.
  • ah1141
    ah1141 Posts: 37
    Goodnight guys! Sorry to derail this post.
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
    At any rate, I'm adding more food to my diet to increase the net calorie count so I can build muscle.

    You are not going to be able to add muscle unless you are eating more calories than your body needs for normal daily activity

    In order to see how many that is set MFP to maintenance and eat back all your exercise calories

    You are not going to lose weight and build muscle unfortunately
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    There's evidence (here! On this very thread!) that 500 calories a day makes the brain turn to mush.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    From your wiki link:
    Macronutrients
    The macronutrients are carbohydrates, fats, protein, and water.[46] The macronutrients (excluding fiber and water) provide structural material (amino acids from which proteins are built, and lipids from which cell membranes and some signaling molecules are built) and energy. Some of the structural material can be used to generate energy internally, and in either case it is measured in Joules or kilocalories (often called "Calories" and written with a capital C to distinguish them from little 'c' calories). Carbohydrates and proteins provide 17 kJ approximately (4 kcal) of energy per gram, while fats provide 37 kJ (9 kcal) per gram.,[50] though the net energy from either depends on such factors as absorption and digestive effort, which vary substantially from instance to instance. Vitamins, minerals, fiber, and water do not provide energy, but are required for other reasons.
  • JosieRawr
    JosieRawr Posts: 788 Member
    VLCD should only be carried out in doctor supervised situations where the patient's weight is an immediate danger to their health more so than the risk and stress of the VLCD!

    Food is fuel..

    fuel is good!

    EDIT- side note... Wikipedia, while useful to satisfy curiosity is not citation worthy according to any of the professors I had...
  • bregalad5
    bregalad5 Posts: 3,965 Member
    I take stimulants for ADHD and depression. I have TOO MUCH energy as it is.
    What you are doing doesn't even cover your Basal Metabolic Rate so what about the energy (energy = calories) required for the rest of it?

    the bold is the definition of energy being used here, not how hyper you are
  • MN4US
    MN4US Posts: 78 Member
    I'm not over exorcising to burn calories, I do a 60 min aerobics workout and maybe some laps in the pool. That's hardly over exorcising.

    OMG OMG Op. I beg of you please look up the difference between 'exorcising' and 'exercising'
    I can't take it anymore :'(

    And, I kind of get what you're asking, like, you're looking at it from nutrition point of view rather than calorie intake.

    I can't be much help, but I understand that you need to be netting a certain amount of calories to make sure you're getting your nutrient needs for the day, and that's probably well more than a 1,000 calories worth tbh.

    And yes yes you're eating healthy things, but not enough of them.. And like someone else said, there's a difference between medication/ADHD energy and the energy needed for your normal body cell processes inside of you that you can't directly measure/feel.

    What's your BMR?

    And curious, fair enough you've got energy from wherever, but what stops you from eating more of the healthy stuff to raise your intake? Other than you're not convinced you need it?

    It's the general consensus that your net calories should be over your BMR, yet you seem quite resistant to this? Why?
  • revathyr
    revathyr Posts: 2
    can sumone enlighten me about this?
  • splashtree2
    splashtree2 Posts: 277
    Less than 1200 calories a day will put you into starvation mode, thereby shutting down your metabolic rate. The worst part is then your body takes those 500 calories and stores them as fat. Fat cells have this habit of growing when you eventually increase your calories.

    Therefore these insanity diets just make you fatter. They are designed to lose weight quickly, the problem is you gain it back twice as fast as you lost it, plus some. So don't do it, stick with your recommended MFP calorie intake for long term, permanent weight loss success.


    1200 cal per day are just fine to loose weight quickly cause i guess you workout as well and it's a diet that helps you to keep on track, you should make it!!!
  • shaddowstorm
    shaddowstorm Posts: 155 Member
    didn't think this would get so much attention.

    I only asked and to be honest I have tried 500cals for one week before and I lost almost 3kgs which I have kept off .... so far.

    yes I am 5'7 and 60kgs atm would like to lose 2kgs and at the moment I am eating around 1000cals a day.
  • trinatrina1984
    trinatrina1984 Posts: 1,018 Member
    I found myself watching Big Rich Texas the other day ( I know, I know don't judge me) any way, this relatively fit looking woman was on it and she wanted to be a model so she went to see this woman who told her she was too big and could only be a plus size model. She then went to the doctors who advised her to go on a 500 calorie diet! I found this really quite disturbing, I mean what sort of message is this supposed to be sending out?!

    Also to the girl who seems to have a bit of an issue with exercising, if you're going to keep talking about it please learn to spell it .

    Thanks
  • TheNoLeafClover
    TheNoLeafClover Posts: 335 Member
    didn't think this would get so much attention.

    I only asked and to be honest I have tried 500cals for one week before and I lost almost 3kgs which I have kept off .... so far.

    yes I am 5'7 and 60kgs atm would like to lose 2kgs and at the moment I am eating around 1000cals a day.

    If you are really consuming only 1,000 calories per day, you're eating far too little. You are already at a healthy weight. A deficit that large is both unhealthy and unnecessary.
  • Shropshire1959
    Shropshire1959 Posts: 982 Member
    Less than 1200 calories a day will put you into starvation mode, thereby shutting down your metabolic rate. The worst part is then your body takes those 500 calories and stores them as fat. Fat cells have this habit of growing when you eventually increase your calories.

    Therefore these insanity diets just make you fatter. They are designed to lose weight quickly, the problem is you gain it back twice as fast as you lost it, plus some. So don't do it, stick with your recommended MFP calorie intake for long term, permanent weight loss success.

    BULL $****
  • unnamed101
    unnamed101 Posts: 14
    netting low calories has worked so far for me I dont feel hungry or hypoglcemic as I would if I simply dieted, I've netted very few calories over the month of June and that wasn't even including my BMR, I took a week off at the end and gained nothing back even after increasing my calorie intake to about 1400-1500 per day, most of my burns came from cardio and I lost 15 pounds that month so while EATING 500 calories per day is insane and definitely impossible for me, netting that isnt.
  • pamleac
    pamleac Posts: 7 Member
    My family doctor gave me a 1000 c. plan to follow and said to me, "Anyone can lose weight on a 1000 calories". There are lots of veggies on there that are free.
  • Shropshire1959
    Shropshire1959 Posts: 982 Member
    Thanks for clarifying that for me. I read this article, and I think it might disagree with what you are both saying, but I'll take your input into consideration. http://fitlife.tv/nutrients-vs-calories-do-you-know-the-difference/

    I think you're confusing the words nutrient and nutrition.

    No, I'm not.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrition

    Whilst you are on the internet ... google exorcise
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