Fruit = sugar ... arghh!!
rocket_ace
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was in a trader joe's yesterday, and couldn't resist a few of the deals on fruit...got some cherries, some apricots, and some blueberries... at the counter I off had just noted, "wow, I got a lot of fruit"....the clerk, in response, said "a lot of sugar". This took me by surprise, but I just replied "oh, we're not going to start counting the sugar in fruit are we?" . She looked at me, and said dryly "YOU should" ( with an emphasis on the "You". Lol, she was a little overweight herself, and I am of course a bit over weight, but just WOW. I wanted to reply back that "it wasn't eating fruit that got you and me in this shape lady"
and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.
and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.
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If you're not diabetic or watching your glucose for another reason, just ignore the "sugar" category in MFP. CALORIES in fruit is what keeps me from eating them non-stop...
Edit to repeat: I LOVE FRUIT. It's all I would eat, given the chance. Ever since I gave up Mountain Dew and Coke, man, I love me some fruit. Fruit juice, fruit salad, fruit in my yogurt, fruit in my fruit...0 -
I really don't worry about sugar too much...it's not like I'm sucking down Big Gulps like I used to. When last I logged I was taking in around 80-100 grams of sugar per day, most of which was from fruit and vegetables and perfectly acceptable given my activity level. It can be an issue of you are diabetic or otherwise have insulin sensitivities...but even then, exercise goes a long way here in regulating these matters.
During the summer months I eat a good 2-3 servings of fruit per day...generally some melon and berries in the morning and a nectarine or peach in the afternoon. In the winter I'm pretty much relegated to apples. In general I would advise a higher ratio of veg to fruit intake, but that's just me...2-3 servings of fruit and 6 servings or so of vegetables daily...0 -
was in a trader joe's yesterday, and couldn't resist a few of the deals on fruit...got some cherries, some apricots, and some blueberries... at the counter I off had just noted, "wow, I got a lot of fruit"....the clerk, in response, said "a lot of sugar". This took me by surprise, but I just replied "oh, we're not going to start counting the sugar in fruit are we?" . She looked at me, and said dryly "YOU should" ( with an emphasis on the "You". Lol, she was a little overweight herself, and I am of course a bit over weight, but just WOW. I wanted to reply back that "it wasn't eating fruit that got you and me in this shape lady"
and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.
I would have went straight to her boss.0 -
was in a trader joe's yesterday, and couldn't resist a few of the deals on fruit...got some cherries, some apricots, and some blueberries... at the counter I off had just noted, "wow, I got a lot of fruit"....the clerk, in response, said "a lot of sugar". This took me by surprise, but I just replied "oh, we're not going to start counting the sugar in fruit are we?" . She looked at me, and said dryly "YOU should" ( with an emphasis on the "You". Lol, she was a little overweight herself, and I am of course a bit over weight, but just WOW. I wanted to reply back that "it wasn't eating fruit that got you and me in this shape lady"
and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.
Don't take advice from hipster register monkeys. Eat your fruit. Savor the toxins.0 -
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was in a trader joe's yesterday, and couldn't resist a few of the deals on fruit...got some cherries, some apricots, and some blueberries... at the counter I off had just noted, "wow, I got a lot of fruit"....the clerk, in response, said "a lot of sugar". This took me by surprise, but I just replied "oh, we're not going to start counting the sugar in fruit are we?" . She looked at me, and said dryly "YOU should" ( with an emphasis on the "You". Lol, she was a little overweight herself, and I am of course a bit over weight, but just WOW. I wanted to reply back that "it wasn't eating fruit that got you and me in this shape lady"
and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.
Don't take advice from hipster register monkeys. Eat your fruit. Savor the toxins.
Fruit is a great source of healthy, great tasting carbs. Carbs are fuel. Ignore the self righteous clerk and enjoy your fruit!0 -
I think in this journey, you gotta choose your battles. Personally, I choose to not battle the fruit thing. I LOVE fruit! Especially this time of year when all of the berries and melons are in season.
I rationalize it this way: I eat quite healthy the majority of the time. I do not do "cheat days" or even "cheat meals", really. I do not ever eat fast food, and desserts are a rarity in our house. I buy organic (when available and affordable) and steer clear of artificial sweeteners or GMOs. I'm a vegetarian and so my diet is very plant based. Take away my fruit and I'd feel deprived!
Fruit is hydrating, packed with antioxidants and can be quite filling! Plus it's freaking delicious. Eat the fruit and tell the Trader Joe's chick to keep her opinions to herself.0 -
Have you heard of Freelee, the Banana girl?
I don't promote this but it is too funny and appropriate not to post. :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Freelea0 -
Since you said you were both overweight, I wonder if the cashier would have said the same thing to someone who was shredded coming through the checkout with the same items.0
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was in a trader joe's yesterday, and couldn't resist a few of the deals on fruit...got some cherries, some apricots, and some blueberries... at the counter I off had just noted, "wow, I got a lot of fruit"....the clerk, in response, said "a lot of sugar". This took me by surprise, but I just replied "oh, we're not going to start counting the sugar in fruit are we?" . She looked at me, and said dryly "YOU should" ( with an emphasis on the "You". Lol, she was a little overweight herself, and I am of course a bit over weight, but just WOW. I wanted to reply back that "it wasn't eating fruit that got you and me in this shape lady"
and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.
Looking at your ticker I'd say youve got this program under control. Fruit is awesome cause it tastes delish. My sugar is always over but I don't worry about since I dont have any medical issues that say I should watch my sugar.
That traders joes chick seems like a piece of work. Unfortunate. I hate people like that.0 -
Fruits, especially berries, are full of fiber and antioxidants. It's not just about the sugar (unless you have a medical problem). Just ignore her comment; sugar isn't the enemy especially when it comes from whole food sources. That being said, I love fruits too. I eat it every single day.
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I had a checkout person at Walmart complain about the sparkles that were coming off a pair of costume fairy wings I was purchasing. I didn't say anything, but really? What was her goal there?0
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Enjoy those cherries, apricots, and blueberries while they're in season. I've found it useful to track fiber rather than sugar in my daily diary since I have no medical issues with sugar.
The clerk was out of line (couldn't resist), showing poor grasp of job skills and nutritional information, but I don't like to jeopardize another person's livelihood unless my life is endangered.0 -
Ask yourself this one question,
Do I have a diagnosed medical problem such as diabetes where controlling sugar is needed?' If the answer is no don't worry about sugar
Now go and eat that yummy fruit0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables.
Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables. Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
Giggle.0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables. Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
Giggle.
Double giggle.0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables. Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
Giggle.
Double giggle.
Tripple the fun0 -
Hmmmm fruit.
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I had a checkout person at Walmart complain about the sparkles that were coming off a pair of costume fairy wings I was purchasing. I didn't say anything, but really? What was her goal there?
Hahaha! Good point!0 -
was in a trader joe's yesterday, and couldn't resist a few of the deals on fruit...got some cherries, some apricots, and some blueberries... at the counter I off had just noted, "wow, I got a lot of fruit"....the clerk, in response, said "a lot of sugar". This took me by surprise, but I just replied "oh, we're not going to start counting the sugar in fruit are we?" . She looked at me, and said dryly "YOU should" ( with an emphasis on the "You". Lol, she was a little overweight herself, and I am of course a bit over weight, but just WOW. I wanted to reply back that "it wasn't eating fruit that got you and me in this shape lady"
and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.
Love your avatar. Your sugar counts are fine. You can replace the sugar with something useful, like fiber. The sugar is there by default, but only important if you are diabetic.0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables. Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
Giggle.
Double giggle.
Tripple the fun
Quadruple because really? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables.
Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
You've got to be kidding me! Fruits are mostly useless???? Fruit contains loads of vitamins and minerals. And, it's delicious so that's a bonus. Sheesh people. If you enjoy fruit, eat it.0 -
Yes, really.
There is literally nothing in fruit that cannot be gained from vegetables, with less useless sugar.
I highly doubt these folks are following a targeted approach of consuming sugars/carbs 30 minutes before an intense lifting session or cardio session.
There is no other reason to consume that much sugar.
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Our bodies are programmed to crave sugar after we ingest sugar. Because sugar actually used to be extremely rare, and was extremely valuable as a quick-burst fuel source for hundreds of thousands of years.
That cannot be said in modern times, and we continually seek to find "excuses" for "needing" sugary fruit.0 -
The sugar in fruit is a simple sugar. It is best to eat with a meal or a piece of protein if having for a snack. If you have 2-3 servings of fruit per day you are fine. Moderation! Remember a balanced eating plan is the goal.0
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Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables.
Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
:laugh: There's nothing wrong with fruit. And this is coming from someone who has insulin resistance and hypoglycemia and has to watch their carb/sugar intake.
Fruit is a common trigger for people to overeat? Uh… false. Speak for yourself only, please. Just because it's a common trigger for YOU to overeat doesn't mean that's the case for everyone else.0 -
I really don't worry about sugar too much...it's not like I'm sucking down Big Gulps like I used to. When last I logged I was taking in around 80-100 grams of sugar per day, most of which was from fruit and vegetables and perfectly acceptable given my activity level. It can be an issue of you are diabetic or otherwise have insulin sensitivities...but even then, exercise goes a long way here in regulating these matters.
During the summer months I eat a good 2-3 servings of fruit per day...generally some melon and berries in the morning and a nectarine or peach in the afternoon. In the winter I'm pretty much relegated to apples. In general I would advise a higher ratio of veg to fruit intake, but that's just me...2-3 servings of fruit and 6 servings or so of vegetables daily...
In all seriousness....Why just apples in winter? Citrus fruits, pears? Do you not like them, or do you only buy what is local and in season in your region? I'm curious. I can't eat fruits because of a pesky genetic health issue (Interstitial Cystitis)...the acids in them cause me major pain to my injured bladder wall. I get away with pears (Comice are the best), dates (unsulphured), and cococnut (unsulphured), but that is it so far for the past 8 years. Maybe I will be able to add more back as the years go by. I hope so, as I desperately miss my fruit. :sad:0 -
Yes, really.
There is literally nothing in fruit that cannot be gained from vegetables, with less useless sugar.
I highly doubt these folks are following a targeted approach of consuming sugars/carbs 30 minutes before an intense lifting session or cardio session.
Fruit is fairly satiating, micronutrient dense, and most importantly sugar is not useless. Finally whether or not you can acquire a given nutrient in another food item is not justification to call one of those food items arbitrarily bad.
Also, cherries can give me something that broccoli can't. Happiness.0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Oh, good. More sugar is super evil. Fruit is therefore super evil.
One can reasonably debate even the medical recommendations (for example, from WHO and the AMA) for added sugar, since they are based on using added sugar as a proxy for calorie surplus, and if one knows that one is consuming adequate nutrients and maintenance or fewer calories added sugar in somewhat higher numbers need not be a problem (barring a medical condition, of course). However, since the WHO and AMA recommendations are common sources of the idea that sugar should be severely limited, it is worth looking at these. When one does, one learns that they specifically are not based on some toxic or even bad effect of sugar itself (other than marginally on teeth and, you know, practice correct dental hygiene). And, relevant to this topic, they specifically exclude sugar that comes with significant nutrients (like fruit or dairy) since the reason for the recommendation is that added sugar tends to be a significant source of nutrient light calories in societies where people in general consume too many calories. Under that reasoning, a conclusion that fruit should be avoided for people without specific medical issues makes no sense.Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
I seriously doubt many people are triggered to overconsume by fruit or react to fruit by going on some kind of sugar binge. I know my body does not react that way. Perhaps yours does--bummer!--but making assumptions about other people from that isn't all that helpful.0 -
Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.
Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".
It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.
Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.
The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables. Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.
Giggle.
Double giggle.
Tripple the fun
Quadruple because really? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quintuple the laughs! The assertion that fruit is 'mostly useless' is well... completely useless. EAT THE FRUIT.
And to the OP - the cashier at Trader Joe's was rude and out of line. I have a pet peeve about grocery store cashiers that make personal commentary about my food choices.0
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