Veganism
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Just a simple question from someone who is still in the learning process. I eat cottage cheese, eggs, butter, fish etc but for the life of me I just don't like the TASTE of animal flesh or shell fish. I simply can't eat flesh, I gag when confronted with all the steaks laid out at the butchers, all the chickens looking like infants. It's nothing to do with how I was brought up, my entire family ate meat and my children and grandchildren eat meat too. I prepare meat at family gatherings, but don't like to. Am I a throwback? Is it possible that a few of us are actually predisposed that way. Just a question for some of you much more learned ones.
Obviously you can eat animal flesh, since you eat fish.0 -
Well, people believe that doing something - abstaining as far as they can - is better than doing nothing...People do the best they can because they believe it's better than doing nothing.
This is pretty much how I feel (though I'm only a vegetarian, but I aim to be cruelty-free).0 -
going vegan was the single greatest decision I have ever made0
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Just a simple question from someone who is still in the learning process. I eat cottage cheese, eggs, butter, fish etc but for the life of me I just don't like the TASTE of animal flesh or shell fish. I simply can't eat flesh, I gag when confronted with all the steaks laid out at the butchers, all the chickens looking like infants. It's nothing to do with how I was brought up, my entire family ate meat and my children and grandchildren eat meat too. I prepare meat at family gatherings, but don't like to. Am I a throwback? Is it possible that a few of us are actually predisposed that way. Just a question for some of you much more learned ones.
Obviously you can eat animal flesh, since you eat fish.
Change that to red meat, and I can't eat the fish if it's still in a tank, it has to be prepared0 -
It can be confusing if you re considering a vegan lifestyle. One thing is everything dies. Even humans. Everyone on the planet is doing their own thing, what they think is best for them at the time. If you want to feel better and do your little part to leave the planet better for the next generation then go for vegan. So you have to take a little vitamin now and then. Its better than the other choices in the long run.0
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I'm pleasantly surprised.
When I dared open this thread, I thought it was going to be nothing but back-and-forth ridiculousness.
While there has been a little of that, the thread has actually morphed into a good, healthy, rational dialogue for the most part.
:drinker: <<< Vegan drinks for some...
:drinker: <<< Non-vegan for others!0 -
:drinker: <<< Vegan drinks for some...
:drinker: <<< Non-vegan for others!
Coffee or tea all around! I think we all (or almost all) will agree that coffee or tea is delicious. And, it's acceptable for any diet.0 -
If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
How is vegan food something that is unattainable for non-vegans?
Can one eat this delicious food only if vegan? Does vegan amplify the flavoring? If I were to make said delicious food, would it be less delicious?0 -
Change that to red meat, and I can't eat the fish if it's still in a tank, it has to be prepared
I'm not sure what you mean here. You can't eat red meat that way either, it has to be prepared.0 -
If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
How is vegan food something that is unattainable for non-vegans?
Can one eat this delicious food only if vegan? Does vegan amplify the flavoring? If I were to make said delicious food, would it be less delicious?
Not to mention, I would venture to guess that any meal that a vegan can prepare....and I do mean ANY meal.... would still be better with a ribeye laid on top
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Ok folks stop the "Google So & So" train right here.
If you want to provide evidence, provide a link pertinent to your argument.
No one is going to go research your argument that is backed up with no evidence at all besides "Google this."0 -
Just a simple question from someone who is still in the learning process. I eat cottage cheese, eggs, butter, fish etc but for the life of me I just don't like the TASTE of animal flesh or shell fish. I simply can't eat flesh, I gag when confronted with all the steaks laid out at the butchers, all the chickens looking like infants. It's nothing to do with how I was brought up, my entire family ate meat and my children and grandchildren eat meat too. I prepare meat at family gatherings, but don't like to. Am I a throwback? Is it possible that a few of us are actually predisposed that way. Just a question for some of you much more learned ones.
Obviously you can eat animal flesh, since you eat fish.
Change that to red meat, and I can't eat the fish if it's still in a tank, it has to be prepared0 -
Let's not forget the con of being a vegan is that you're going to get alot of dirty looks and people avoiding you. People think vegan and then think PETA and obnoxious people trying to control our food.0
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Say his name 3 times and derp appears.All credibility is shot out the window when Lustig is brought up.
I lold hard0 -
Don't eat red meat at all, will eat fish if it's been cooked for me, say in batter, in answer to your question dbataJust a simple question from someone who is still in the learning process. I eat cottage cheese, eggs, butter, fish etc but for the life of me I just don't like the TASTE of animal flesh or shell fish. I simply can't eat flesh, I gag when confronted with all the steaks laid out at the butchers, all the chickens looking like infants. It's nothing to do with how I was brought up, my entire family ate meat and my children and grandchildren eat meat too. I prepare meat at family gatherings, but don't like to. Am I a throwback? Is it possible that a few of us are actually predisposed that way. Just a question for some of you much more learned ones.
Obviously you can eat animal flesh, since you eat fish.
Change that to red meat, and I can't eat the fish if it's still in a tank, it has to be prepared0 -
If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
How is vegan food something that is unattainable for non-vegans?
Can one eat this delicious food only if vegan? Does vegan amplify the flavoring? If I were to make said delicious food, would it be less delicious?
Not to mention, I would venture to guess that any meal that a vegan can prepare....and I do mean ANY meal.... would still be better with a ribeye laid on top
I'd just like to know how I, an ex-professional cook am not able to obtain the sheer deliciosity of vegan food, considering I make a pretty damn fine raw "vegan" coconut cream pie. (Not actually vegan since I utilizing animal based products in my kitchen, even though there are none in this recipe.)0 -
Let's not forget the con of being a vegan is that you're going to get alot of dirty looks and people avoiding you. People think vegan and then think PETA and obnoxious people trying to control our food.
I don't think that's fair. PETA is far and away something else. In my personal experience, they're a domestic terror group.0 -
It can be confusing if you re considering a vegan lifestyle. One thing is everything dies. Even humans. Everyone on the planet is doing their own thing, what they think is best for them at the time. If you want to feel better and do your little part to leave the planet better for the next generation then go for vegan. So you have to take a little vitamin now and then. Its better than the other choices in the long run.
Wow. Way to insinuate that anyone not vegan is somehow a bad person who won't be able to make any sort of contribution to the betterment of mankind. And this^ is partly why people have bad opinions of vegans.If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
I've tried it and I don't feel that not being vegan is missing out. Nor do I think it's in any way accurate to say that vegan food is the most delicious food ever.0 -
Indeed. I'm currently having a nice shot of afternoon espressoCoffee or tea all around! I think we all (or almost all) will agree that coffee or tea is delicious. And, it's acceptable for any diet.
I've read that Dr Esselstyn no longer allows caffienated coffee on his diet, so that version of the vegan diet tut tuts it. I also intend to have some vegan chili later atop which I will be placing several yummy avocado slices, which some of the very-low-fat versions (Esselstyn, Ornish, McDougall, Barnard, etc) of the vegan diet that make health claims don't allow.
...and this is why I just eat a conventional vegan diet :-/0 -
LOL!!!If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
How is vegan food something that is unattainable for non-vegans?
Can one eat this delicious food only if vegan? Does vegan amplify the flavoring? If I were to make said delicious food, would it be less delicious?
I can see that you need some examples.
I don't know if I feel like posting a bunch of recipes. It's not like you make a non-vegan meal, then just leave out the meat/dairy from that meal. No. It's that you take foods (veggies, nuts, grains, seeds, fruits) and prepare them in ways that you probably had not thought or tasted before. It's really impressive cuisine! I've been posting a few vegan recipes on my wall lately, because I have a favorite raw vegan recipe book out lately.
Eating this way will really expand your menu choices.0 -
Honestly, I don't think that's where they were going with that, although frankly, it is pretty hyperbolic, divisive, and extreme if taken literally.Wow. Way to insinuate that anyone not vegan is somehow a bad person who won't be able to make any sort of contribution to the betterment of mankind. And this^ is partly why people have bad opinions of vegans.0 -
Well, I would probably concur, had I not been exposed to truly amazing vegan cuisine, about 10 years ago.It can be confusing if you re considering a vegan lifestyle. One thing is everything dies. Even humans. Everyone on the planet is doing their own thing, what they think is best for them at the time. If you want to feel better and do your little part to leave the planet better for the next generation then go for vegan. So you have to take a little vitamin now and then. Its better than the other choices in the long run.
Wow. Way to insinuate that anyone not vegan is somehow a bad person who won't be able to make any sort of contribution to the betterment of mankind. And this^ is partly why people have bad opinions of vegans.If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
I've tried it and I don't feel that not being vegan is missing out. Nor do I think it's in any way accurate to say that vegan food is the most delicious food ever.0 -
I can see that you need some examples.
Absolutely. I'm rather old hand at raw vegan, having done a lot of work with the in house recipe book from Cafe Gratitude in SF. I'm always open to unlocking flavor of a magnitude that my tastebuds cannot handle.
Any examples you'd like to gift would be excellent.0 -
LOL!!!If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
How is vegan food something that is unattainable for non-vegans?
Can one eat this delicious food only if vegan? Does vegan amplify the flavoring? If I were to make said delicious food, would it be less delicious?
I can see that you need some examples.
I don't know if I feel like posting a bunch of recipes. It's not like you make a non-vegan meal, then just leave out the meat/dairy from that meal. No. It's that you take foods (veggies, nuts, grains, seeds, fruits) and prepare them in ways that you probably had not thought or tasted before. It's really impressive cuisine! I've been posting a few vegan recipes on my wall lately, because I have a favorite raw vegan recipe book out lately.
Eating this way will really expand your menu choices.
As I said, as a meat eater, I can make all the recipes you want, but if I put a nice ribeye on top of it, it instantly becomes "better".0 -
Well share the recipe then!!!0
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Would a peanut butter and jam (US: Jelly) sandwich be better with a ribeye steak on it?
Also, she's right. Vegan food is the most delicious. Because Oreos.0 -
Great! I like rib eye, too. Although I seem to prefer cross-rib.
LOL!!!If you've not done it, your missing out!
It's the most delicious food you've EVER eaten!
Having said that, I lean toward vegetarianism, but have done raw vegan before...the best food ever ever ever.
BUT I really don't think it's a good idea to go long term. Eat some meat and raw dairy!
How is vegan food something that is unattainable for non-vegans?
Can one eat this delicious food only if vegan? Does vegan amplify the flavoring? If I were to make said delicious food, would it be less delicious?
I can see that you need some examples.
I don't know if I feel like posting a bunch of recipes. It's not like you make a non-vegan meal, then just leave out the meat/dairy from that meal. No. It's that you take foods (veggies, nuts, grains, seeds, fruits) and prepare them in ways that you probably had not thought or tasted before. It's really impressive cuisine! I've been posting a few vegan recipes on my wall lately, because I have a favorite raw vegan recipe book out lately.
Eating this way will really expand your menu choices.
As I said, as a meat eater, I can make all the recipes you want, but if I put a nice ribeye on top of it, it instantly becomes "better".0 -
Well share the recipe then!!!
I don't have vegan recipes. I am talking about your recipes that are the most amazing food ever. All those foods you ate that led you to believe that would be better with steak to a meat eater.0 -
Would a peanut butter and jam (US: Jelly) sandwich be better with a ribeye steak on it?
Also, she's right. Vegan food is the most delicious. Because Oreos.
Now i've addressed this. Jam and Jelly are two different things.
Jelly is made with juice and pectin. Jam is whole fruit. Bonus: Chutney is a relish.
That said, yes, peanut butter and fig jam + ribeye would probably blow your mind.
Then again, remove the rib eye and it would be just as good too. 0 -
I think for you, we will also need to serve a big glass of red wine!Well share the recipe then!!!
I don't have vegan recipes. I am talking about your recipes that are the most amazing food ever. All those foods you ate that led you to believe that would be better with steak to a meat eater.0
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