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  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    and yet, some of us can be in a consistent caloric deficit and not lose weight.

    if nutrition, fitness, and weight loss were truly all about the calories (because a calorie is nothing more than a unit of heat), we would be able to consume any material that's capable of burning and go on our merry way. but we can't. we're limited to things that are either protein, fat, or carbohydrate... and even then, there are things our bodies can't handle.

    personally, i'm waiting for the day when a genetic test becomes available to point out certain markers that show some people shed weight more easily and more readily, while others hang onto every calorie as if it were their last. since genetics determines everything else about us, it's ridiculous to think it has no bearing and that there's a one-size-fits-all solution to weight loss.

    there are already a host of medical conditions, prescription drugs, and vitamin deficiencies that have been shown to impede or even counteract attempts to lose weight. yet people still cling to that "calories in < calories out = weight loss" formula and refuse to acknowledge that anything else might be a factor.

    just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for me or anyone else. your mileage WILL vary.
    Just because you THINK your in a deficit doesn't mean that you are. The calories out is the most variable factor in the equation, some find it easily, some find it with time, and others can't find it and claim that calories in, calories out doesn't work.

    MFP says i'm in a caloric deficit. everything i eat is either weighed or pulled from published nutritional information and entered accordingly. my daily limit is set at within 100 calories of my BMR, and after daily exercise is figured in, my intake is actually below my BMR.

    this isn't a case of "THINK". this is a case of data.
    You're really going to let an online calculator determine how YOUR individual metabolism functions. Wow just wow

    then please, honestly... explain to me how any of us determine how our personal, individual metabolism functions. because right now, i'll be damned if i can get any answers out of my own body.

    i'm not trying to be snarky with this, but its a battle i've had all my life. if metabolism is unique to the individual, then so is their ability to lose weight.
    Trial, error and most importantly patience. That is how we did it before the internet. The online calculators are only a starting point and are not unique to the user.
  • Rhaynestorm
    Rhaynestorm Posts: 62 Member
    and yet, some of us can be in a consistent caloric deficit and not lose weight.

    if nutrition, fitness, and weight loss were truly all about the calories (because a calorie is nothing more than a unit of heat), we would be able to consume any material that's capable of burning and go on our merry way. but we can't. we're limited to things that are either protein, fat, or carbohydrate... and even then, there are things our bodies can't handle.

    personally, i'm waiting for the day when a genetic test becomes available to point out certain markers that show some people shed weight more easily and more readily, while others hang onto every calorie as if it were their last. since genetics determines everything else about us, it's ridiculous to think it has no bearing and that there's a one-size-fits-all solution to weight loss.

    there are already a host of medical conditions, prescription drugs, and vitamin deficiencies that have been shown to impede or even counteract attempts to lose weight. yet people still cling to that "calories in < calories out = weight loss" formula and refuse to acknowledge that anything else might be a factor.

    just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for me or anyone else. your mileage WILL vary.
    Just because you THINK your in a deficit doesn't mean that you are. The calories out is the most variable factor in the equation, some find it easily, some find it with time, and others can't find it and claim that calories in, calories out doesn't work.

    MFP says i'm in a caloric deficit. everything i eat is either weighed or pulled from published nutritional information and entered accordingly. my daily limit is set at within 100 calories of my BMR, and after daily exercise is figured in, my intake is actually below my BMR.

    this isn't a case of "THINK". this is a case of data.
    You're really going to let an online calculator determine how YOUR individual metabolism functions. Wow just wow

    then please, honestly... explain to me how any of us determine how our personal, individual metabolism functions. because right now, i'll be damned if i can get any answers out of my own body.

    i'm not trying to be snarky with this, but its a battle i've had all my life. if metabolism is unique to the individual, then so is their ability to lose weight.

    Have you tried bumping your calories down another 100 a day for a month and see what happens? Or how about bumping them up 100 a day for a month to see what happens? Sometimes you have to try different things because people are different.
  • Rhaynestorm
    Rhaynestorm Posts: 62 Member
    Stunning that a little thread about CHEESE has turned into yet another "it's just math" argument.

    That seems to be a trend lately
  • meridianova
    meridianova Posts: 438 Member
    then what the bleep are any of us doing here?

    it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to look at caloric counts of foods and be able to verify them with a quick glance at the nutritional data on the package.


    Which is what I do and I lose consistently close to predicted losses.

    I was politely answering your comment but as to your other claims, it is relatively simple, you are not eating at a deficit.

    We have established that you are a rocket surgeon as opposed to a plain old brain surgeon or using rocket science so inaccurate logging must be out of the question. I am sure you take into account the up to 20% inaccuracy of packet nutrition data. I am also sure you don't over estimate calories burned

    Therefore you may have a medical condition that affects your calories out part of the equation

    Which would mean

    You are not in deficit!

    that's it. i'm just not going to eat again. it seems to be the only answer that guarantees the holy deficit.
  • sistrsprkl
    sistrsprkl Posts: 1,010 Member
    I think 1 string cheese a day is just fine. I probably have about the same amount everyday but I've stopped buying brie because I love it too much and have a hard time limiting portion sizes.
  • DavidSTC
    DavidSTC Posts: 173 Member
    If it fits your macros and calorie budget, and you like it, then what's the problem? There's no inherent ingredient in cheese that makes your body stop losing weight. Personally I've stopped putting cheese on things that will swallow up the flavor so that you can't taste it...it's just added calories. But straight up cheese, or items which have cheese as a flavor feature, omg yes! So, I don't put cheese on my shredded chicken tacos, but I do put cheese on my hot ham and brie sammie.

    That's exactly how I approach cheese now. We should be MFP friends! Oh, wait. We are. :smile:
  • __freckles__
    __freckles__ Posts: 1,238 Member
    and yet, some of us can be in a consistent caloric deficit and not lose weight.

    if nutrition, fitness, and weight loss were truly all about the calories (because a calorie is nothing more than a unit of heat), we would be able to consume any material that's capable of burning and go on our merry way. but we can't. we're limited to things that are either protein, fat, or carbohydrate... and even then, there are things our bodies can't handle.

    personally, i'm waiting for the day when a genetic test becomes available to point out certain markers that show some people shed weight more easily and more readily, while others hang onto every calorie as if it were their last. since genetics determines everything else about us, it's ridiculous to think it has no bearing and that there's a one-size-fits-all solution to weight loss.

    there are already a host of medical conditions, prescription drugs, and vitamin deficiencies that have been shown to impede or even counteract attempts to lose weight. yet people still cling to that "calories in < calories out = weight loss" formula and refuse to acknowledge that anything else might be a factor.

    just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for me or anyone else. your mileage WILL vary.
    Just because you THINK your in a deficit doesn't mean that you are. The calories out is the most variable factor in the equation, some find it easily, some find it with time, and others can't find it and claim that calories in, calories out doesn't work.

    MFP says i'm in a caloric deficit. everything i eat is either weighed or pulled from published nutritional information and entered accordingly. my daily limit is set at within 100 calories of my BMR, and after daily exercise is figured in, my intake is actually below my BMR.

    this isn't a case of "THINK". this is a case of data.
    You're really going to let an online calculator determine how YOUR individual metabolism functions. Wow just wow

    then please, honestly... explain to me how any of us determine how our personal, individual metabolism functions. because right now, i'll be damned if i can get any answers out of my own body.

    i'm not trying to be snarky with this, but its a battle i've had all my life. if metabolism is unique to the individual, then so is their ability to lose weight.

    Can you open up your diary so we can take a looksie?

    P.S. Eating cheese right now.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    and yet, some of us can be in a consistent caloric deficit and not lose weight.
    There is literally no such person. It is physically impossible.

    hi there. i am that person. unless you'd like to argue that either the information on MFP is ridiculously wrong, or my scale is slowly weighing heavier and heavier.
    No. You aren't. If you are gaining weight, you're eating more calories than you're burning. It's as simple as that.
  • AllOutof_Bubblegum
    AllOutof_Bubblegum Posts: 3,646 Member
    If it fits your calorie goal, eat the cheese.
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    I love cheese to the the extent that if cheese tasting was a job, I may consider a career change. I just make sure to eat it in small amounts and fit it into my calories. I do eat it every day, and I am losing just fine. Pro tip: feta cheese has fewer calories than most other cheeses, and a little bit goes a long way due to it's strong flavor.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Stunning that a little thread about CHEESE has turned into yet another "it's just math" argument.

    That seems to be a trend lately
    For virtually every thread. Then the OP disappears, and everyone wonders why.
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    Cheese is a great snack for dieting. Fat doesn't make you fat. Don't worry about the cheese (within your calories and as part of a balanced diet).
    This!

    I've eaten cheese all through my weight loss, and I still eat it - as a snack (great with sliced apples!), on tacos, burgers, pizza, sandwiches, etc.

    Eat the foods you like, just fit them into your goals, unless you're planning to give them up for the rest of your life. :smile:
  • EDollah
    EDollah Posts: 464 Member
    I'm responding directly to the OP, I haven't read any posts afterward, so apologies if I'm sidelining any current discussion.

    This is a topic very close to me. I consider myself a devoted turophile and eliminating cheese was never an option. So, I'm not sure what my ticker says today, but the one constant over the 16 months since I started this fitness effort is that I've had cheese every damn day. Typically 1 oz, sometimes 1.5 oz, but never 0.

    Some days I find I'm a little behind on my fat macros. Guess what can help get me there... cheese! Other days I may need a little protein boost. Cheese to the rescue! Sometimes, I'm behind on both. You can probably guess by now how I go about solving that problem.

    So no OP, don't cut out cheese. Enjoy!
  • Candi_land
    Candi_land Posts: 1,311 Member
    I do not want to live in a world where cheese exists, but is not in my mouth.

    I eat cheese everyday OP and it has not hindered my weight loss progress in the slightest. Portion it out so it fits within your macros and you'll be fine.
  • cingle87
    cingle87 Posts: 717 Member
    I eat cheese pretty much every day and I'm doing fine, one word of advice please stay away from the low cal/low fat cheese, go hard or go home.
  • chadya07
    chadya07 Posts: 627 Member
    i just feel i must throw this in there.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxqycijBUn0

    if i knew how to post a GIF i would.
  • lauranelson779
    lauranelson779 Posts: 18 Member
    Cheese, my other lover. And my enemy

    Seriously, I had to cut it out completey do to migraines (and chocolate, and wine. And hotdogs. Life sucks). Since then I have not gained or lost more weight. I'm only sadder (although I am migraine free,) In conclusion, cheese did not hinder my weight loss. So eat cheese and be happy as long as it fits into your calories.
  • Maleficent0241
    Maleficent0241 Posts: 386 Member

    then please, honestly... explain to me how any of us determine how our personal, individual metabolism functions. because right now, i'll be damned if i can get any answers out of my own body.

    i'm not trying to be snarky with this, but its a battle i've had all my life. if metabolism is unique to the individual, then so is their ability to lose weight.

    Get your RMR tested if you really want to know. I sure as hell did. I was one of those in which the equations didn't work. Well, they did until I started on a medication cocktail, and then I started gaining at a calorie level that previously had me losing. I was not a medical marvel, the medications simply shifted my metabolism enough that a very small deficit became a surplus.

    NO ONE loses weight if they aren't in a deficit, and NO ONE gains it if they are. It's impossible. When people think they are defying the laws of physics it's a matter of online equations not accounting for the fact that the "calories out" side is potentially vastly different than what is predicted.

    And OP, eat the cheese. Yum.
  • mtruitt01
    mtruitt01 Posts: 370 Member
    I'll try to post it for you...
    watch?v=GxqycijBUn0
    guess not!!
  • Cortelli
    Cortelli Posts: 1,369 Member
    I love cheese to the the extent that if cheese tasting was a job, I may consider a career change.

    It is indeed a job! However, the employers-to-job seekers ratio is kinda off the charts.

    I have been diligently looking for one of either a cheese taster / cured meats taster / wine taster job for some time now. The openings are few and far in between, and the employers appear to demand some sort of specialized skill beyond loving the subjects of the tastings. And the pay sucks for most. But the work environment / fringe benefits are exceptional.:drinker:
  • judychicken
    judychicken Posts: 937 Member
    I love cheese Babybel Gouda with a fruit is a great snack.

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