1200 cal is NOT enough
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I said "1200 calories isnt like a universal number that is meant for everyone"
You also said:
(or anyone really)
:laugh: Busted.
The sad thing is, you'd get a lot of agreement on this topic, OP, if you hadn't come off so belligerent. Although there would also be a lot of 'seen this thread too many times' reactions.
If you have a friendslist full of people with eating disorders, I sympathize, but most people want to eat as many calories as we can while actually still losing weight. Most of us didn't get fat by hating food.
Agree!!
I mostly agree with you Op, but the way you went about it, well.......not very good.
I believe a lot people should be eating way more then 1200 calories, but there are a few who are can do 1200.
I am 45 yrs old and 5'2, right now I'm trying to lose the last few pounds so I am doing 1600-1800 calories.
I have tried 1200 calories and could not do it without having binging issues because I was so hungry and than I started reading more about eating more to lose. Thankful to those "mean people" for putting all those links up for people to read. :drinker:
I have said repeatedly that I took back what I said. I apologized. I agree with it being okay for some people. I am sorry for the way it comes off to people! Good luck with your weight loss0 -
I actually agree with you! For me, I tried 1200 calories a day to "jump start" my weight loss and it has had the opposite effect. I want to eat all the time, no matter how much protein I get, and I feel utterly defeated because I haven't lost weight at that level. I went and calculated my TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) and it was almost 2500 calories. ANYTHING under that and I will lose weight. Based on the calculator I used I need to eat approximately 1500 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week, which is healthy. I am a woman who is 5'5", 313 lbs, and 45 years old. I do weight training 3 days a week. I've upped my calories and am having more success. Down 38 pounds so far! Yay me!0
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Don't tell me how to live my life! :sad:0
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I am not saying its wrong for everyone though! If it works for you and is enough for you, great.
I do appreciate you clarifying that in your earlier posts. You posted a hot topic because this is not a new debate on MFP, and some will insist that there is never any instance where people can safely eat that little and will say, "Only three feet tall people eat that little, everyone else is putting in that they are trying to lose 2 lbs a week." Nah. My # for MFP is 1200 no matter what I put in, and my fitbit number is lower sometimes. 1200 already sucks, so when people (not you, you have clarified) things that aren't true, wounds get a little salty.
Thank you and I really am sorry everyone! Good Luck to you all with your weightloss/fitness goals0 -
Don't tell me how to live my life! :sad:
IM SORRY I AM A BAD PERSON0 -
I agree and disagree. Mine is currently set at 1270 on days I'm not exercising. I have been going over a little this week. However, I'd rather see me go a little over when it's set at 1270, than go a little over at 1500 or 1800. If your body is truly hungry, then feed it. I also agree with the fact that we're in this together, but on our own journeys. Let's support, not tear down. Have a wonderful Saturday!0
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I actually agree with you! For me, I tried 1200 calories a day to "jump start" my weight loss and it has had the opposite effect. I want to eat all the time, no matter how much protein I get, and I feel utterly defeated because I haven't lost weight at that level. I went and calculated my TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) and it was almost 2500 calories. ANYTHING under that and I will lose weight. Based on the calculator I used I need to eat approximately 1500 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week, which is healthy. I am a woman who is 5'5", 313 lbs, and 45 years old. I do weight training 3 days a week. I've upped my calories and am having more success. Down 38 pounds so far! Yay me!
YAYY! I'm so proud of you!! Congratulations0 -
How do you know your TDEE? Does MFP calculate it for us?0
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I agree and disagree. Mine is currently set at 1270 on days I'm not exercising. I have been going over a little this week. However, I'd rather see me go a little over when it's set at 1270, than go a little over at 1500 or 1800. If your body is truly hungry, then feed it. I also agree with the fact that we're in this together, but on our own journeys. Let's support, not tear down. Have a wonderful Saturday!
Yes! Agreed0 -
How do you know your TDEE? Does MFP calculate it for us?
No I just google it or go to the website
http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/0 -
Don't tell me how to live my life! :sad:
IM SORRY I AM A BAD PERSON
Haha. I don't eat 1200. :P It didn't work for me. Before I got pregnant again I ate about 2300...netting around 1700.0 -
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Thanks!0
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Her post could've been worded a little nicer, but I agree with some of what she stated. There are far too many people on this site (not saying everyone since there are some that eat 1,200 that are either immobile, had weight loss surgery, or have other medical reasons) & in general that still think the magical number to eat to lose weight is 1,200 calories when they can clearly eat a lot more & still lose weight at a decent rate.
What always gets me are the people who go on & on about not being able to eat 1,200 calories & usually it's people who have a lot of weight left to lose. They didn't gain all of that weight from just eating 1,200 calories a day or less.0 -
The OP is right. All these people disagreeing with her for all the wrong reasons. Some of you saying "im fine on 1200 calories" You are damaging your body. Like the OP said, figure out your bmr and tdee. If you cant lose on more than 1200 calories then you are eating more than you think.
Exactly. Someone understands it.
You kept backpedaling and saying "oh it might work for SOME people," but then you said that, which completely trashed that notion.0 -
The OP is right. All these people disagreeing with her for all the wrong reasons. Some of you saying "im fine on 1200 calories" You are damaging your body. Like the OP said, figure out your bmr and tdee. If you cant lose on more than 1200 calories then you are eating more than you think.
Exactly. Someone understands it.
You kept backpedaling and saying "oh it might work for SOME people," but then you said that, which completely trashed that notion.
How? I'm saying calculate your TDEE. If 1200 is enough then eat it. if not then its a waste of time and damaging.0 -
OP, you come off as a snotty know-it-all teenager in your post. That said, people really do sabotage themselves by trying to eat too little and then either ending up exhausted and drained or so hungry that they binge and give up. Better to eat a little more and keep the scale moving down than try to maximize your weight loss and fail in the end.
If you really want to be a nutritionist for a living though, you might want to work on your manners. If I went to someone with that kind of attitude, no matter how "right" they are, I would get up and leave and tell other people not to bother going to them.0 -
imagine that.. a 19 year old that already knows it all
A 19 year old going to school to be a Nutritionist knows something about nutrition, wow imagine that!
When school starts I will let ya know.
Or you started and it's summer vacation?
I took a short course last year, but the actual classes and stuff doesn't start for another month.
I mean, is it really that hard to know it isnt for everyone? You don't have to take a class in nutrition to know 1200 isnt for everyone. I understand it is for other people.0 -
The OP is right. All these people disagreeing with her for all the wrong reasons. Some of you saying "im fine on 1200 calories" You are damaging your body. Like the OP said, figure out your bmr and tdee. If you cant lose on more than 1200 calories then you are eating more than you think.
Exactly. Someone understands it.
You kept backpedaling and saying "oh it might work for SOME people," but then you said that, which completely trashed that notion.
How? I'm saying calculate your TDEE. If 1200 is enough then eat it. if not then its a waste of time and damaging
I figured you were agreeing with the poster's idea that only people overeating accidentally can sustain on 1200 (the last sentence).0 -
OP, you come off as a snotty know-it-all teenager in your post. That said, people really do sabotage themselves by trying to eat too little and then either ending up exhausted and drained or so hungry that they binge and give up. Better to eat a little more and keep the scale moving down than try to maximize your weight loss and fail in the end.
If you really want to be a nutritionist for a living though, you might want to work on your manners. If I went to someone with that kind of attitude, no matter how "right" they are, I would get up and leave and tell other people not to bother going to them.
I apologized multiple times about how I came off, I realize how it sounded.0 -
You are absolutely correct. For long-term life style changes, you have to calculate! Recommend reading Fat 2 Fit.0
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The OP is right. All these people disagreeing with her for all the wrong reasons. Some of you saying "im fine on 1200 calories" You are damaging your body. Like the OP said, figure out your bmr and tdee. If you cant lose on more than 1200 calories then you are eating more than you think.
Exactly. Someone understands it.
You kept backpedaling and saying "oh it might work for SOME people," but then you said that, which completely trashed that notion.
How? I'm saying calculate your TDEE. If 1200 is enough then eat it. if not then its a waste of time and damaging
I figured you were agreeing with the poster's idea that only people overeating accidentally can sustain on 1200 (the last sentence).
Oh wow, I completely misread the last sentence. oops:(0 -
As entertaining as this has been, maybe we should start debating something else.0
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Agree. I learned this the hard way just this week actually.
So when I started I thought my limit was 1200-1400 including exercise. I'm 5'2 and have 60 to lose so I thought that was fairly typical. Wrong.
I lost 17 lbs over 60 days... then I just stopped losing. My logging was on point, my exercise had actually ramped up to 5 days a week of heavy cardio (intervals, spinning and weight training mixed in as well) and yet I stopped dropping weight for almost three weeks. I was beyond frustrated. I also felt really shaky during my body pump sessions. So much so that I felt like I was going to drop the weights. I knew something was up.
I was thinking of making an appointment to see my doctor for suggestions. Beforehand, I did some research by browsing forum posts on MFP of people who ran into the same problem. They all had one thing in common. They weren't eating enough. So last week I up'd my intake to 1850 a day. It's still a larger deficit than recommended but I generally net 1200 a day now, if not more (my net before was 600-800). This week I lost over half a pound (during a woman's worst time of the month, btw) and I was able to increase my weights. I'm sure I'll see more of a loss after this week. I was unknowingly scaring my body into slowing down to prevent starvation.
Everyone is different though. I just don't see how getting fit on 1200 a day is possible. I could barely lift my weights. :ohwell:
EDIT - A lot of people are getting defensive about their 1200 calorie diets. If it works then stick with it. But for people doing strenuous exercises I honestly don't think it works and OP is right. If you're only walking 30 minutes a day and you're under 5'4, then it's probably fine. I think her post was targeted more at people like me who really weren't eating enough based on their activity. ITT: People taking things on the interwebz personally.0 -
Huh, well I'll let my certified diabetes educator, who is also a registered dietician with the Cleveland Clinic, know that she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about then, because she has me on 1,200 calories a day, and I am not to eat back my exercise calories. Perhaps you should educate yourself before you go spouting off about these things, as you clearly do not know it all.0
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Huh, well I'll let my certified diabetes educator, who is also a registered dietician with the Cleveland Clinic, know that she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about then, because she has me on 1,200 calories a day, and I am not to eat back my exercise calories. Perhaps you should educate yourself before you go spouting off about these things, as you clearly do not know it all.
Perhaps you should read how I corrected myself. For MOST.
SOME people can do it.0 -
As entertaining as this has been, maybe we should start debating something else.
I agree.0 -
Huh, well I'll let my certified diabetes educator, who is also a registered dietician with the Cleveland Clinic, know that she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about then, because she has me on 1,200 calories a day, and I am not to eat back my exercise calories. Perhaps you should educate yourself before you go spouting off about these things, as you clearly do not know it all.
Perhaps you should read how I corrected myself. For MOST.
SOME people can do it.
EDIT: (Although I would be a little hesitant to agree with 1200 calories AND a net lower than that? I mean trust your dietitian. She clearly knows more than I do. :-*)0 -
I actually agree with you! For me, I tried 1200 calories a day to "jump start" my weight loss and it has had the opposite effect. I want to eat all the time, no matter how much protein I get, and I feel utterly defeated because I haven't lost weight at that level. I went and calculated my TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) and it was almost 2500 calories. ANYTHING under that and I will lose weight. Based on the calculator I used I need to eat approximately 1500 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week, which is healthy. I am a woman who is 5'5", 313 lbs, and 45 years old. I do weight training 3 days a week. I've upped my calories and am having more success. Down 38 pounds so far! Yay me!
I see you are losing your way - you go girl0 -
I actually agree with you! For me, I tried 1200 calories a day to "jump start" my weight loss and it has had the opposite effect. I want to eat all the time, no matter how much protein I get, and I feel utterly defeated because I haven't lost weight at that level. I went and calculated my TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) and it was almost 2500 calories. ANYTHING under that and I will lose weight. Based on the calculator I used I need to eat approximately 1500 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week, which is healthy. I am a woman who is 5'5", 313 lbs, and 45 years old. I do weight training 3 days a week. I've upped my calories and am having more success. Down 38 pounds so far! Yay me!
Maybe you should try one of the ADF's. I use EODD* but was bashed by management (and now have one strike against me) for suggesting it - but you could look up the JUDDD group here which is the exact same eating plan and is apparently okay to suggest - Go figure???
Anyway it works great and is really easy for me
*Every Other Day Diet
written by Krista Varady, Ph.D. and Bill Gottlieb, CHC
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/06/08/alternate-day-fasting.aspx
Why would she do that plan? She's having great success losing now.
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