1200 cal is NOT enough

That was my point so how are you contradicting me? Basically what I am trying to say is that most people should not be eating so little, especially people around my height and weight.

Kind of weird that MFP is 'wrong' or even dangerous for 98% of users yet still manages this: "MyFitnessPal received an overall satisfaction score of 83 and top marks for maintenance, calorie awareness, and food variety."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/consumer-reports-rates-diet-plans-myfitnesspal-a-free-app-and-website-more-satisfying-than-weight-watchers-185440082.html

And that's because people have tweaked the numbers to make it work. Tell me why 1200 is good for a 28 yr old woman who is 180 and 5'8 and ALSO good for a 5'1, 60 yr old 130 lbs woman?? One size fits all? Sorry but your argument fails because you don't know exactly what each person is doing or how they are using the site. A lot of people use the TDEE -20% method.

Kind of weird that MFP is 'wrong' or even dangerous for 98% of users yet still manages this: "MyFitnessPal received an overall satisfaction score of 83 and top marks for maintenance, calorie awareness, and food variety."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/consumer-reports-rates-diet-plans-myfitnesspal-a-free-app-and-website-more-satisfying-than-weight-watchers-185440082.html

And that's because people have tweaked the numbers to make it work. Tell me why 1200 is good for a 28 yr old woman who is 180 and 5'8 and ALSO good for a 5'1, 60 yr old 130 lbs woman?? One size fits all? Sorry but your argument fails because you don't know exactly what each person is doing or how they are using the site. A lot of people use the TDEE -20% method.

Not getting your point? MFP doesn't say 1200 is right for both those people at all.
If they both put their stats into the calculator with the correct lose rate for the amount they have to lose,they would get given different calorie limits - as they would if they did TDEE method via another calculator.

If people are using the calculator incorrectly or calculating via other methods, how is this a failing of MFP and how does it alter fact MFP does not recommend below 1200 for anybody ( but recommends higher for many )?

That isn't true. If you select to lose 2 or more pounds per week, MFP almost invariably gives you 1200 calories. Most people, regardless of how much they want to lose, will put 2 lbs as a default.

Kind of weird that MFP is 'wrong' or even dangerous for 98% of users yet still manages this: "MyFitnessPal received an overall satisfaction score of 83 and top marks for maintenance, calorie awareness, and food variety."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/consumer-reports-rates-diet-plans-myfitnesspal-a-free-app-and-website-more-satisfying-than-weight-watchers-185440082.html

And that's because people have tweaked the numbers to make it work. Tell me why 1200 is good for a 28 yr old woman who is 180 and 5'8 and ALSO good for a 5'1, 60 yr old 130 lbs woman?? One size fits all? Sorry but your argument fails because you don't know exactly what each person is doing or how they are using the site. A lot of people use the TDEE -20% method.

Not getting your point? MFP doesn't say 1200 is right for both those people at all.
If they both put their stats into the calculator with the correct lose rate for the amount they have to lose,they would get given different calorie limits - as they would if they did TDEE method via another calculator.

If people are using the calculator incorrectly or calculating via other methods, how is this a failing of MFP and how does it alter fact MFP does not recommend below 1200 for anybody ( but recommends higher for many )?

That isn't true. If you select to lose 2 or more pounds per week, MFP almost invariably gives you 1200 calories. Most people, regardless of how much they want to lose, will put 2 lbs as a default.

Yes but as I said that is user error, not fault of the program.
I said their stats "with the correct loss rate for the amount you have to lose"


BTW, I never put 2lb as my loss rate - I had it on 1/2 lb from the beginning.

Sorry but your argument fails because you don't know exactly what each person is doing or how they are using the site. A lot of people use the TDEE -20% method.

I suspect the Consumer Reports survey respondents were referring to the MFP plan, not some forum variation or scooby or IIFYM plan.

I think the vast majority of MFP users never bother with the forums at all. Which is smart, given the high level of bad information here. It gets better all the time but it's still a hotbed of myth and fear and nonsense.