when is too big?
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So every guy with huge traps is dumb/unintelligent?
Something tells me the guy being jacked isn't the problem here....
That's not what I said. But there is such a thing as looking like you're probably more stupid than everyone else in the room, though. Whether you are in fact a stupid person is besides the point since this is asking about how people look, not how they are "inside" once you get to know them.
Like my example about the guy who looks like he is posing, it makes me think they are probably vain. Whether they are in fact a vain person is besides the point.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how in the world does a person's body determine if they're intelligent or not? How does the amount of visible muscle one has make you think they're less intelligent?
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
MFP forum never fails. BTW your picture is a avatar what can we assume about you?0 -
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
Okay. What I got out of this is:
- People who breathe with their mouth open are dumb
- People with muscles are dumb
- People with small heads are dumb
Does that about sum it up?:huh:0 -
Because most workplaces have written policies that spell out what is and what is not appropriate. Establishments such as restaurants do as well. Dressing too revleaing for a given situation sends a message of sex and I don't care if you're male or female. If you dress in a very revealing way, you're advertising sex. I do it myself when in certain situations as I stated before. But having big boobs or big muscles doesn't make the person look like a bimbo. Dressing scantily does.
The workplace. Because dressing in a revealing manner is not always acceptable. Trust me, I wear as little cloting as possible myself whenever I can get away with it too but there are situations where it's not acceptable. If I go to a nice restaurant with shorts, flip flops, and a stringer tank on I expect to not get served or even asked to leave. lol
But what is deemed "inappropriate"? And what occasion would dressing in such a way be deemed that (aside from say a funeral. I'm not including weddings because not all weddings are formal and stuffy)? And again, why would that make said person a bimbo?
And again, why does that make the person a bimbo?0 -
So every guy with huge traps is dumb/unintelligent?
Something tells me the guy being jacked isn't the problem here....
That's not what I said. But there is such a thing as looking like you're probably more stupid than everyone else in the room, though. Whether you are in fact a stupid person is besides the point since this is asking about how people look, not how they are "inside" once you get to know them.
Like my example about the guy who looks like he is posing, it makes me think they are probably vain. Whether they are in fact a vain person is besides the point.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how in the world does a person's body determine if they're intelligent or not? How does the amount of visible muscle one has make you think they're less intelligent?
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
MFP forum never fails. BTW your picture is a avatar what can we assume about you?
I've had colleagues who played professional sports before law school. I guess they were just dumb jocks, huh? The whiners who think being good at one thing automatically excludes being good at another need to spend some time around type A personalities.0 -
Profile picture not withstanding...
Do you have any idea how hard it is to hide big books enough to be considered appropriate by some people's standards? I could wear the same thing as a smaller chested woman and people will assume I am sluttier. Or the same thing ands a fatter woman who also has large breasts... and I'm still sluttier because I'm thinner. But it's not like you can wear a turtle neck year round. And those are often pretty form fitting... so you can guess what some people think about that.
Not appropriate for the office, but probably great for a night out:
Appropriate for any situation and she has big boobs.
I'd have to agree.0 -
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
Okay. What I got out of this is:
- People who breathe with their mouth open are dumb
- People with muscles are dumb
- People with small heads are dumb
Does that about sum it up?:huh:
No, it doesn't. Looking dumb and being dumb are not the same thing. Are you dumb? You seem dumb.
Reported :flowerforyou:0 -
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
Okay. What I got out of this is:
- People who breathe with their mouth open are dumb
- People with muscles are dumb
- People with small heads are dumb
Does that about sum it up?:huh:
No, it doesn't. Looking dumb and being dumb are not the same thing. Are you dumb? You seem dumb.
Reported :flowerforyou:
Reporting me because you set up a strawman. Good character you have too.0 -
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
Okay. What I got out of this is:
- People who breathe with their mouth open are dumb
- People with muscles are dumb
- People with small heads are dumb
Does that about sum it up?:huh:
No, it doesn't. Looking dumb and being dumb are not the same thing. Are you dumb? You seem dumb.
Reported :flowerforyou:
Reporting me because you set up a strawman. Good character you have too.
No, reported you because you blatantly attacked me by calling me dumb.
I didn't set up a straw man. I summarized pretty much what you were saying. Sorry that you couldn't take the truth.0 -
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
Okay. What I got out of this is:
- People who breathe with their mouth open are dumb
- People with muscles are dumb
- People with small heads are dumb
Does that about sum it up?:huh:
No, it doesn't. Looking dumb and being dumb are not the same thing. Are you dumb? You seem dumb.
Reported :flowerforyou:
Reporting me because you set up a strawman. Good character you have too.
No, reported you because you blatantly attacked me by calling me dumb.
I didn't set up a straw man. I summarized pretty much what you were saying. Sorry that you couldn't take the truth.
It was a strawman. I explicitly stated it was about how people look and not how they are. You ignored that and set up a strawman. I was being charitable by calling you dumb, when what you did was in fact dishonest.0 -
Lourdesong so what can we assume about this person?
BTW the no profile pic with what you wrote in your profile. . . .0 -
So long as a guy is taller than me, he can be as big (muscularly) as he wants. It comes down to BF% for me.
I dated a guy once who didn't have anything to squeeze (stopit). When I laid on his chest, it was like laying on a rock. That wasn't fun.0 -
Lourdesong so what can we assume about this person?
BTW the no profile pic with what you wrote in your profile. . . .
You are free to assume whatever you like. If I make a thread asking what you think as the OP did, then that's a good clue that I'd be interested in what you think.0 -
In for insulting people (and their intelligence) based on physical appearance.0
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It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
Okay. What I got out of this is:
- People who breathe with their mouth open are dumb
- People with muscles are dumb
- People with small heads are dumb
Does that about sum it up?:huh:
No, it doesn't. Looking dumb and being dumb are not the same thing. Are you dumb? You seem dumb.
Reported :flowerforyou:
Reporting me because you set up a strawman. Good character you have too.
No, reported you because you blatantly attacked me by calling me dumb.
I didn't set up a straw man. I summarized pretty much what you were saying. Sorry that you couldn't take the truth.
It was a strawman. I explicitly stated it was about how people look and not how they are. You ignored that and set up a strawman. I was being charitable by calling you dumb, when what you did was in fact dishonest.
But by assuming someone is dumb based on their appearance is just as wrong as saying they're dumb and, well, it's pretty much the same thing. How? Well because you're drawing an assumption based on how they look and with that assumption you probably wouldn't take the time to get to know the person because you've already made a decision about their intelligence and more than likely wouldn't even waste your time talking to them or getting to know them based on their appearance.0 -
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Lourdesong so what can we assume about this person?
BTW the no profile pic with what you wrote in your profile. . . .
You are free to assume whatever you like. If I make a thread asking what you think as the OP did, then that's a good clue that I'd be interested in what you think.
So being a mouth breather and big traps correlates to being stupid. That what the OP was asking right?0 -
Lourdesong so what can we assume about this person?
BTW the no profile pic with what you wrote in your profile. . . .
You are free to assume whatever you like. If I make a thread asking what you think as the OP did, then that's a good clue that I'd be interested in what you think.
If I didn't know better I'd say I smell butt hurt and self esteem issues.0 -
Lourdesong so what can we assume about this person?
BTW the no profile pic with what you wrote in your profile. . . .
You are free to assume whatever you like. If I make a thread asking what you think as the OP did, then that's a good clue that I'd be interested in what you think.
If I didn't know better I'd say I smell butt hurt and self esteem issues.
To say the least. But I should not assume so I only have words to go by since the profile pic is some cartoon. No assumption being made on my end.0 -
My head is smaller than it used to be. I can almost feel those IQ points melting away into a puddle at my feet.0
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Lourdesong so what can we assume about this person?
BTW the no profile pic with what you wrote in your profile. . . .
You are free to assume whatever you like. If I make a thread asking what you think as the OP did, then that's a good clue that I'd be interested in what you think.
If I didn't know better I'd say I smell butt hurt and self esteem issues.
I was here earlier if that's what you're saying, but I like to think that my personal grooming habits ensure there is no lingering aroma.
With love,
Burt0 -
To me, it's all about the individual as a whole.
I was previously married to a body builder who is still winning in his class competition at age 60, and then to a man whose belly sometimes looked as if he were 7 months pregnant. The body builder and I "grew apart" and didn't have sex for years. The guy with the belly, I absolutely couldn't keep my hands off of because I was so in love with him at any size.
Every woman will have a different opinion and a different preference... the trick is finding the right woman for you. :flowerforyou:0 -
It doesn't determine if they are intelligent or not and I never claimed it did. Neither does being a mouth-breather determine if someone is intelligent or not. But will it have an effect on their aesthetic and the impression they make? I think so. And that's what this thread was asking about. Aesthetics, not who people really are inside.
A small head relative to the neck just tends to make people look... dumber. Fat people too, and muscular women, not just men who work out. Just as being a mouth-breather tends to make people look dumber than those who aren't mouth-breathers.
Okay. What I got out of this is:
- People who breathe with their mouth open are dumb
- People with muscles are dumb
- People with small heads are dumb
Does that about sum it up?:huh:
No, it doesn't. Looking dumb and being dumb are not the same thing. Are you dumb? You seem dumb.
Reported :flowerforyou:
Reporting me because you set up a strawman. Good character you have too.
No, reported you because you blatantly attacked me by calling me dumb.
I didn't set up a straw man. I summarized pretty much what you were saying. Sorry that you couldn't take the truth.
It was a strawman. I explicitly stated it was about how people look and not how they are. You ignored that and set up a strawman. I was being charitable by calling you dumb, when what you did was in fact dishonest.
But by assuming someone is dumb based on their appearance is just as wrong as saying they're dumb and, well, it's pretty much the same thing. How? Well because you're drawing an assumption based on how they look and with that assumption you probably wouldn't take the time to get to know the person because you've already made a decision about their intelligence and more than likely wouldn't even waste your time talking to them or getting to know them based on their appearance.
Thinking someone looks dumb is not the same thing as assuming they are dumb. You are making that assumption here, you have to for your argument against me to work.
Thinking someone looks smart is not the same thing as assuming they are smart, right?
Why? Because it doesn't follow from one being smart-looking or stupid-looking that one is therefore smart or therefore stupid. And I never claimed it did. In fact, I explicitly stated it did not. You seem to be arguing it does in fact follow. That if I think someone is stupid-looking I therefore think that someone is stupid, and it therefore follow from this that I am a jerk. You are setting up this flow of logic, not me.0 -
Lourdesong so what can we assume about this person?
BTW the no profile pic with what you wrote in your profile. . . .
You are free to assume whatever you like. If I make a thread asking what you think as the OP did, then that's a good clue that I'd be interested in what you think.
If I didn't know better I'd say I smell butt hurt and self esteem issues.
To say the least. But I should not assume so I only have words to go by since the profile pic is some cartoon. No assumption being made on my end.
I didn't make any comment about anyone's avatar. Your seeming "tit-for-tat" comments in respect to my little cartoon avatar tells me that you must think that I made a comment about someone's avatar or worse... about you personally.0 -
When the traps are too big, when the neck is wider than the head.I didn't make any comment about anyone's avatar. Your seeming "tit-for-tat" comments in respect to my little cartoon avatar tells me that you must think that I made a comment about someone's avatar or worse... about you personally.
When it looks like the guy is posing no matter how he stands.
Basically, whatever makes me think that a guy is dumb/unintelligent (small pea-head relative to neck/traps) or is vain (poses).
That the comment you made that started most of the comments after that one. That makes people look dumb in your mind right? So when people see a weight loss site that has a range of body types. Seeing someone not willing to put out there picture you do not think people wonder. Especially with your above comments. The first two comments were ok. It is that last part.0 -
When the traps are too big, when the neck is wider than the head.I didn't make any comment about anyone's avatar. Your seeming "tit-for-tat" comments in respect to my little cartoon avatar tells me that you must think that I made a comment about someone's avatar or worse... about you personally.
When it looks like the guy is posing no matter how he stands.
Basically, whatever makes me think that a guy is dumb/unintelligent (small pea-head relative to neck/traps) or is vain (poses).
That the comment you made that started most of the comments after that one. That make people look dumb in you mind right? So when people see a weight loss site that was a range of body types. Seeing someone not willing to put out there picture you do not think people wonder. Especially with your above comments. The first two comments were ok. It is that last part.
Yes, look dumb. Look vain. The op asked about our preferences, I stated mine and why I don't like it. I wasn't aware I needed to provide a picture for people to then comment on... especially given that I wasn't commenting on anyone's picture, not yours or anyone else's. I was answering a question that asked about preferences on physical appearance, and I don't think my preferences were malicious in the least, and no one has made a case that it was apart from setting up strawmen. You took what I said very personally, clearly, and seem upset that I don't have a picture to take out some vindictive aggression on.0 -
When the traps are too big, when the neck is wider than the head.I didn't make any comment about anyone's avatar. Your seeming "tit-for-tat" comments in respect to my little cartoon avatar tells me that you must think that I made a comment about someone's avatar or worse... about you personally.
When it looks like the guy is posing no matter how he stands.
Basically, whatever makes me think that a guy is dumb/unintelligent (small pea-head relative to neck/traps) or is vain (poses).
That the comment you made that started most of the comments after that one. That make people look dumb in you mind right? So when people see a weight loss site that was a range of body types. Seeing someone not willing to put out there picture you do not think people wonder. Especially with your above comments. The first two comments were ok. It is that last part.
Yes, look dumb. Look vain. The op asked about our preferences, I stated mine and why I don't like it. I wasn't aware I needed to provide a picture for people to then comment on... especially given that I wasn't commenting on anyone's picture, not yours or anyone else's. I was answering a question that asked about preferences on physical appearance, and I don't think my preferences were malicious in the least, and no one has made a case that it was apart from setting up strawmen. You took what I said very personally, clearly, and seem upset that I don't have a picture to take out some vindictive aggression on.
You do realize that not putting up a picture can say a lot more. I really do not care about your comment. It does not sway my goal in anyway whatsoever. I was just getting you to see that you are passing judgement.0 -
Someone is looking a little green with envy.0
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All that matters here is that he is *hard*.0
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You do realize that not putting up a picture can say a lot more. I really do not care about your comment. It does not sway my goal in anyway whatsoever. I was just getting you to see that you are passing judgement.
Uh, I wasn't trying to sway your goal. (??) And the cartoon is just something I put up so I wouldn't have the blank grey box. I may put up a real picture in the future, but I fail to see why I should be compelled to to do so just because I posted on a thread requesting preferences about physical appearance. I also still fail to see the relevance of my picture or lackthereof in this thread/conversation. Other than, as I said before, you want to lash out at my appearance because you took what I said very personally. To teach me a lesson...right?0 -
after reading a topic about if guys prefer girls with curves it made me think about girls i know who go on about guys being 'too big' in a muscular way!!! behave lol so i wanna know when is a guy too big/muscular or do girls prefer bigger guys?
No such thing as too muscular... unless the guy is skinny and muscular and it looks odd, like John Basedow.0
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