WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR SEPTEMBER 2014
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Michele, I took a deep water class when I was at my biggest, and I didn't even need a float belt. I just floated like a bobber all by myself. There wasn't a belt big enough anyway. I floated with my complete head and shoulders out of the water. Now, after 115 pounds, I still float but now the water comes up to my lower lip, so I am sinking a little bit. I gave up the deep water class because I was embarrassed about it, so kudos to the lady in your class.
Kim, I put my shoes on and walked with the kids this morning but by the time I got back to the car my feet were itching. Maybe tomorrow will be better. I'm falling WAY behind. By the way, I have always wondered about your "momsamodel" profile name. Have you explained that and I missed it? Is your mom really a model? I'm just being nosy. You don't have to answer.
Carol, I hope you get some sleep. Good luck with the open house!
MA, congrats on 18,500 steps! I'm in awe!
Gotta go finish some laundry and go to bed early. Goodnight friends!
Sylvia0 -
Just checking in. Thank you for the comments, they made me feel not so alone.
Today was a really bad day, emotionally. I ended up walking over 100 minutes.
It would've been more but it got dark. Walking makes me feel better physically
But also gives me too much time to think. Thank God for cell phones, normally
I love walking without any music or phones but tonight I had to talk to someone
to keep my negative thoughts from taking over.
Carol- thank you for sharing about your depression, you gave me the courage to
share about mine. It does help to share but at the same time it's a little scary to
open up.
Brenda from Md0 -
:flowerforyou: Every day in my e mail I get a happiness quote from “The Happiness Project” website. Several days a week I get a posting from “Gratitude and Trust .com” so my day is filled with positive thoughts that set me on the right path for the day…that, along with hearing from all of you gives me the tools to meet the day.
:explode: The internet was down from here to Seattle all afternoon so I got way behind on my projects…..this evening I am doubly grateful for my Smart Phone and for the return of the internet.:bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile:
:flowerforyou: Sylvia, when I was a teenager I could go anywhere in the woods with my friends and never have to worry about the poison oak that was everywhere so imagine my surprise when we bought property in the country when I was in my 50’s and I got poison oak----not as bad as what you have, but bad enough to make me bonkers and itchy for many days.
Barbie from beautiful NW Washington
:bigsmile: .21,000 steps today ----an awesome line dance class
“The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach."0 -
Well I did not loose any weight and I was hard on myself. :frown: I have been struggling with my weight all my life. I would go to WW, Nutria Systems. diet pills, ex lax, shots anything to keep my weight off. It worked for a while but it always came back and then more. I live in fear that four letter word.:laugh: and it turns from fear to procrastination. I have failed so many times. So, this time I am going to work thr my fear and stop living in the past and not base my current efforts on past results. I ask for help now and do not see it as a sign of weakness. it is a sign of strength. I try to look at food addiction as an illness and not a personal attach on my self worth, or self control. Today I am trying to treat my food addiction like I need to take care of it and myself so I do not get complacent and not do what I did to do. I have a addiction to food I am not a bad person because I am over weight. I am worth it. I am worth choosing the right foods, walking even if the house has dust:laugh: I will not put work, or stress or the kids before what I need to do. I am a care taker and It is very hard to put myself fist. I know that to be true becasue I know people all around me who have no problem making sure they take care of themselves. It not selfish as I learned growing up it is actually the most unselfish thing to do because if I do not take care of myself who is going to take care of the kid, grand kids. my work WEll I have opened up enough for tonight I may not be able to reach everyone with my thoughts but I hope all of us find peace with good cause we deserve it 381 annie0
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Im so glad u joined our group. Good luck and keep in touch
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Hi all. Nothing much to report today. Quiet day at work. I did call CPS and made a preliminary report. I couldn’t stand the thought that DD thought living with a bunch of drug users was acceptable either while pregnant or after the baby is born. They took the report and said they wouldn’t do anything now, but if another report came in, even from me, they’d investigate because it was a second report. Now she is saying everything is just a misunderstanding and nothing ever happened.
Gail: yummy dinner!
Anne: yes Tanya is DD#1 who is nearly 22 but developmentally/intellectually about 14 on a good day.
Sylvia: pick the favorite child! LOL I think you have poison ivy! So sorry about the reaction!
Carol: glad you are adjusting to your son being gone
Kayakcutie: wow that’s one long commute
Beth: I too am suffering from the fluctuating hormones and the weird weight changes!
Michelle hooray for Lexi! I am trying my best to keep my health and needs first and foremost!
Joyce: my cure for facial hair is electrolysis! Expensive and not comfy but well worth it. With the hormone issues I had, I had quite the beard! Now it’s gone and my face is “baby behind” smooth! Yes I know I overdosed you all on drama!
Kim: looking forward to the eggplant recipe
Amanda: hope you start really feeling better soon!
Alison: you win the drama contest….holy cow! That must have been traumatic all around! Sending you all my extra (((hugs))). Hooray for the smaller scrubs! I’m sorry for the hurt from your husband
Heather: I appreciate the good wishes!
Brenda: so glad to see you are back. I’m sorry about your depression. I think you are right though; keeping in contact is so important
Vicki: glad to see you back safe and sound! Sorry about the trike issue
Sylvia: later…..so is was poison ivy! Now at least you have medications for it
Yanniejannie: so jealous of your hummers! I got some great photos of them all over a feeder in Colorado. I even got a couple of shots of a bee/hummingbird fight!
Cynthia: sending get well wishes to puppy dog!
MA: wow that is really sad about the arson!
Annie: yes you are worth it!
DeeDee: yes it’s a mess alright and I so appreciate your support. I think Benny was missing daddy and alena. I want to see pictures of your house!
Margaret: I do feel better after acting on my feelings and calling in that report. Now I’m done with it until I see something else that needs reporting.
Lesley I hope you get rid of your cough soon
Diane: your animals sound like they need as much medical care as mine do! Blessings to you for taking care of them
Mimi: it’s weird how we start worrying about our parents like they worried about us! I feel like the bacon in a club sandwich; I have way more that the usual sandwich generation stuff…dad in nursing home, daughter still living here, and of course DD#1 and her soon to be baby Nikita.
Lesley chev: yay for swimming ! Great exercise
Kitty: just keep plugging away!
Tere: what a great idea to have a positive reflection each day
Mon: glad your headache is gone now
Sylvia again: I had to laugh out loud because I actually called our help desk once to report an error message on my pc screen and was asked “Is your computer plugged in?” um, yes, I am seeing something on the screen. The next question was “Is your monitor turned on?”. So I hung up
Brenda: good job!
Newbies: welcome to all of you!
OK I have been reading posts for over an hour now, so I need to get a shower taken and some laundry finished. Take care! Meg from Omaha where it was gorgeous today!0 -
Annie, this is for me a rest of my life journey and I will do it one hour at a time, and celebrate what comes my way, seeing a new 'hood because of a walk, trying a new recipe, weight loss, toning.... hang it and you will also be able to celebrate a great group of new friends....
Brenda - great walk! and so glad you used your phone to reach out and continue your walk!
Sylvia - you did not miss it and you are the first to ask.... My mom when she was in her 20's and 30's was a bra and girdle model for Warner (then it was called warner bros) and back then you modeled on a runway for department store buyers, they modeled the undergarments OVER other clothing so as to not show off anything and she wore a perfect size 4 -on top of her first layer of clothing... and she rubbed that fact in my face - In fact just the other day she said how glad she was I had lost weight but reminded me I still was not pretty, and was very fat. She is 85 and considers herself fat at a perfect size 6.... When I was trying to find a screen name; her "you know I was a model and if you just wanted to be you could be nice looking too, instead you are fat and ugly" the mantra I heard from about 6-7 years old till today.. And I thought - I am putting it out there to expose it to the light of day and the mean spirit it is and change that to just a nothing... And I will never look like my mom; I am my dad's look; but I am not an ugly duckling, just not her.
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Kim - thanks so much for looking for a dairy free casserole. See, I'm going to have Rummikub here next month and one of the ladies is lactose intolerant. She also doesn't eat (or at least tries to limit) gluten, but that's not a health issue for her so I'm not so concerned about that. She is lactose intolerant so I do try to make something that she can have. Last time I made a tofu mousse since that's something she can have. Then she didn't come. If she doesn't come this time, part of me is saying that I won't bother to worry so much about her lactose intolerance. Right now I'm thinking that maybe I'll make stuffed cabbages and use egg substitute instead of the egg. Actually, I may wind up making them healthier and using ground turkey instead of ground beef.
Sylvia - you shouldn't be embarassed about the deep water classes. One thing I've found is that the women in that class don't care at all what you look like. I cared about Maggie because she's so much fitter and I remember when she first started, the struggles she encountered. I'm thinking that Kim is the model, or was one anyway.
This talk about poison ivy reminded me of an episode of "Private Practice" where this lady went in the woods to take a pee and she got poison ivy guess where?
annie - great post, opening up the way you did helps tremendously
Got a call from the vet's office earlier today. Lexi's thyroid numbers are in the normal range. Just what we were expecting.
Kim - I can't believe your mom said something like that to you! How I wish I was a size 6!
Success - I managed to sneak the insulin into Lance. I truly question his diabetes. I know his blood sugar numbers are all over the chart, and he gets a pretty big dose of the insulin, but when he doesn't get it I don't see his water dish going down a lot nor do I see a lot of urine in the litterbox. Oh well...... Jess will be here not this weekend, but next.
Michele in NC0 -
Meg, I am so sorry about you having to call CPS, that's not a Mom or a grandmas dream. But I am proud of you in doing it.
Momsamodel, thank for opening up and telling us the story about your username. No, you are not your Mom, You are you, God made you and loves you. Keep your head up high.
Anyone have an extra dose of will power for me?????? Those boxes of cereal are calling my name again.
Got to really meet a new lady that joine dthe choir last week. She is a 2nd year nursing student. One of my good friends in the choir is a nurse also so we stayed after practice and had a good chat. This young girl has been through many health problems herself. she had stage one melanoma removed form several places and got MRSA afterwards. Had to go throgh the standard 6 week antibiotic treatment only to get it later on and they only gave her 9 days of treatment. Of course it didn't work so she had to go through the 6 weeks of treatment again. She seems like a vivacious young women with her eyes fully open about what nursing can really be like. I'm not sure if it is profession I can recommend to just anyone. Sorry Meg. We were talking about having to use the dummies in training. The dummies are quite high tech now. She said they talk to you, groan when you are inflicting pain, breathe, heart goes lub dub, etc. Creepy to have intelligent dummies
Did I mention I need an extra dose of will power form some one????? I really do.
Joyce, Indiana0 -
STILL coughing but cough medicine from chemist and Ivy leaf spray are helping and I am sleeping better. NO training just walking the dog.
Went to hairdressers' this afternoon and she did a good colour, lighter than last time, and a great cut. Feel human again now.
I am finding it hard NOT to send a birthday card to granddaughter, but abiding by what husband says is best for US. I have NO idea where she is living and she does not answer emails or phone, sigh!
Budget finally sorted after 2 months, breathes sigh of relief
Hope to get back to training next week again, missing it.
Lesley in Tasmania0 -
Good morning everyone, still just nursing my dog and succumbing to stress eating once in a while.
Hope everyone has a good day.
Cynthia :flowerforyou:0 -
I'm on my laptop right now. I was able to sneak another dose of insulin into Lance. He should get it twice a day, but I'm not about to put myself in jeopardy. Anyway, he got me up around 3:30 meowing to go out in the living room. So I thought "well, maybe he'll figure that since he got the insulin last night, I'm not going to give it to him this morning". So I filled another syringe. I was right, he didn't expect it! Normally, he gets it at night and in the morning, so that's what happened! I feel badly sneaking it, but that seems to be the only way I can get it into him. Poor fellow, I really think he's not good with change and he's had a lot of changes (at least to him, Jessica's old place, staying with Kris, now her new place, now he's down here). He was nose-to-nose with two of our cats and yesterday he did eat out of their food dish (guess he figures if Clyde and Loki can eat out of his dish, then he can eat out of theirs....lol)
Joyce - I just knew that you and that new lady had a conversation! Wonder why they only gave her 9 days of the treatment? The local college here has a room that's set up just like a hosp room with talking dummies and all. Sending will power your way. I needed some last night so I came in and stayed with Lance and Shadow. Got me away from the computer and kitchen!
Lesley - take care of yourself. Glad that medicine is helping.
Cynthia - sending good vibes for your doggie.
We're supposed to go to lunch with the Newcomers today. I already know that I'm going to get the veggie burger and mixed veges. I'll see if instead of the mayo, sautéed onions and bun they'll let me substitute another serving of the veggies, but I'm not real hopeful. The fact of the matter is that veggies cost more than a bun and mayo. But it can't hurt to ask, the worst they can say is "no". Story all around -- lots of "filler" (buns, French fries, etc) and few veges. <Sigh>
Michele in NC0 -
morning ladies~
when I told you my husband was going to charge me for water, he was joking.. he can crack a joke every once in awhile..
yes he might be rough around the edges,but I love him anyway..
today is my DB 50th birthday.. not much reason to celebrate though as his best friend growing up just passed away.. I will find out the specifics then plan accordingly..
beautiful sleeping weather last night ,I took advantage and slept 8 1/2 hrs woke up late this morning...0 -
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Deb A in CNY0 -
Good morning! First day back to school for my son ... 11th grade ... no headache this morning! Yay! He hasn't been in the school since last March because of the migraines, so he was a little anxious...
Kim ... your "name" ... I got shivers reading your/my story. My mom was asked to be a bra/lingerie model, but her dad wouldn't allow it. Still, I grew up hearing how she could've been from both her and my dad. She was 5'11" with gorgeous legs and a perfect hourglass figure.To this day I can still hear my model thin mother telling me I was fat when I was 5'8" and weighed 145 pounds! Huh? She would make dinner for the family ... something normal... and then give me a broiled hamburger patty and skim milk ... any wonder I became a "sneak" eater? I've gotten over this and my relationship is good with my mom (although my weight is still an issue for her)... she's now horribly crippled with osteoporosis... 5'5" with an awful dowager's hump. I should remember to thank her for the milk ... she wouldn't drink it!
Ackk! I can't remember what else I was going to write ... not used to the earlier start time!
Hope you all have a great day!
Beth0 -
Good morning ladies. Well I have been trying to read and catch up and I am still in August. So just going to start from here. I have really been BLAH since we got home. My eating has been out of control. So starting again this morning. Prayers and hugs to all of you and Thank you for being here for me.
Blessings, Vicki GI NE0 -
Good morning this place. Well spent part of the night with my CPAP machine on. But had to take it off for awhile my mouth was so very dry. But will keep trying till I get it right. No wonder I'd get up in the morning tired all the time. I quit breathing 30+ times an hour. Hope this works. They were saying this should help a lot of my medical problems. Hope so.
So didn't do well at tops last night had a gain of 1.2 Need to see that gone my next wed. plus more.
Going to start some kind of exercise today and try something for 20 min. a day.
Momsamodel = KIm
I read that different I was seeing that you were being a model mom. An example for your children.
How cruel of your mom to treat you that way.
Well guess I better face the day things to do and places to go.
See you all lighter
Linda in Northern Ontario.0 -
Good Morning Friends,
:drinker:
Welcome newcomers:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
Sylvia love the jokes.
My mom did not make comments about my weight and when I went through that period where I ate everything in sight she just ignored it. She was of the school if I ignore it the problem will go away. She did however make comments about others who were overweight. She would say at least I am not as fat as that person meaning herself. My mantra to myself is I need to work on getting and keeping myself healthy. Comparing myself to someone else only hurts me and the other person.
As I write this I remember one time I wish I had spoken up. It was when I was eating at a restaurant with my father and this family was berating their son in public. They were criticizing his eating. He was about ten and was overweight. To this day I wish I had stopped to whisper in his ear some kind of support. It was a missed opportunity.
For me neither extreme works ignoring or blaming the victim. Perhaps that is why i have become so interested in educating myself about food issues and accepting there is not a one shoe fits all to attaining and maintaining a healthy weight..
May everyone have a wonderful day!
Today i will work on my own issues around weight, so tomorrow I will wake to a healthier me.
2014 word: contentment
MNMargaret0 -
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Hey everyone
My name is Shari and it is nice to meet you. I love in North Florida in a little town called Havana. Starting today I am going to keep track of everything I put in my mouth. If I don't want to log it or have time than I don't eat or drink it This weight is coming off. LETS DO THIS! Have an awesome day everyone0 -
Just joined so don't have a list for Sept goals yet. Yesterday I found out that my oldest greyhound sweetheart (she's 9)as osteo in her right shoulder & lungs. I won't do chemo on her as it's too advanced so will just love her until she tells me she wants to join all her former housemates at the bridge. I workout 5-6 times a week & swim/do water arobics on Sunday with my daughter so we try to keep each other going & improving. Hardest for me is fixing meals for 1& staying away from dark chocolate.
Greythoundlover in north TX0 -
Better night; slept almost 8hrs. Last night I dug apart the 3 boxes in my kitchen that I brought back when I sold my mom's house. Old dishes, pitchers, etc.......a lot of the pieces were my parents wedding gifts. They had so little these were treasured and I heard all about each piece many times. The boxes have been sitting in my kitchen for years; I just couldn't face the memories of the contents. Well, I did it and survived! That was nothing to do with weight loss but was certainly a super major NSV for me. Everything is washed and drying on the dishwasher racks.........and I'm none the worse, in fact, feeling a huge sense of accomplishment and, for some reason, relief.
It rained during the night, so I didn't have to water; very humid out there today. May go to Colonial Williamsburg later.
Margaret............Excellent quote.
Heather..........Thank you! Your words meant a lot and helped.
EC..........I've gotten used to just draining, flaking, and adding grated onion with no dressing---your alternative is a good idea.
Kim...........I did take those breaths you advised! Enjoy your work today w/o the perfectionist. The details about your name---what a huge shadow to grow up under! Glad you have come to a sense of peace with it.
Brenda.............Please keep checking in here!
Meg...............Excellent step you took to involve CPS; very necessary also.
Lesley..........Don't know what "bug" you had; but I coughed over 2 weeks with mine. Glad to hear the budget is back in balance.
Beth.........Fingers crossed for your son!!! Your story does eerily mirror Kims.
Off for my shower and another mug of tea.
"Life is what happens when you are busy making other plans" John Lennon
Best to each of you!
yanniejannie
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Margaret
Very well said
Love to be thin and Greyhound lover
Welcome and good luck.
Yannie Jeannie
A shower and a cup of tea sounds just like the doctor ordered.
Going for my shower then back to enjoy my cup of tea with you.
Going to stick around here to remind me I'm not alone on this journey.
See you all lighter.
Linda in Northern Ontario.0 -
Kim, I'm so sorry about your mom's horrible treatment of you. Thanks for telling us about it. I think it's nice to know what people have gone through to understand them a little better. My mom was similarly horrible, but she was never a model. She had a slight weight problem when we were growing up, but I don't think she ever hit 200. At some point, it must have been in the early 70's, she had her stomach removed. The facts are a little blurry. She was a raging hypochondriac and often made up stories to get attention. She told some people it was because her stomach muscle atrophied and they removed it and made a little pouch out of her esophagus and intestines. I think it may have been a very early attempt at weight loss surgery. In any event, she ate like a bird afterward and lost a lot of weight. Too much, actually. But then she started rubbing my nose in her thinness, always asking if this size 2 made her look fat? And what size do you wear again? She would make cruel comments about my weight, but then sabotage all my efforts to lose it. Years later she had an obstructed bowel and the had to remove a big section and she lost even more. Eventually she basically starved to death because she couldn't get any nutrients. When she was literally on her death bed, she whispered to me, "Don't ever let them cut you." Meaning don't have surgery for weight loss. She also told me she loved me for the first time in my life, but that's a whole nuther story.
Meg, good for you! You absolutely did the right thing.
Gretyhoundlover, welcome! I'm so sorry your poor pup is ailing. Greyhounds are such great dogs.
Shari, welcome too! You'll be amazed at how easy it is to log your food, once you make it a habit. It's very empowering, too. And it helps you make better decisions. The other day we were at Applebee's and I considered getting the penne dish I used to love. Looked it up and it was HUGE on calories and ASTRONOMICAL on sodium, so I decided on a small steak and red potatoes. Much better.
I walked the kids to school this morning, then went to the Y, then had to come home because I had forgotten my phone (again). While I was here, the lawn guys came so I had to lock up the dogs. I thought they were finished, because they had closed the gate, so I released the hounds. Turned out they weren't finished, so I had to chase Molly around the back yard with the leash for 20 minutes. It's a BIG yard and she runs really fast when she doesn't want to get caught. I finally got her back inside so they are out there now finishing up. Luckily, Bruno stays right next to me, so I have no trouble getting him inside.
My feet are so much better today that I'm going to try to wear my flip flops. The swelling is down and they aren't purple, so that's gotta be good. I suspect the prednisone may cause some weight issues though, because today I was up 2 1/2 pounds from yesterday! Yikes! And I was so good yesterday. I have several more days of the meds though, so I'll just have to grit my teeth and deal with it.
It looks like the lawn guys are finished now and gone, so I can finally go to work. Only 2 hours late. I hope the boss won't fire me. Well, since I'm the boss I guess I'm safe. Have a great day everyone.
Sylvia0 -
Hello Ladies,
Today I did strength training for arms and legs. Treadmill is next.
Michele, I'm glad Lexi's numbers were good!
Kim, a pretty package doesn't make a person pretty. A mean spirit cancels that out. You are God's masteiece! I'm glad you've made peace with your Mom's remarks. My Mom was beautiful and also very critical of me. It took me a long time to get over my insecurity. I finally realized she was an unhappy person. The more I enjoyed life the meaner she got. That's a sad way to spend one's time.
Joyce, sending you some will power.
Leslie, sending you feel better wishes.
Yanniejannie, congratulations on your NSV. I understand the difficulty you went through doing that.
I've got to get moving.
Hugs to all I missed!
Cindy in OK0 -
Hi fabulous women. I just found this thread. Is this a group to join? Or do I just search for this thread under topics? I fit the demographics and would like to check in a few times a week. I'll check back for your replies.
My story -- 15 pounds down with 45 weight loss goal, so 30 pounds to go. I checked with my doctor and I'm doing a modified 5:2 plan with daily purposeful movement and at least 5 gym workouts a week. Changing my leisure activity to include more movement. Eating healthy within my allotted daily caloric intake. Slow progress, but healthy. Love riding bikes with my husband. Healing from a bruised rib due to gawking at beautiful landscape while on the bike. Distracted and crashed. Should be better soon.
Empty nester, married 35 years, 3 grown children, 3 grandsons. Retired from education two years ago and currently work part-time at a college. I'm so blessed. I may as well be slimmer and healthy AND blessed!
Have a beautiful day and keep moving!
Jean - Western Missouri - the Heartland!0 -
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Hi! I'm new here, too.
I found out the end of June that my sister had been diagnosed with a1c, and her doctor says it's hereditary. I decided I should do something, kind of a preemptive strike, because I want to be around for my kids and grandkids for a long time to come. I started my weight loss journey on July 9 and have lost 18 pounds to date. My 58th birthday is four weeks away and I am looking forward to being at least 20 pounds lighter by then and maybe buying a few new clothes!
For September, I plan to continue with the calorie counting because it has helped. I am spending 30 minutes each morning on the stepper, but it might be time to add 5 minutes to that. I am trying to get in some yoga at least three days a week as well.
Thank you, Barbie, for this forum!
Kathleen in Kent, WA:happy:0 -
Arrrggghhh! I need to vent! I joined the Dinner for Eight group at my church in an attempt to have a social life. (I mentioned this group last month after our first gathering.) I just found out today that the restaurant chosen for this month is the Angus Barn in Raleigh. The CHEAPEST thing on the menu is $24 and that is for a freaking hamburger steak! :noway: Needless to say, I will not be attending this month's event. I can go to my favorite greasy spoon and get the same thing for $7--and that's a treat meal for me financially. I don't spend much more than $24 on a whole week's worth of groceries. I feel like crying! :sad: :sad:
Vent over. For now, anyway.
Welcome, newbies!
Carol in NC0 -
Hello ladies,
Another quick post to check in. Been reading posts, so much going on in this group!
Kim,
I am so sorry your mom treated you that way. So much more reason to treat yourself the right way and love yourself.
Greyhoundlover
Puppy prayers for your baby, and a hug for you. I know it's so hard to see them hurt.
Carol,
I think $24 for a burger is abuse. I am sure there is another social group with more reasonably priced activities. I'm so cheap when I go out...I have passes to all the dance halls I like, or I show up early, before they have cover charge. Drink a glass of water - $1 for tip. I'm a cheap date for myself, but the fun I have is priceless. I am sure you will find something you would have fun with and that won't break the bank.
Mon
Please remember: you are a soul with a body, not the other way around.0
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