Fast Food Workers Strikes = Win for better health
CrusherKun
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So this whole thing about people being paid more or refusing to work is a good thing. That means these places will have less workers to sling unhealthy junk foods! its a good thing!
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I'm not really following your logic here, sorry.0
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I'm not really following your logic here, sorry.
Yeah me either. All the company has to do is fire those people who refuse to go to work and hire more.
It's not the fast food industry's fault that people are obese. No one is forcing you to eat it 24/7.0 -
I don't eat it anyway0
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Honestly, I don't see why the heck fast food workers should get paid more than minimum wage. It is unskilled labor and the vast majority of fast-food workers* I have ever dealt with could not seem to care less about any form of customer service. To me, this equals minimal pay.
*The exception I have found to this is Chick-fil-a where the workers seem universally clean and polite.0 -
Honestly, I don't see why the heck fast food workers should get paid more than minimum wage. It is unskilled labor and the vast majority of fast-food workers* I have ever dealt with could not seem to care less about any form of customer service. To me, this equals minimal pay.
*The exception I have found to this is Chick-fil-a where the workers seem universally clean and polite.
YES. Thank you. There is a reason they are being paid MINIMUM WAGE. But asking for $15 an hour? PLEASE.0 -
It's not so much that they shouldn't make minimum wage, it's more about fair working conditions and livable wage/hours. Minimum wage isn't a liveable wage in most states and then to top it off the fast food places only give their workers about 10 hours a week but they make their schedules sporadically making it very hard for them to get a second job.0
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Honestly, I don't see why the heck fast food workers should get paid more than minimum wage. It is unskilled labor and the vast majority of fast-food workers* I have ever dealt with could not seem to care less about any form of customer service. To me, this equals minimal pay.
*The exception I have found to this is Chick-fil-a where the workers seem universally clean and polite.
I agree 100%. I'm so sick of hearing people say "Well you can't make a living on minimum wage". You're not meant to!!0 -
So this whole thing about people being paid more or refusing to work is a good thing. That means these places will have less workers to sling unhealthy junk foods! its a good thing!
Or people could just not go in to the restaurant, but that requires personal responsibility and accountability so........0 -
It's not so much that they shouldn't make minimum wage, it's more about fair working conditions and livable wage/hours. Minimum wage isn't a liveable wage in most states and then to top it off the fast food places only give their workers about 10 hours a week but they make their schedules sporadically making it very hard for them to get a second job.
Minimum wage isn't supposed to be a liveable wage. It should get you by in a pinch, in between jobs, in high school/college, etc0 -
Honestly, I don't see why the heck fast food workers should get paid more than minimum wage. It is unskilled labor and the vast majority of fast-food workers* I have ever dealt with could not seem to care less about any form of customer service. To me, this equals minimal pay.
*The exception I have found to this is Chick-fil-a where the workers seem universally clean and polite.
I agree 100%. I'm so sick of hearing people say "Well you can't make a living on minimum wage". You're not meant to!!
You are meant to. That's the whole point of minimum wage. To provide a livable wage for unskilled workers.0 -
It's not so much that they shouldn't make minimum wage, it's more about fair working conditions and livable wage/hours. Minimum wage isn't a liveable wage in most states and then to top it off the fast food places only give their workers about 10 hours a week but they make their schedules sporadically making it very hard for them to get a second job.
Minimum wage isn't supposed to be a liveable wage. It should get you by in a pinch, in between jobs, in high school/college, etc
Exactly. I held three different minimum wage jobs between the ages of 15 and 18. Bagger/cart hauler at a grocery store, McDonald's cashier and 7-11 Cashier (on 11p-7a shift no less). They all sucked to some degree or another, but they were never meant to be a "career".0 -
In the current job market fast food is often the only work people can find. So it's no longer just 16 year olds and people just wanting a little extra cash. Also, the pay is quite low and nearly impossible to live on. People say "go to school and get a real job" but it isn't that simple. College is expensive and if you are already struggling it's probably not in the budget. My husband and I work good jobs that are full time and I am also a student and text book cost still kill me every semester. I can't imagine doing that on a smaller salary. These restaurants can afford to pay more they just don't want to. The CEOs and execs get huge bonuses when they already make huge salaries yet the people at the bottom producing the profits rarely see any kind of bonus. McDonalds' CEO made nearly $14 mil in one year. The previous CEO got a $10 mil bonus to leave on top of his $17 mil salary. In store employees make $7-10/hr.0
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In the current job market fast food is often the only work people can find. So it's no longer just 16 year olds and people just wanting a little extra cash. Also, the pay is quite low and nearly impossible to live on. People say "go to school and get a real job" but it isn't that simple. College is expensive and if you are already struggling it's probably not in the budget. My husband and I work good jobs that are full time and I am also a student and text book cost still kill me every semester. I can't imagine doing that on a smaller salary. These restaurants can afford to pay more they just don't want to. The CEOs and execs get huge bonuses when they already make huge salaries yet the people at the bottom producing the profits rarely see any kind of bonus. McDonalds' CEO made nearly $14 mil in one year. The previous CEO got a $10 mil bonus to leave on top of his $17 mil salary. In store employees make $7-10/hr.
Again, these jobs are UNSKILLED labor. They get paid like it. The company has no obligation to pay more for UNSKILLED labor.0 -
It's not so much that they shouldn't make minimum wage, it's more about fair working conditions and livable wage/hours. Minimum wage isn't a liveable wage in most states and then to top it off the fast food places only give their workers about 10 hours a week but they make their schedules sporadically making it very hard for them to get a second job.
Nor is it supposed to be. Aspire to be more. Minimum wage isn't meant to pay a mortgage and car payments. It's to supplement another income, or get you through school with some cash for spending money. But i guess if you can parlay it with welfare, you might do ok.0 -
Honestly, I don't see why the heck fast food workers should get paid more than minimum wage. It is unskilled labor and the vast majority of fast-food workers* I have ever dealt with could not seem to care less about any form of customer service. To me, this equals minimal pay.
*The exception I have found to this is Chick-fil-a where the workers seem universally clean and polite.
I agree 100%. I'm so sick of hearing people say "Well you can't make a living on minimum wage". You're not meant to!!
You are meant to. That's the whole point of minimum wage. To provide a livable wage for unskilled workers.
To provide for unskilled workers while they obtain skills to get a better paying job!0 -
To everyone saying that Minimum wage is not meant to be a Livable wage: That is absolutely its intent.
From the Fair Labor Standards act of 1938 (the thing that created minimum wage):
§ 202. Congressional finding and declaration of policy
(a) The Congress finds that the existence, in industries engaged in commerce or in
the production of goods for commerce, of labor conditions detrimental to the
maintenance of the minimum standard of living necessary for health, efficiency, and
general well-being of workers
(b) It is declared to be the policy of this chapter, through the exercise by Congress
of its power to regulate commerce among the several States and with foreign
nations, to correct and as rapidly as practicable to eliminate the conditions above
referred to in such industries without substantially curtailing employment or earning
power.
That pretty clearly states that minimum wage should be a livable wage.0 -
Honestly, I don't see why the heck fast food workers should get paid more than minimum wage. It is unskilled labor and the vast majority of fast-food workers* I have ever dealt with could not seem to care less about any form of customer service. To me, this equals minimal pay.
*The exception I have found to this is Chick-fil-a where the workers seem universally clean and polite.
I agree 100%. I'm so sick of hearing people say "Well you can't make a living on minimum wage". You're not meant to!!
You are meant to. That's the whole point of minimum wage. To provide a livable wage for unskilled workers.
ideally it would work like that, but i don't think you can really be a full on capitalist country and expect this to work out in practice.
The reality of it is that if you can not/will not upgrade your skill sets then you need to work multiple jobs and perhaps well over 40 hrs a week to make a living wage0 -
The higher minimum wage goes up, the less value my own job holds. MY pay doesn't go up when minimum wage goes up.0
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When does this happen?
Will there be people there when I go get my lunch today???0 -
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The higher minimum wage goes up, the less value my own job holds. MY pay doesn't go up when minimum wage goes up.
^^This too.0 -
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The higher minimum wage goes up, the less value my own job holds. MY pay doesn't go up when minimum wage goes up.
^^This too.
Exactly. I have a Bachelor's degree and 6 years of experience in my field. I live in a rural area and make less than $10 an hour more than the current minimum wage. If minimum wage goes up by $7 (here in NY), the value of my job goes in the toilet.
Last year they raised minimum wage in NY. Due to inflation, the cost of my childcare and groceries went but my salary stayed the same. So who's really getting screwed here?0 -
To everyone saying that Minimum wage is not meant to be a Livable wage: That is absolutely its intent.
From the Fair Labor Standards act of 1938 (the thing that created minimum wage):
§ 202. Congressional finding and declaration of policy
(a) The Congress finds that the existence, in industries engaged in commerce or in
the production of goods for commerce, of labor conditions detrimental to the
maintenance of the minimum standard of living necessary for health, efficiency, and
general well-being of workers
(b) It is declared to be the policy of this chapter, through the exercise by Congress
of its power to regulate commerce among the several States and with foreign
nations, to correct and as rapidly as practicable to eliminate the conditions above
referred to in such industries without substantially curtailing employment or earning
power.
That pretty clearly states that minimum wage should be a livable wage.
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In the current job market fast food is often the only work people can find. So it's no longer just 16 year olds and people just wanting a little extra cash. Also, the pay is quite low and nearly impossible to live on. People say "go to school and get a real job" but it isn't that simple. College is expensive and if you are already struggling it's probably not in the budget. My husband and I work good jobs that are full time and I am also a student and text book cost still kill me every semester. I can't imagine doing that on a smaller salary. These restaurants can afford to pay more they just don't want to. The CEOs and execs get huge bonuses when they already make huge salaries yet the people at the bottom producing the profits rarely see any kind of bonus. McDonalds' CEO made nearly $14 mil in one year. The previous CEO got a $10 mil bonus to leave on top of his $17 mil salary. In store employees make $7-10/hr.
Ummm, so.
Why are the top wage earners somehow obligated to raise the salaries of unskilled workers, because they demand it? In this world you get what you earn, way way way to many people are of the mindset that they somehow "DESERVE" more money. Ludicrous...
If you want it, earn it.
There are jobs available for people who are willing to work hard, I see it everyday on constructions sites. Many of the contractors are screaming for workers who will show up and work, I've seen probably a dozen new people hit this job just this season and complain that it's to hard and just stop showing up, that's the problem, nobody wants to EARN the job or pay, they want it given to them.0 -
A lot of UNSKILLED workers are unskilled because they were born into poverty and never had the opportunity to go to school to learn a SKILL that would enable them to get a higher paying job.
So what are they supposed to do, work three minimum wage jobs just to get by?
Everyone has the right to make enough money to flipping survive on. I work two jobs, I make more than minimum wage, I live alone, and I am barely getting by.0 -
I agree with the others I don't see how this is a win for better health, if you don't like the food don't eat there but don't' go labeling the food as evil. Plus i say just fire them all and replace them. I have very little tolerance for people who go on strike. There is absolutely no reason a fast food worker should earn as much as someone who went to college or trade school such as plumbers and nurses.0
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Well that pretty much says it. Lawyered.To everyone saying that Minimum wage is not meant to be a Livable wage: That is absolutely its intent.
From the Fair Labor Standards act of 1938 (the thing that created minimum wage):
§ 202. Congressional finding and declaration of policy
(a) The Congress finds that the existence, in industries engaged in commerce or in
the production of goods for commerce, of labor conditions detrimental to the
maintenance of the minimum standard of living necessary for health, efficiency, and
general well-being of workers
(b) It is declared to be the policy of this chapter, through the exercise by Congress
of its power to regulate commerce among the several States and with foreign
nations, to correct and as rapidly as practicable to eliminate the conditions above
referred to in such industries without substantially curtailing employment or earning
power.
That pretty clearly states that minimum wage should be a livable wage.
But there in lies the question, what is needed for "minimum standard of living" Cell phones, cable, car, would not qualify, I would qualify it as adequate amount/qualify of food, shelter, and clothing, and minimum wage jobs would get you those 3 especially if you lived with a roommate and had no kids. I don't think it can or should support a family just an individual's basic needs.
And this is coming from someone that leans to the socialist side of the line, vs. the capitalist side0 -
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Well that pretty much says it. Lawyered.To everyone saying that Minimum wage is not meant to be a Livable wage: That is absolutely its intent.
From the Fair Labor Standards act of 1938 (the thing that created minimum wage):
§ 202. Congressional finding and declaration of policy
(a) The Congress finds that the existence, in industries engaged in commerce or in
the production of goods for commerce, of labor conditions detrimental to the
maintenance of the minimum standard of living necessary for health, efficiency, and
general well-being of workers
(b) It is declared to be the policy of this chapter, through the exercise by Congress
of its power to regulate commerce among the several States and with foreign
nations, to correct and as rapidly as practicable to eliminate the conditions above
referred to in such industries without substantially curtailing employment or earning
power.
That pretty clearly states that minimum wage should be a livable wage.
But there in lies the question, what is needed for "minimum standard of living" Cell phones, cable, car, would not qualify, I would qualify it as adequate amount/qualify of food, shelter, and clothing, and minimum wage jobs would get you those 3 especially if you lived with a roommate and had no kids. I don't think it can or should support a family just an individual's basic needs.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
You absolutely can LIVE on current minimum wage. Can you afford the best stuff, vacations, and extra activities? No, but that's your deal. If you want more money, acquire the skills to make it. Food & shelter & clothing is more than doable on $8.25 an hour.0
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