Marijuana and weight loss?
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I agree kim...generalizing all pot smokers is dangerous. I don't smoke it while my fiance is away...that's an entire week. Pot may be psychologicall addicting, but then so are video games and "losing" yourself in mother nature. It isn't associated with binge drinking, or heroin. It's pot, I'm not snorting it off the back of a toilet in some sleezy hotel...I'm also not smoking it to lose weight. It's not a pill or a routine that you do because you've gained 50lbs...if you notice that you can't handle porking out after you smoke a doob, then obviously you should smoke it on "cheat" days. If you can handle the munchies and you still feel great, then what's the problem? It's trial and error for me, I knew better than to smoke it before I worked out, and sure as hell, I didn't end up working out. So now I use it as a reward for busting my *kitten*. Once everything is done and it's "down time"...I go outside, have a couple of hoots, and let my day end. It has nothing to do with losing weight, or escaping my life. I have a good life!
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uh- public board my bad I don't think it makes you gain. just hungry.0
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weed is WAYYY better for you than alcohol...PERIOD!
where did you get the idea that weed has bad chemicals in it?! it's not like it's tobacco!! THC is a chemical (the good kind, duh!) and it doesn't hurt your liver like alcohol does. weed is used for medicinal purposes too. you think they'd distribute it to people with serious life-threatening illnesses if it was going to hurt them? sheesh!
weed will only hurt your weight loss goals if you can't control yourself when you get "the munchies"
and plus, alcohol is loaded with calories and can also lead to the munchies...AND health problems
if you can't control your munchies, then don't toke and/or drink when you're trying to lose weight. it's common sense!
just stay within your calorie goals when you toke up and you'll be fine...same goes for when you choose to drink.0 -
Totally agree :laugh:i don't know the science behind it, but the munchies is enough!!!
marijuana and weight loss are two words that don't belong in the same sentence!0 -
weed is WAYYY better for you than alcohol...PERIOD!
where did you get the idea that weed has bad chemicals in it?! it's not like it's tobacco!! THC is a chemical (the good kind, duh!) and it doesn't hurt your liver like alcohol does. weed is used for medicinal purposes too. you think they'd distribute it to people with serious life-threatening illnesses if it was going to hurt them? sheesh!
weed will only hurt your weight loss goals if you can't control yourself when you get "the munchies"
and plus, alcohol is loaded with calories and can also lead to the munchies...AND health problems
if you can't control your munchies, then don't toke and/or drink when you're trying to lose weight. it's common sense!
just stay within your calorie goals when you toke up and you'll be fine...same goes for when you choose to drink.
there are 400 to 500 chemicals...some of the major types of chemical constituents in marijuana preparations include acids, alcohols, aldehydes, and amino acids. Cannabinoids, esters, enzymes, proteins, sugars, glycoproteins, hydrocarbons, ketones, lactones, nitrogenous compounds, phenols, pigments, steroids, terpenes, and vitamins
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_Chemicals_in_marijuana#ixzz1CMxO9uT4
I know that's not very scientific, but I just did a quick google search and there's tons of information on the chemicals in pot. Don't forget they use pesticides to control the bugs, among other things...0 -
Willie Nelson doesn't appear to have a weight problem ... Just sayin...0
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there are 400 to 500 chemicals...some of the major types of chemical constituents in marijuana preparations include acids, alcohols, aldehydes, and amino acids. Cannabinoids, esters, enzymes, proteins, sugars, glycoproteins, hydrocarbons, ketones, lactones, nitrogenous compounds, phenols, pigments, steroids, terpenes, and vitamins
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_Chemicals_in_marijuana#ixzz1CMxO9uT4
I know that's not very scientific, but I just did a quick google search and there's tons of information on the chemicals in pot. Don't forget they use pesticides to control the bugs, among other things...
She's right anytime you burn anything your inhaling all sorts of chemicals that are bad for you and could cause long term damage. I also believe there are some studies correlating smoking pot and fertility issues.
From my experience it seems that pot smokers are very adamant about how pot is not bad for them. I feel that any drug even things like Tylenol aren't really good for you and if you can avoid using them you should.
Now for the topic at hand I think it depends on the person but from what I've been told if you smoke it long enough you can kind of condition yourself to only eat when you smoke. So if you smoke in the morning you eat breakfast go along with your day and wont think about food until the next time you smoke which for some may not be until the next day or two which obviously will result in weight loss.
My advice, forget the drugs and go and get a nice endorphin high from a good long workout.0 -
I also believe there are some studies correlating smoking pot and fertility issues.
This is true.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21227997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21196184I feel that any drug even things like Tylenol aren't really good for you and if you can avoid using them you should.
This is not.0 -
Here are some journal articles on Marijuana and their abstracts.
Psychosis associated with medical marijuana: Risk vs. benefits of medical cannabis use.
By Joseph M. Pierre
Cannabis use carries an increased risk for the development of psychosis. Medicinal cannabis has been legalized in many states, with minimal restrictions on prescribing indications. Although cannabis may have some health benefits, it also has a variety of adverse effects, including psychosis, especially among those at high risk.
Covariations of Adolescent Weight-control, Health-risk and Health-promoting Behaviors.
By Anca Condruta Rafiriou, Roger Sargent, Deborah Parra-Medina, et al.
Extreme dieters were more likely to use alcohol, cigarettes, and/or marijuana and to attempt suicide and less likely to practice vigorous exercise. Moderate dieters were less likely to use cigarettes, marijuana and more likely to engage in vigorous exercise, with differences across gender-race categories. Conclusions: Results have relevance for developing multicomponent programs for adolescents.
Lingering Loss.
By Ben Harder
The article reports that obese adults who lose weight during a year of taking rimonabant, an experimental diet drug, keep the weight off during the following year, if they continue the dieting regimen. The drug, which Paris-based manufacturer Sanofi-Aventis calls Acomplia, blocks cells' receptors for chemicals called cannabinoids, which include substances in marijuana. Some cravings for food and addictive substances depend on those receptors. Yearlong trials of rimonabant had suggested that the drug aids initial weight loss. But the real test of an obesity treatment is whether weight shed in one year stays away the next. The higher dose of the drug produced the greatest benefit, including the most lost weight and the healthiest cholesterol concentrations. Other recent studies suggest that rimonabant might break addictions to nicotine, alcohol, and certain other drugs.0 -
That's funny because my classmates were just talking about this in class. I was told that the reason that people who smoke marijuana lose weight is because, after awhile they rather smoke than eat. So heavy users smoke more than they eat which results in weight lose. (Not sure if it is true, just what I was told).0
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I smoke pot regularly and have for years. I've managed to lose 49 lbs and still smoke a little reefer every now and again. I prefer smoking to drinking. Since there's no hangover and no calories :blushing:
Geez, people get their panties all bunched up about marijuana. Weird.0 -
That's funny because my classmates were just talking about this in class. I was told that the reason that people who smoke marijuana lose weight is because, after awhile they rather smoke than eat. So heavy users smoke more than they eat which results in weight lose. (Not sure if it is true, just what I was told).
I know cigarettes are like that...it's a meal replacement/oral fixation type of thing...yes I'm a smoker...but no more than 4 a day...and I don't have my first one until 5:00 in the afternoon....0 -
Of course there would be an association between marijuana use and psychosis- because a lot of people with mental health issues smoke marijuana. Doesn't really prove a cause-and-effect relationship so much as it points to the fact that people with mental health issues often use marijuana to self-medicate.0
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I smoke. I run. I smoke and run. I smoke and do productive things like clean the house. Different strokes for different folks! Why do we have to be addicts or trying to cover something just because it's a "drug"? Does that mean every person who hits a bar after work is an addict too? If you can function and be productive it shouldn't matter what you are doing as long as you are not hurting anyone else.0
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there are 400 to 500 chemicals...some of the major types of chemical constituents in marijuana preparations include acids, alcohols, aldehydes, and amino acids. Cannabinoids, esters, enzymes, proteins, sugars, glycoproteins, hydrocarbons, ketones, lactones, nitrogenous compounds, phenols, pigments, steroids, terpenes, and vitaminsI know that's not very scientific, but I just did a quick google search and there's tons of information on the chemicals in pot. Don't forget they use pesticides to control the bugs, among other things...
I find myself agreeing with the last two posters quite a bit.
Anyway, it can be beneficial to some. Helps me to sleep and to eat.0 -
Bumping as well to read the different views, I gotta say this is interesting =D0
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imsoStarStruck, I liked your first reply more!
I can't imagine it having a huge effect, outside of increased appetite (which is worse in some people than others... for some it's an excuse to do the 'crazy munchies omg!' while others actually do experience the increased appetite).
As for alcohol, a few things: it won't stall your weight loss for 24 hours, but it is essentially pure empty calories/energy. In moderation it's fine, but shouldn't be used to replace other foods with nutrition. People may feel like it stalls their weightloss if A) they drink too much or they eat salty bar foods when they drink. 'A' is because of a calorie excess, while 'B' is probably due to water retention/sodium or excessive fried foods.
Now, as a home brewer, I have to take exception with people saying beer has more chemicals than weed (truth: neither has unnatural chemicals- but weed may have pesticides on it depending on your grower... halobender is 100% correct that you should 'know those who grow!'). Beer is not full of chemicals or other mystery processes, it's as natural as weed is. Beer is simply a malt-based (see: barley) mixture where carbohydrates + sugars are digested by yeast, producing alcohol and ethanol, respectively. Chemicals may be used for sterilization, but they are all safe and simple slightly-acid-based powders or mixes to kill bacteria. Bottled beer and tap beer has NO preservatives or additional additives, save flavoring like citrus, ginger, etc. Eating bread you buy at a store has exponentially more chemicals than beer.
So, drink beer and enjoy it!! (but record those calories!)0 -
Beer is a natural beautiful thing, as is weed. Half the public is walking around on xanax or some type of prescription drug. These are pills made of plants. There is no reason to think turning plants into white chalky pills is any healthier than the plants themselves. So let us agree, weed is a good thing. As is beer and wine.
Now, does weed cause weight gain or loss? When you are 13, weed causes munchies, and thus probably increased calories. When you're older and doing a bong hit after work, not so much. It simply sets you up for some dinner and mclovin.
If you consider what a decent buzz can do for your insight about weight loss, it can't but help. So all considered, I would recommend smoking weed as part of any healthy weight plan.0 -
Let's stop throwing around the term "natural". Snake venom is natural and you wouldn't put it in your body. It's a misnomer.0
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@anovasjo: Well, people do put it in their face as a form of botox . I agree that it's a bit beside the point, but both weed and alcohol are as natural as anything else on this green earth. It's not like LSD or something made specifically in a lab and not naturally occurring in nature.
@colonelangus: Amen brother, but I definitely have some friends who would never lose weight on weed haha. :laugh: Most of them would though, it's all about your motivation and tracking, just like any diet.0 -
It's now 4:20 p.m. Just in case anyone is interested.0
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Sorry, I was using the term in the sense that it comes from the ground without processing. Even prozac, etc. are natural in the sense they are derived from earthly ingredients. Let's not split hairs, weed and beer are about as natural as you're going to get. If you don't like beer drinking or weed smoking, attack it on its merits. Petty complaints on what "natural" means does nothing to advance the debate.0
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sweet bsox0
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Wow, this got intense! :laugh: And also a sticky subject (ha, no pun intended) I'm no expert or doctor of any kind.. but my personal experience has been of course eating my face off after smoking but I've also not gained a pound since I started smoking again. I don't smoke every day by any means but some weeks its 3 or 4 times and some weeks its just once. And I have very little will power when I'm sober let alone when I smoke so I really eat A LOT. I'm gonna keep on while the goin's good. lol :smokin:
To all those nay-sayers out there.. I'm guessing you've never smoked. :laugh: But as I've said to my friends who choose alcohol over weed, I don't have fun when I drink, I don't know when to say when, I make a fool out of myself and I get sick.. almost every time. Soo, WHY would I choose alcohol over weed? I can definitely keep myself in check with pot, I have fun no matter what, I sleep like a baby, and theres no hangover. Sounds like a common sense choice, and its also a personal choice. I don't hate on your alcohol so don't hate on those of us who happen to relax and have fun with something different than you. We all have our vices I suppose.0 -
Perfectly said Jenna. I won't judge against people who hate weed or alcohol, and I won't judge against people that love it. I agree though with what you say. Most people I know who have done cigarettes or weed or alcohol know that weed is the healthy choice. Cigs are just dumb and poisonous. Alcohol makes you do stupid things and causes traffic grief. Weed makes you just stay at home and party. It's obvious what's the best choice.0
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Im actaully an addictions counselor.... and I know a lot of my clients started doing various drugs and alcohol as a weight loss solution.
i do not recomend it at all.
any drug or alcohol can aid or hinder your weight loss... but its a quick fix, and after you become addicted its a harder battle and not worth it at all.
I do not recomend anyone take drugs as a means to lose weight.
In my working experience (and Ive never used drugs so I cant talk on a personal level)
Marijunia gives you the munchies and you eat and eat and eat when smoking
untill you become addicted.. and then marijunia stops giving you the effects you want, so you switch to a harder drug.. and thats when the weight loss comes in
but so does the decrease of health and motivation.. along with the loss of almost everything you have.
:huh:
I'm under the impression that you are telling us that marijuana is chemically addictive. y/n?
"the loss of almost everything you have"? That sounds awfully derogatory. I know plenty of pot smokers (myself included) who are extremely high functioning, very intelligent, and successful in their lives.
RIGHT!!?? Dont judge! From what I've seen, there are people including myself getting results!! And I've lowered my dependancy on prescription narcotics by over 50% and quite frankly I will take the side effect of marijuana all day every day compared to the never ending list of harmful potential side effects of every single prescription drug on the market!! Those side effects have included irreparable liver damage, constant digestive problems, and that's not even starting the warning labels printed on the bottle!
So, if you dont agree with medical marijuana treatment, thats fine, but do not assume because you only see the negative side of it that there isnt a positive. I have held my job for over 5 years, been a homeowner for almost 3, always enjoyed the finer things in life, and have always been the most responsible people I know.0 -
good luck though0
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I just took a bong hit. It made me rethink my thoughts of having cheese enchiladas for dinner. I'm going to have a nice salad instead. I figure I lost a pound in the process.0
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Willie Nelson doesn't appear to have a weight problem ... Just sayin...
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