"Paleo diet" - 70% fat???

I'm not disputing anyone's results eating a Paleo diet, but for me personally, eating fat DID make me fat. I lost my weight (and have kept it off) eating 50% carbs (predominantly whole grains), 25% protein, and 25% fat. My blood work indicates everything is in normal ranges now (and it wasn't before I lost my weight — my glucose was too high and my HDL was too low), and my blood pressure is lower than average (85/55).

So our bodies are equipped to eat something that was around 2 million years ago? Ever heard of human evolution and all the different skeletons that were dug up? You're saying their digestive systems were the same as us???

I know for me, eating low carb is not about a quick fix. I am sure my paleo friends didn't change their lifestyles because they wanted to be skinny. I am eating low carb on moral and health grounds. My doctor put me on a low carb diet to correct my blood panels (which it did). I was sick and tired both physically and mentally of my old way of eating.

curious as to the moral grounds. I have only heard vegetarians invoke this. Please explain

in terms of what you were responding to, if you want to lose weight fast, atkins is better...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12071424
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/cavemen/factfiles/paranthropus_boisei.html

Just throwing that out there.

But a new analysis of Neanderthal remains from across the world has found direct evidence that contradicts the chemical studies. Researchers found fossilised grains of vegetable material in their teeth and some of it was cooked.

Although pollen grains have been found before on Neanderthal sites and some in hearths, it is only now there is clear evidence that plant food was actually eaten by these people.

Err, all those species around then are extinct...

Yes it does state they ate both but also quote.

We have found pollen grains in Neanderthal sites before but you never know whether they were eating the plant or sleeping on them or what

...Err, there's a lot more reasons behind extinction besides diet. Weather conditions, fighting, famine (no good hunt or possibly poor gathering skills), disease? Actually, I saw an interesting show in the history channel that said two of the most logical explanations comes from the fact that their build required a lot more calories for proper function. Meat was a primary source, though not an only source, of food. When this was scarce, they were not necessarily good at finding plant foods and even so, the plant foods were not enough to sustain them. Between this and warring with Cro-Magnons and other groups of Neanderthalls, it's a pretty easy and logical explanation to their extinction. The Cro-Magnons ate a wider variety of vegetables in addition to the meats they ate up until about 10,000 years ago when they started farming more for food, thus resulting in higher consumption of the once uncommon food source of grains.

The first known Cro-Magnon species (which is what we are) is aged to about 35,000 years ago. They ate meat, veggies, fruits and nuts dominantly until farming became a more common practice.

...and you do realize "pollen grains" aren't actually a grain, right?

Err, all those species around then are extinct...

Yes it does state they ate both but also quote.

We have found pollen grains in Neanderthal sites before but you never know whether they were eating the plant or sleeping on them or what

...Err, there's a lot more reasons behind extinction besides diet. Weather conditions, fighting, famine (no good hunt or possibly poor gathering skills), disease? Actually, I saw an interesting show in the history channel that said two of the most logical explanations comes from the fact that their build required a lot more calories for proper function. Meat was a primary source, though not an only source, of food. When this was scarce, they were not necessarily good at finding plant foods and even so, the plant foods were not enough to sustain them. Between this and warring with Cro-Magnons and other groups of Neanderthalls, it's a pretty easy and logical explanation to their extinction. The Cro-Magnons ate a wider variety of vegetables in addition to the meats they ate up until about 10,000 years ago when they started farming more for food, thus resulting in higher consumption of the once uncommon food source of grains.

The first known Cro-Magnon species (which is what we are) is aged to about 35,000 years ago. They ate meat, veggies, fruits and nuts dominantly until farming became a more common practice.

...and you do realize "pollen grains" aren't actually a grain, right?

Yes, I quoted the wrong thing. Quoted what I wanted deleted. (Still, pollen grains have primarily carbohydrates.) And still questionable to how much they ate. Could be more or could be less.

I never said they were extinct because of diet. There is evidence of that they did eat more than just meat is what I'm trying to get across.

Err, all those species around then are extinct... I'm just saying, if we evolved from creatures like this, then why is it all of the sudden different.

I'm not arguing that grains are steroids. I'm saying that unless you have an allergy, I don't see the reason why grains are bad for you. I eat grains all the time and for a good part of my life. Never had a problem with it. A lot of people as well do not have a problem with it.

All of a sudden? No no no...we've only been using grains as a dominant food source for 10,000 years. Homo-sapiens have been around for 200,000 years. Within these years, I don't doubt people got their hands on corn and oats, but they were not likely staples of their diet as they are in modern times.

Grains cause inflammation in the body. Persistently eating grains can lead to chronic inflammation, whether you notice it or not. This inflammation is linked to a host of ailments including heart disease, allergies, joint problems and so on. They also break down into glucose much more easily than most natural foods which can cause insulin surges which can also lead to other problems like diabetes. They're also loaded with lectins which do all sorts bad stuff - like binding to intestinal lining and causing leptin resistance.

Just because you do not plainly see an immediate problem does not mean your body is not suffering. Lots of people don't see any problems...until they end up with diabetes for some strange reason in their 40s or realize they have some clogged arteries in their 50s, or start developing digestive problems in their 60s. Yes, some people will be more greatly impacted than others, but that doesn't imply you aren't going to be even remotely affect in your lifetime but a high consumption of grains.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/

The article explains why grains are bad. It also links to a couple of actual scientific studies. I have some more scientific studies of my own lined up, but I'm far too tired to dig them up and go into detail with them. But don't worry, I'll put it on my to-do list and assuming my boyfriend doesn't arrive too early tomorrow, I'll do it tomorrow morning. If he arrives earlier than expected, I'll post them Monday morning.

Err, all those species around then are extinct... I'm just saying, if we evolved from creatures like this, then why is it all of the sudden different.

I'm not arguing that grains are steroids. I'm saying that unless you have an allergy, I don't see the reason why grains are bad for you. I eat grains all the time and for a good part of my life. Never had a problem with it. A lot of people as well do not have a problem with it.

All of a sudden? No no no...we've only been using grains as a dominant food source for 10,000 years. Homo-sapiens have been around for 200,000 years. Within these years, I don't doubt people got their hands on corn and oats, but they were not likely staples of their diet as they are in modern times.

Grains cause inflammation in the body. Persistently eating grains can lead to chronic inflammation, whether you notice it or not. This inflammation is linked to a host of ailments including heart disease, allergies, joint problems and so on. They also break down into glucose much more easily than most natural foods which can cause insulin surges which can also lead to other problems like diabetes. They're also loaded with lectins which do all sorts bad stuff - like binding to intestinal lining and causing leptin resistance.

Just because you do not plainly see an immediate problem does not mean your body is not suffering. Lots of people don't see any problems...until they end up with diabetes for some strange reason in their 40s or realize they have some clogged arteries in their 50s, or start developing digestive problems in their 60s. Yes, some people will be more greatly impacted than others, but that doesn't imply you aren't going to be even remotely affect in your lifetime but a high consumption of grains.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/

The article explains why grains are bad. It also links to a couple of actual scientific studies. I have some more scientific studies of my own lined up, but I'm far too tired to dig them up and go into detail with them. But don't worry, I'll put it on my to-do list and assuming my boyfriend doesn't arrive too early tomorrow, I'll do it tomorrow morning. If he arrives earlier than expected, I'll post them Monday morning.

Most of those studies are people with celiac disease. The one's that are not really don't have much of a conclusion. I tried to find other studies in google scholar but have not come up with any results.