1200 Calorie Diet???? Seriously???
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HefferSprint wrote: »Another really good way to lose weight is to come here and preach. Folks will take bites out of your backside.
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I am happy to only eat 1200 calories some days! I am not a breakfast eater and by the time I get the calories in I need I am not hungry. There are other days I am ravenous and eat more (depends on my exercise). I don't think it's a set rule everyone is different! I am not going to make myself eat more if I am not hungry that to ME is silly.0
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Yup.WalkingAlong wrote: »No one says it cant work for someone. They say it cant work for everyone. Hope this helps.
In this forum, the argument usually is stated in the opposite direction: that 1200 calories is too little for anyone. That's untrue and works to the detriment of many people.
I disagree with your analysis of how this is "usually" stated.
Y'know, I was afraid to open this thread because I thought for sure it was 90%+ people decrying the horrors of 1200 calorie starvation. So I was pleasantly surprised to see it's more like the other way! So I guess I agree with you both. Usually, or historically, this place has treated 1200 like it's anorexia. But people seem to have loosened up.
The part that burns me is it's usually men claiming the horrors of 1200. Men who don't need to worry about it because they have the BMR that they can lose 2 lbs/week and not get near it. A lot of us have to hover around 1200 to lose 1 lb/week. Which is not a bad thing, only when people act like we're crash dieting or idiots or something for daring to risk our precious LBM instead of spending six months losing 10 lbs. 'the healthy way', i.e., their way.
For some, 1200 is much too low. For others, 1200 means losing .5 - 1 pound a week.
Telling someone who loses a pound or less a week that they need to add 25% more calories is silly.
Everyone is different.
There is no One, True Way for everyone.
And the "1200 is too low" normally starts is when it's a 19 yr old (who's usally 16 or 17 IRL) who is already a healthy weight.....or is really close....and is trying to lose the last few vanity lbs (but can't), is trying to do 1200 cals on 2hrs of cardio and not eating back a morsel of exercise cals.
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I struggle with an eating disorder and sometimes 1200 is a hard number for me to hit. Sometimes it's not!! I hate when "friends" give me grief for not eating more than 1200 calories. They say, "You'll lose weight if you eat more." No, I won't because I jacked my metabolism up from years of barely getting 600-800 calories a day! It takes time to recover from that. Not just physically, but mentally as well. And for someone in a situation similar to mine, 1200 calories can make you feel very full! I just hate when people think it's black and white, one size fits all. Pfft. I do me and you do you.
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Everyone is not the same. For me, low-calorie is sustainable because I enjoy healthy foods and know how to eat a lot of vegetables and fruits to get all my nutrients and control hunger. On a typical day I eat about 1200 cals a day of actual food and spend the rest of my budget on chocolate and alcohol in the evenings. I don't see why it's not sustainable. It will never be the case that I "don't have time" to eat right. I shop and cook even under times of stress, and it takes no more time to make a stirfry or salad than a burger.
What's not sustainable for me is exercise. I generally don't enjoy it and don't always have time for it. For me it is stupid to eat more if I just have to burn it off. I'd rather not eat in the first place.
My goal is weight loss, not body recomposition. I have plenty of muscle and don't really care how I look in a bathing suit. I just want to be thinner. Therefore, diet is all that matters.
Also, numbers that sound impossibly low for a 6'2" athletic man are perfectly reasonable for a 5'0" woman with a desk job. 1200 is not a magic number.0 -
Everyone is not the same. For me, low-calorie is sustainable because I enjoy healthy foods and know how to eat a lot of vegetables and fruits to get all my nutrients and control hunger. On a typical day I eat about 1200 cals a day of actual food and spend the rest of my budget on chocolate and alcohol in the evenings. I don't see why it's not sustainable. It will never be the case that I "don't have time" to eat right. I shop and cook even under times of stress, and it takes no more time to make a stirfry or salad than a burger.
What's not sustainable for me is exercise. I generally don't enjoy it and don't always have time for it. For me it is stupid to eat more if I just have to burn it off. I'd rather not eat in the first place.
My goal is weight loss, not body recomposition. I have plenty of muscle and don't really care how I look in a bathing suit. I just want to be thinner. Therefore, diet is all that matters.
Also, numbers that sound impossibly low for a 6'2" athletic man are perfectly reasonable for a 5'0" woman with a desk job. 1200 is not a magic number.
You're also a 45yr woman who I'm now guessing is 5ft. Few to no one would come in here and tell you 1200 is too low, if that is disclosed right away.0 -
I have days where I eat 1000. I also have days where I eat 2500. As long as it balances out at the end of the week, I'm doing just fine. People have a very skewed idea of what 'starving' is.0
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southcarolinaguy wrote: »Is it that time again already? Time for the you're-wrong-to-eat-1200-calories-a-day lecture? Sometimes MFP feels like Groundhog's Day and I'm Bill Murray.
hahaha, this one was the best!
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LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.0 -
LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?0 -
LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
Strictly speaking it is medically recognized no matter what the MFP experts say.
An internationally respected hernia hospital (Shouldice) uses those exact numbers for quick safe weight loss prior to operations.
I have eaten 1400 kcals per day (as a male) to lose 40 lbs. and have been in maintenance for two years now eating 2200-2400 kcals per day.
My health markers are fine. So it's wrong to say that it doesn't work or isn't advised by doctors because it is.2 -
LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
Strictly speaking it is medically recognized no matter what the MFP experts say.
An internationally respected hernia hospital (Shouldice) uses those exact numbers for quick safe weight loss prior to operations.
I have eaten 1400 kcals per day (as a male) to lose 40 lbs. and have been in maintenance for two years now eating 2200-2400 kcals per day.
My health markers are fine. So it's wrong to say that it doesn't work or isn't advised by doctors because it is.
So you agree that 1200 and 1500 is needed for most?
I'm not saying it's wrong to do, or it won't work. I'm saying that those levels aren't "required for most" in order to lose weight. To say so, IMHO, is pretty insane.0 -
Holy crap, this thread.
A perfect excuse for me to use my new favorite gif: <img>http://media.giphy.com/media/U0zvFbqJpVUFa/giphy.gif</img>
I have not seen an amalgm of crazy this diverse since I came into the forums, and that's saying something. We've got 1200 calorie-ers, anti-1200 calorie dudes, broscience, pseudo-science, crossfit coaches, beachbody, bacon, cat gifs, sugar, anti-sugar, newbs, CICO, anti-CICO (really, OP??), AND it's a zombie thread.
sniff- it's days like this I love MFP. -sniff.0 -
CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »Holy crap, this thread.
A perfect excuse for me to use my new favorite gif:
I have not seen an amalgm of crazy this diverse since I came into the forums, and that's saying something. We've got 1200 calorie-ers, anti-1200 calorie dudes, broscience, pseudo-science, crossfit coaches, beachbody, bacon, cat gifs, sugar, anti-sugar, newbs, CICO, anti-CICO (really, OP??), AND it's a zombie thread.
sniff- it's days like this I love MFP. -sniff.
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Nobody said required. One poster said it was INSANE!!!11!LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
Strictly speaking it is medically recognized no matter what the MFP experts say.
An internationally respected hernia hospital (Shouldice) uses those exact numbers for quick safe weight loss prior to operations.
I have eaten 1400 kcals per day (as a male) to lose 40 lbs. and have been in maintenance for two years now eating 2200-2400 kcals per day.
My health markers are fine. So it's wrong to say that it doesn't work or isn't advised by doctors because it is.
So you agree that 1200 and 1500 is needed for most?
I'm not saying it's wrong to do, or it won't work. I'm saying that those levels aren't "required for most" in order to lose weight. To say so, IMHO, is pretty insane.
They are wrong since it is technically medically approved. There is nothing wrong with that few calories in a nutritionally controlled deficit.
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Lasmartchika wrote: »CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »Holy crap, this thread.
A perfect excuse for me to use my new favorite gif:
I have not seen an amalgm of crazy this diverse since I came into the forums, and that's saying something. We've got 1200 calorie-ers, anti-1200 calorie dudes, broscience, pseudo-science, crossfit coaches, beachbody, bacon, cat gifs, sugar, anti-sugar, newbs, CICO, anti-CICO (really, OP??), AND it's a zombie thread.
sniff- it's days like this I love MFP. -sniff.
FIXED IT FOR YOU
Thank you!!!!
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Nobody said required. One poster said it was INSANE!!!11!LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
Strictly speaking it is medically recognized no matter what the MFP experts say.
An internationally respected hernia hospital (Shouldice) uses those exact numbers for quick safe weight loss prior to operations.
I have eaten 1400 kcals per day (as a male) to lose 40 lbs. and have been in maintenance for two years now eating 2200-2400 kcals per day.
My health markers are fine. So it's wrong to say that it doesn't work or isn't advised by doctors because it is.
So you agree that 1200 and 1500 is needed for most?
I'm not saying it's wrong to do, or it won't work. I'm saying that those levels aren't "required for most" in order to lose weight. To say so, IMHO, is pretty insane.
They are wrong since it is technically medically approved. There is nothing wrong with that few calories in a nutritionally controlled deficit.
Unless we're reading this wrong...1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
The way I'm reading it (and the other poster) is that it is recongnized to eat only 1200/1500 in order to lose weight.
I never said anything was wrong with that level. It saying that you need to eat that level in order to lose weight (at least that how I read what is written).0 -
To think this all started cuz the OP who's
felt they knew sssooo much more than anybody else... tsk tsk tsk... :grumble:fairly new to this forum
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No, it's not insane. 1200 for women is the standard, average answer for how many calories are needed. It won't work for everyone and isn't a magic number, but that's the standard answer given for how many calories are needed. People want a number. People always want a number, lol. That's the number they get.LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
So, no, I wouldn't say it was insane.
I certainly wouldn't say one person shouldn't eat 1200 calories because someone else can eat 1600. That isn't logical. I also wouldn't say that everyone should average 1200 calories because I do. That's illogical, too.
Everyone is different.
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i am 5ft 1 and i have a sedentry job i do 30-60 mins cardio 6 times a week and 1200 calories works for me. if i am hungry i will eat back some of my workout calories. going from 2000+ cals per day to 1200 was a big adjustment but i have now been doing this for a month and i dont have hunger pangs i dont have dizzy spells or light headedness and i am losing a steady 0.5-1.5lbs per week sometimes a fortnight. i feel healthy and fitter and i guess this works for me but my 5ft 7 work collegue ... no0
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and to mention i am 166lbs so i am obese for my height.0
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No, it's not insane. 1200 for women is the standard, average answer for how many calories are needed. It won't work for everyone and isn't a magic number, but that's the standard answer given for how many calories are needed. People want a number. People always want a number, lol. That's the number they get.LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
So, no, I wouldn't say it was insane.
I certainly wouldn't say one person shouldn't eat 1200 calories because someone else can eat 1600. That isn't logical. I also wouldn't say that everyone should average 1200 calories because I do. That's illogical, too.
Everyone is different.
So....telling at 24 yr old male that is overweight that he needs to eat 1500 cals in order to lose weight is cool? I mean, it's probably well below their BMR but 1500 is the standard. That's my point.
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Nobody said required. One poster said it was INSANE!!!11!LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
Strictly speaking it is medically recognized no matter what the MFP experts say.
An internationally respected hernia hospital (Shouldice) uses those exact numbers for quick safe weight loss prior to operations.
I have eaten 1400 kcals per day (as a male) to lose 40 lbs. and have been in maintenance for two years now eating 2200-2400 kcals per day.
My health markers are fine. So it's wrong to say that it doesn't work or isn't advised by doctors because it is.
So you agree that 1200 and 1500 is needed for most?
I'm not saying it's wrong to do, or it won't work. I'm saying that those levels aren't "required for most" in order to lose weight. To say so, IMHO, is pretty insane.
They are wrong since it is technically medically approved. There is nothing wrong with that few calories in a nutritionally controlled deficit.
Unless we're reading this wrong...1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
The way I'm reading it (and the other poster) is that it is recongnized to eat only 1200/1500 in order to lose weight.
I never said anything was wrong with that level. It saying that you need to eat that level in order to lose weight (at least that how I read what is written).
I think it is just poorly phrased and it's obvious to most readers that "needed" means minimum to reach nutritional requirements and the minimum safe amounts for weight loss. People pick the wrong battles to fight on this site and it gets tedious.
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I agree with the person who stated that everyone is different. I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia in July 2011. I went to see a dietician to learn what I need to do in order for my body not to go through these attacks and while I was there told her I would like to lose weight. I am 5' 1/4" tall. She gave me a 1200 calorie a day diet and to eat at least 45 proteins a day and more if possible. She told me what my to not go over as far as carbs, etc. She put me on 6 meals a day... 3 meals... 3 snacks and how much carbs total for each. Once I reach where I wanted she was going to have me up my calories. I did really great for a while, but I am a sweet-a-holic and fell off the wagon. I've recently started using her advice again.
I guess what I am saying is that not everyone is made the same. Age, height, sex, body type are all factors including exercise in how many calories. I'm sticking with what my dietician told me and I'm getting plenty. I do go over some but I'm not a dieter so this is gonna be a slow change for me to start eating right.
Good luck everyone! Don't get discouraged!
I'm hypoglycemic too! We're sweet-a-holics because we're hypoglycemic and are hypoglycemic because we're sweet-a-holics. Hahaha. The cycle.
Good luck to you.
I personally find it difficult on some days to reach 1200. It would be more uncomfortable to stuff myself when I'm not hungry.
Low fat dairy is worse for someone like me than full fat. Different fruits and vegetables, carbs..they all affect people in different ways. You eat what you can, when you feel hungry, and figure out what works for you. There isn't a one size fits all eating plan.0 -
stunningalmond wrote: »Does coffee count as water?
It apparently depends on who you talk to.
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It would depend on the specific needs of the person.
No, it's not insane. 1200 for women is the standard, average answer for how many calories are needed. It won't work for everyone and isn't a magic number, but that's the standard answer given for how many calories are needed. People want a number. People always want a number, lol. That's the number they get.LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »ewarren1985 wrote: »I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.
I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.
So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
-Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
-Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
-Drink water, all day long
-Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
-Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
-Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
-Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
-Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
-Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar
This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
So, no, I wouldn't say it was insane.
I certainly wouldn't say one person shouldn't eat 1200 calories because someone else can eat 1600. That isn't logical. I also wouldn't say that everyone should average 1200 calories because I do. That's illogical, too.
Everyone is different.
So....telling at 24 yr old male that is overweight that he needs to eat 1500 cals in order to lose weight is cool? I mean, apparently it is the standard so they won't lose on 1800+ won't work, right? That's my point.
It's the standard amount of necessary calories. The average person needs that many. But very few people are average and, as has been said over and over, it depends on the person.
Different people have different needs.
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Nobody said required. One poster said it was INSANE!!!11!LiveLaughLoveEat1 wrote: »[quote="ewarren1985;30264349
So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!
I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:
1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook
On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)
Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."
All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.
In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!
Her doctor gave her information for her, not for you.
You should follow the advice the doctor gives you and she should follow the advice the doctor gives her. Different people get different advice.1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
You saw that the above quote was bolded, so that is what the poster was calling insane (and quite honestly is)....right?
Strictly speaking it is medically recognized no matter what the MFP experts say.
An internationally respected hernia hospital (Shouldice) uses those exact numbers for quick safe weight loss prior to operations.
I have eaten 1400 kcals per day (as a male) to lose 40 lbs. and have been in maintenance for two years now eating 2200-2400 kcals per day.
My health markers are fine. So it's wrong to say that it doesn't work or isn't advised by doctors because it is.
So you agree that 1200 and 1500 is needed for most?
I'm not saying it's wrong to do, or it won't work. I'm saying that those levels aren't "required for most" in order to lose weight. To say so, IMHO, is pretty insane.
They are wrong since it is technically medically approved. There is nothing wrong with that few calories in a nutritionally controlled deficit.
Unless we're reading this wrong...1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).
The way I'm reading it (and the other poster) is that it is recongnized to eat only 1200/1500 in order to lose weight.
I never said anything was wrong with that level. It saying that you need to eat that level in order to lose weight (at least that how I read what is written).I think it is just poorly phrased and it's obvious to most readers that "needed" means minimum to reach nutritional requirements and the minimum safe amounts for weight loss. People pick the wrong battles to fight on this site and it gets tedious.
I read "needed for weight loss" as 1200/1500 is the intake required in order to lose weight.
I'm not here to pick battles. I like to make sure that information is as clear as possible because there's more than one noob that lurks these boards looking for direction.0 -
FrankiesSaysRelax wrote: »Anything that eliminates mayo sounds dumb.
hahahahhahah!!!
Nice.
Seriously though, on this topic - humans aren't all the same size and our bodies don't all have the same requirements. *Shrug* That is all.0 -
I haven't had more than 1,000 calories in 3 months, I have dropped weight, walk 4 miles a day and bike 15 on the weekend. My blood work great, I'm being super efficient in my food intake and I haven't felt this good in so long that it's basically a new feeling.
I am sick of hearing people tell me that it is unhealthy - especially when my Internal Medicine Doctor and Licensed Registered Dietician (Wife) have not only blessed my diet but have the blood tests, pulse / blood pressure, etc... to demonstrate that I am actually more healthy by every measure than before.
If you cannot tolerate less than 1,000 calories, don't try it. But unless you are a doctor / licensed dietician giving advice to anyone specifically, keep your mouth shut.1 -
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