women who dont shave
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^ I do believe I've had massages that were more painful. lol.0
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I shave most of the time, but when I have bouts of severe depression, I just can't and I wish men would be a little more understanding of that.0
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »Feminism just means that I can shave or not shave, wear whatever kind of skin products and shoes I prefer, and get paid the same as my coworkers who do the same job...or I can choose to stay home and raise kids if that's what I want, without some group of feminazis calling me a sellout. I don't get why people have to be so judgmental over something as mundane as body hair.
The double standard is idiotic. If armpit hair is "gross" or "smelly" on a woman, then obviously it is on a man, too. (In fact, in my experience, it's usually smellier on a man, as men on average seem to sweat more.) Having a preference is one thing, but having your attraction to a woman suddenly evaporate just because you find she doesn't enjoy torturing her skin with a razor is just stupid. Hopefully you're upfront about it so she can know she dodged a bullet. If you're that hung up on body hair, then what other absurd, trite little hangups might you have?
well I can't speak for all males, but over the past two years, excluding the past few months with my current gf - I have dated well over 6-8 new women a month so I have seen it all, various races, age groups, different personality types (not saying I slept with many of them, strictly entertained them all on at least 1 date)- but the following were big to me:
mannerisms - she better behave like a lady, I'm not trying to date #lightboyversion
Confidence - if she lacks it then she is a loser.
Witty - if she can't crack a joke she is a boring date.
Romantic - candles and poems better go far.
Healthy - I'm not ganna be taking some addict cig smoker out -
Gracious - has to be quick to forgive dating me
assumption of good will - she must assume I'm 'not like other guys'
Good in bed - obviously she doesn't need to be a porn star, but she needs to either be good or willing to do anything I lead into.
sexy
Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
Quick to laugh - I am full of jokes, she needs to be quick in conversation
Willing to stand up for herself - I don't like dating Ms. no confidence head nodding to everything - if she disagrees and has an opinion I love to hear it out
Speaks multiple languages - a very very good and sexy thing
Educated - needs to have at the very least a bachelors degree
High IQ - willing to keep up in abstract conversation
Loyal - having some integrity
Trusting - has to trust I'm not sleeping with every girl that tries to sleep with me
Fashion expert - I dress incredibly well, she doesn't need to be rocking only designer brands- but she does need to dress phenomenal
obviously groomed
Long hair - I've dumped women for having haircuts I'm not fond of - and if it isn't long then it looks masculine and bad period.
Silly - she has to be willing to tease me and get silly and goofy
Parents are together - I won't date a chick with daddy issues
No emotional baggage - I took a class from emory university and am well aware that 1/5 or 1/6 women has been sexually assaulted - that is ok - however if they are still hurting and not over it all I don't have time to deal with it - 1 bad case was enough
Mature - being modest - but sexy
a role model - I like seeing her friends and family look up to her
This is the most childish thing I've ever read. Do you really think a woman cares whether you like her haircut? We cut our hair based on what WE like. We don't need a man's approval.
ETA: If you dump a woman because you don't like her new do, I hope she runs for the hills and never looks back because who wants to be with someone who is that judgmental? Give me a break.
Oh yeah? Well you're a big smelly poo face.0 -
i dont think its gross when people do or dont. but i look better when i do, in my opinion.
that said, until i started going to the gym and therefor still wearing shorts in winter, i tended to never shave my legs after september until april or so.
i cant stand how they leg hairs get pulled by socks or leggings though.0 -
armpits, yeah I think shaven is best. its not like it takes ages to do in the shower. im lucky that my leg hairs don't get very long or scratchy so I can get away with not shaving for ages, and I wear pants/leggings 95% of the time. and if I do, its a treat. if I had thick, dark hairs I'd be a bit more vigilant with keeping it off, or covered up0
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I don't shave my legs much in Winter - too lazy I walk around like a monkey lol0
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It's a free country..each to their own. I work with a blonde girl who doesn't shave her armpits or legs. In winter she has a denim coat with a badge on it that says " tell me again why I have to shave?". She is not a conformist in many ways. She is an interesting girl.0
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »Seriously who shaves anymore or even waxes for that matter?
It's all about laser hair removal and has been for awhile.
L-A-S-E-R!
It's affordable, quick, safe, non invasive and doesn't even hurt that much. Over the course of two years, I had my whole body zapped and that fur has never grown back.
It's a wonderful thing.
I'm really considering getting zapped. I can't not shave. I've tried. Body hair doesn't bother me at all, but the feel of it on my body really does. The stubble rubbing makes me so crazy that I've gotten up in the middle of the night to shave so I could get some sleep (it's okay, I know I'm crazy).
So, what's the ballpark definition of affordable? Like under $5k? Sorry (but only a little) if I'm being too nosy.
Check groupon, there is a salon where I live that regularly does groupon deals for unlimited visits for a year for around $150-$450 depending on how big of an area you are getting done (lower end is face, higher end is full body).
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sheepotato wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »Seriously who shaves anymore or even waxes for that matter?
It's all about laser hair removal and has been for awhile.
L-A-S-E-R!
It's affordable, quick, safe, non invasive and doesn't even hurt that much. Over the course of two years, I had my whole body zapped and that fur has never grown back.
It's a wonderful thing.
I'm really considering getting zapped. I can't not shave. I've tried. Body hair doesn't bother me at all, but the feel of it on my body really does. The stubble rubbing makes me so crazy that I've gotten up in the middle of the night to shave so I could get some sleep (it's okay, I know I'm crazy).
So, what's the ballpark definition of affordable? Like under $5k? Sorry (but only a little) if I'm being too nosy.
Check groupon, there is a salon where I live that regularly does groupon deals for unlimited visits for a year for around $150-$450 depending on how big of an area you are getting done (lower end is face, higher end is full body).
Wow. I would totally do full body for $450.. EXCEPT I'd leave a landing strip on my lady part because I have issue with looking prepubescent.0 -
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MFP way. Turn a poll into an argument.0
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MrTolerable wrote: »
mannerisms - she better behave like a lady, I'm not trying to date #lightboyversion
Confidence - if she lacks it then she is a loser.
Witty - if she can't crack a joke she is a boring date.
Romantic - candles and poems better go far.
Healthy - I'm not ganna be taking some addict cig smoker out -
Gracious - has to be quick to forgive dating me
assumption of good will - she must assume I'm 'not like other guys'
Good in bed - obviously she doesn't need to be a porn star, but she needs to either be good or willing to do anything I lead into.
sexy
Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
Quick to laugh - I am full of jokes, she needs to be quick in conversation
Willing to stand up for herself - I don't like dating Ms. no confidence head nodding to everything - if she disagrees and has an opinion I love to hear it out
Speaks multiple languages - a very very good and sexy thing
Educated - needs to have at the very least a bachelors degree
High IQ - willing to keep up in abstract conversation
Loyal - having some integrity
Trusting - has to trust I'm not sleeping with every girl that tries to sleep with me
Fashion expert - I dress incredibly well, she doesn't need to be rocking only designer brands- but she does need to dress phenomenal
obviously groomed
Long hair - I've dumped women for having haircuts I'm not fond of - and if it isn't long then it looks masculine and bad period.
Silly - she has to be willing to tease me and get silly and goofy
Parents are together - I won't date a chick with daddy issues
No emotional baggage - I took a class from emory university and am well aware that 1/5 or 1/6 women has been sexually assaulted - that is ok - however if they are still hurting and not over it all I don't have time to deal with it - 1 bad case was enough
Mature - being modest - but sexy
a role model - I like seeing her friends and family look up to her
There is so much on here that blows my mind because it sounds like some crazy unreachable standards! Okay, so some of them I totally understand but some of these just are ridiculous and seem very stereotypical. Every person is different. Also, with your good in bed/Moral seem to contradict themselves. You want them to be willing to do things YOU lead into right? Well if you lead into sex on the first 3 dates and they do that then YOU set them up for not being "wifey material" even though you initiated it if you decide to sleep together in your set up time frame. Also, I don't have any sort of degree but I am VERY intelligent. I don't need a piece of paper to show that I can hold an intellectual conversation on a wide range of topics ranging from current events, pop culture, literature, politics, and art. As for the haircuts....to me that is ridiculous. It's HAIR. It grows back out! Plus, it should be about the person she is. Don't soley base your feelings on her looks. Looks fade over time BUT the person on the inside lasts forever. Also, some girls don't want to wear a mini dress and heels all the time. I usually prefer jeans, t-shirt or plad button up and my boots. If a man can't find that sexy sometimes he isn't worth MY time.
Now the one that was my breaking point and why I felt totally compelled to comment. Not all girls from divorced parents have "Daddy Issues"! My parents split up when I was 13 and I am fine. My dad and I are actually very close. Same with my mom. I mean I guess I lucked out because after the divorce my parents stayed very good friends. You can't generalize people based on things like this because not all people are the same. Everyone's situation is different. I am not saying don't have standards but some of these were just horribly worded and seem just absurd. If it works for you, great to each his own but I hope to the good lord above there aren't other people with laundry lists like this of standards.
/endrant (sorry I had to say something)
As for the brazilian wax thing that video that keeps coming up is cracking me up at my desk here at work!1 -
In the winter I definately slack on the shaving and just cover up. I tried waxing to see if the hair would grow back in finer, without the blunt shaved end the hair should be thinner. However I did the wax at home and didn't get all the hairs so it didn't quite work out. Also I could not really get my armpits with the wax kit. Right now I'm debating on getting a professional wax and then seeing how it grows in. I've also debated getting a No No but the ratings are so mixed I'm leary to spend the money. But seriously I hate shaving and would like to stop, what a freankin hassel! It doesn't bother me at all if other women don't shave.1
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yourradimradletshug wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »
mannerisms - she better behave like a lady, I'm not trying to date #lightboyversion
Confidence - if she lacks it then she is a loser.
Witty - if she can't crack a joke she is a boring date.
Romantic - candles and poems better go far.
Healthy - I'm not ganna be taking some addict cig smoker out -
Gracious - has to be quick to forgive dating me
assumption of good will - she must assume I'm 'not like other guys'
Good in bed - obviously she doesn't need to be a porn star, but she needs to either be good or willing to do anything I lead into.
sexy
Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
Quick to laugh - I am full of jokes, she needs to be quick in conversation
Willing to stand up for herself - I don't like dating Ms. no confidence head nodding to everything - if she disagrees and has an opinion I love to hear it out
Speaks multiple languages - a very very good and sexy thing
Educated - needs to have at the very least a bachelors degree
High IQ - willing to keep up in abstract conversation
Loyal - having some integrity
Trusting - has to trust I'm not sleeping with every girl that tries to sleep with me
Fashion expert - I dress incredibly well, she doesn't need to be rocking only designer brands- but she does need to dress phenomenal
obviously groomed
Long hair - I've dumped women for having haircuts I'm not fond of - and if it isn't long then it looks masculine and bad period.
Silly - she has to be willing to tease me and get silly and goofy
Parents are together - I won't date a chick with daddy issues
No emotional baggage - I took a class from emory university and am well aware that 1/5 or 1/6 women has been sexually assaulted - that is ok - however if they are still hurting and not over it all I don't have time to deal with it - 1 bad case was enough
Mature - being modest - but sexy
a role model - I like seeing her friends and family look up to her
There is so much on here that blows my mind because it sounds like some crazy unreachable standards! Okay, so some of them I totally understand but some of these just are ridiculous and seem very stereotypical. Every person is different. Also, with your good in bed/Moral seem to contradict themselves. You want them to be willing to do things YOU lead into right? Well if you lead into sex on the first 3 dates and they do that then YOU set them up for not being "wifey material" even though you initiated it if you decide to sleep together in your set up time frame. Also, I don't have any sort of degree but I am VERY intelligent. I don't need a piece of paper to show that I can hold an intellectual conversation on a wide range of topics ranging from current events, pop culture, literature, politics, and art. As for the haircuts....to me that is ridiculous. It's HAIR. It grows back out! Plus, it should be about the person she is. Don't soley base your feelings on her looks. Looks fade over time BUT the person on the inside lasts forever. Also, some girls don't want to wear a mini dress and heels all the time. I usually prefer jeans, t-shirt or plad button up and my boots. If a man can't find that sexy sometimes he isn't worth MY time.
Now the one that was my breaking point and why I felt totally compelled to comment. Not all girls from divorced parents have "Daddy Issues"! My parents split up when I was 13 and I am fine. My dad and I are actually very close. Same with my mom. I mean I guess I lucked out because after the divorce my parents stayed very good friends. You can't generalize people based on things like this because not all people are the same. Everyone's situation is different. I am not saying don't have standards but some of these were just horribly worded and seem just absurd. If it works for you, great to each his own but I hope to the good lord above there aren't other people with laundry lists like this of standards.
/endrant (sorry I had to say something)
As for the brazilian wax thing that video that keeps coming up is cracking me up at my desk here at work!
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MrTolerable wrote: »
mannerisms - she better behave like a lady, I'm not trying to date #lightboyversion
Confidence - if she lacks it then she is a loser.
Witty - if she can't crack a joke she is a boring date.
Romantic - candles and poems better go far.
Healthy - I'm not ganna be taking some addict cig smoker out -
Gracious - has to be quick to forgive dating me
assumption of good will - she must assume I'm 'not like other guys'
Good in bed - obviously she doesn't need to be a porn star, but she needs to either be good or willing to do anything I lead into.
sexy
Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
Quick to laugh - I am full of jokes, she needs to be quick in conversation
Willing to stand up for herself - I don't like dating Ms. no confidence head nodding to everything - if she disagrees and has an opinion I love to hear it out
Speaks multiple languages - a very very good and sexy thing
Educated - needs to have at the very least a bachelors degree
High IQ - willing to keep up in abstract conversation
Loyal - having some integrity
Trusting - has to trust I'm not sleeping with every girl that tries to sleep with me
Fashion expert - I dress incredibly well, she doesn't need to be rocking only designer brands- but she does need to dress phenomenal
obviously groomed
Long hair - I've dumped women for having haircuts I'm not fond of - and if it isn't long then it looks masculine and bad period.
Silly - she has to be willing to tease me and get silly and goofy
Parents are together - I won't date a chick with daddy issues
No emotional baggage - I took a class from emory university and am well aware that 1/5 or 1/6 women has been sexually assaulted - that is ok - however if they are still hurting and not over it all I don't have time to deal with it - 1 bad case was enough
Mature - being modest - but sexy
a role model - I like seeing her friends and family look up to her
So much funny on his girlfriend application. Please fill in do you have daddy issues?0 -
eesh. No thanks but to each their own.0
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Ugh, don't feed the troll guys.0
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Me personally...I have to shave/wax...feels so much better.0
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^^^^^^Good information0
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