two thousand calories in a single meal
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TheWorstHorse wrote: »I love Men's Health "Eat This, Not That" --both the books and the articles they do that shows the calories in restaurant food and a better alternative. Cheesecake Factory always comes in with dishes absolutely loaded in calories, fat and sodium.
And there's nothing wrong with fat or sodium.
In fact, some of us are supposed to eat higher sodium diets, like myself.
you are right: there's nothing inherently wrong with eating fat or sodium. or sugar. or protein. or carbohydrates. like, for example, there would be with eating drano. but for for the average joe, regularly eating 2000 calories of sugar and fat as a meal is not going to turn out well in the long run.
The only thing I can think of that is only sugar and fat is olive oil mixed with sugar. And that was indeed a post of the forums yesterday. As a skin scrub.
No one is going to eat olive oil mixed with sugar. Unless they're dared to.
What restuarant meal is just fat and sugar?
Because even that Sonic shake has protein.
I couldn't find a PB Caramel shake on their site.
But here's the PB shake.
A large is 1640 cals and has 28g of protein.
http://www.sonicdrivein.com/MenuItem/frozen-zone/real-ice-cream-shakes/peanut-butter-shake
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TheWorstHorse wrote: »from the new york times today, photos and descriptions of what two thousand calories looks like...
my favorite is the 2090 calorie shake from sonic. you read that right... a whole day's worth of calories in a single cup.
comparing the chain restaurant stuff to homemade meals is pretty strong support for the idea that the more often you cook at home, the less likely you are to be seriously overweight.
Wow, that was incredibly stupid. Intentionally choosing the highest calorie menu items in a restaurant, then intentionally choosing the lowest calorie items for home. Completely disingenuous. I could very easily eat at Chipotle for less than 2000 calories, and I can very easily make a home cooked meal of 3000 calories or more.
Complete waste of time article, other than to show off some great restaurant food choices to indulge in. It doesn't come anywhere close to supporting "the more often you cook at home, the less likely you are to be seriously overweight." Heck, I could bake a loaf of bread with about 1900 calories in it right now, then sit down and eat the entire loaf with 500 or 600 calories worth of butter. That's "home cooked," yet way over their 2000 calorie limit. It's not about restaurant vs home, it's about making intelligent decisions, no matter where you eat.0 -
This was a great article to read. I'm curious what PF Changs does to spinach to make it 120 calories!? Calling Paula Deen and her butter wagon!!0
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If no one's claimed iHop...
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goddessofawesome wrote: »Sure if you're eating the entire meal. Very rarely when I go out do I eat my entire meal because it's just too much food. I've gotten 2-3 meals out of just one plate of food.
but you aren't like most people i am afraid...
this past saturday i sat in a sharis (like dennys) for a couple of hours, waiting for someone. i had two poached eggs, two slices of toast, a slice of ham and tea. a pretty reasonable meal. and i watched the people around me order the normal sharis breakfast which, i would bet, averaged 2000 calories or more, especially for the folks who had the giant mocha latte.
not a single person in my sight left with a takeout box and nine out of ten people got their clean plate club stickers. the reality is that most people (a) don't split their meals down to reasonable portion sizes and (b) have little idea just how many calories they are eating when they eat out.
i mean, that is how us average folk - of which i am surely one - get fat in the first place. we are eating too much food, too often. and i think the point of the article is to help people understand the importance of (a) and (b) when they eat out.
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This was a great article to read. I'm curious what PF Changs does to spinach to make it 120 calories!? Calling Paula Deen and her butter wagon!!
Saute in olive oil. or butter. maybe add cheese?
I've never been to a PF Changs but it's not hard to make spinach high cal.
ETA: I looked it up. A small side of spinach is 120cals, 8g of fat. It's sstir-fried with garlic.
So half a table spoon of olive oil with 1.5c of spinach0 -
Ha, I've had that exact McDonald's meal at the bottom many a depressed lonely nights in the military.0
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TheWorstHorse wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »Sure if you're eating the entire meal. Very rarely when I go out do I eat my entire meal because it's just too much food. I've gotten 2-3 meals out of just one plate of food.
but you aren't like most people i am afraid...
this past saturday i sat in a sharis (like dennys) for a couple of hours, waiting for someone. i had two poached eggs, two slices of toast, a slice of ham and tea. a pretty reasonable meal. and i watched the people around me order the normal sharis breakfast which, i would bet, averaged 2000 calories or more, especially for the folks who had the giant mocha latte.
not a single person in my sight left with a takeout box and nine out of ten people got their clean plate club stickers. the reality is that most people (a) don't split their meals down to reasonable portion sizes and (b) have little idea just how many calories they are eating when they eat out.
i mean, that is how us average folk - of which i am surely one - get fat in the first place. we are eating too much food, too often. and i think the point of the article is to help people understand the importance of (a) and (b) when they eat out.
Get off your high horse. Seriously.
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Yet meanwhile, I almost never go to a restaurant without seeing most people (at my table and others) taking to go boxes home with them. Funny how you can condition yourself to only see what you want to believe.TheWorstHorse wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »Sure if you're eating the entire meal. Very rarely when I go out do I eat my entire meal because it's just too much food. I've gotten 2-3 meals out of just one plate of food.
but you aren't like most people i am afraid...
this past saturday i sat in a sharis (like dennys) for a couple of hours, waiting for someone. i had two poached eggs, two slices of toast, a slice of ham and tea. a pretty reasonable meal. and i watched the people around me order the normal sharis breakfast which, i would bet, averaged 2000 calories or more, especially for the folks who had the giant mocha latte.
not a single person in my sight left with a takeout box and nine out of ten people got their clean plate club stickers. the reality is that most people (a) don't split their meals down to reasonable portion sizes and (b) have little idea just how many calories they are eating when they eat out.
i mean, that is how us average folk - of which i am surely one - get fat in the first place. we are eating too much food, too often. and i think the point of the article is to help people understand the importance of (a) and (b) when they eat out.-1 -
TheWorstHorse wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »Sure if you're eating the entire meal. Very rarely when I go out do I eat my entire meal because it's just too much food. I've gotten 2-3 meals out of just one plate of food.
but you aren't like most people i am afraid...
this past saturday i sat in a sharis (like dennys) for a couple of hours, waiting for someone. i had two poached eggs, two slices of toast, a slice of ham and tea. a pretty reasonable meal. and i watched the people around me order the normal sharis breakfast which, i would bet, averaged 2000 calories or more, especially for the folks who had the giant mocha latte.
not a single person in my sight left with a takeout box and nine out of ten people got their clean plate club stickers. the reality is that most people (a) don't split their meals down to reasonable portion sizes and (b) have little idea just how many calories they are eating when they eat out.
i mean, that is how us average folk - of which i am surely one - get fat in the first place. we are eating too much food, too often. and i think the point of the article is to help people understand the importance of (a) and (b) when they eat out.
"Not a single person in my sight". Ok, so how about the people that you didn't see? The people who left before you came in? Those who came in after you? To say that no one gets take away from their table is pretty ridiculous. I almost always see people leaving establishments with to-go boxes.
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TheWorstHorse wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »Sure if you're eating the entire meal. Very rarely when I go out do I eat my entire meal because it's just too much food. I've gotten 2-3 meals out of just one plate of food.
but you aren't like most people i am afraid...
this past saturday i sat in a sharis (like dennys) for a couple of hours, waiting for someone. i had two poached eggs, two slices of toast, a slice of ham and tea. a pretty reasonable meal. and i watched the people around me order the normal sharis breakfast which, i would bet, averaged 2000 calories or more, especially for the folks who had the giant mocha latte.
not a single person in my sight left with a takeout box and nine out of ten people got their clean plate club stickers. the reality is that most people (a) don't split their meals down to reasonable portion sizes and (b) have little idea just how many calories they are eating when they eat out.
i mean, that is how us average folk - of which i am surely one - get fat in the first place. we are eating too much food, too often. and i think the point of the article is to help people understand the importance of (a) and (b) when they eat out.
Get off your high horse. Seriously.
that's actually funny coming from you.
at this point, i imagine this conversation is pretty much done. have a good day.0 -
My favourite is Boston Pizza's Baked Chipotle Bacon Penne (1470 cal) with a Caesar side salad (210 cal), garlic toast (180 cal) and half of the cactus cut potatoes to start (415 cal) for a grand total of 2275 cal).
That isn't what you're asking though. But... you know what? Food. That's what. Hahah I used to eat that meal at least once a week (and it wasn't my only meal).0 -
well yeah- they either get fat doing it- or they don't do it that often.TheWorstHorse wrote: »I love Men's Health "Eat This, Not That" --both the books and the articles they do that shows the calories in restaurant food and a better alternative. Cheesecake Factory always comes in with dishes absolutely loaded in calories, fat and sodium.
And there's nothing wrong with fat or sodium.
In fact, some of us are supposed to eat higher sodium diets, like myself.
you are right: there's nothing inherently wrong with eating fat or sodium. or sugar. or protein. or carbohydrates. like, for example, there would be with eating drano. but for for the average joe, regularly eating 2000 calories of sugar and fat as a meal is not going to turn out well in the long run.
it's pretty self explanatory.0 -
TheWorstHorse wrote: »TheWorstHorse wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »Sure if you're eating the entire meal. Very rarely when I go out do I eat my entire meal because it's just too much food. I've gotten 2-3 meals out of just one plate of food.
but you aren't like most people i am afraid...
this past saturday i sat in a sharis (like dennys) for a couple of hours, waiting for someone. i had two poached eggs, two slices of toast, a slice of ham and tea. a pretty reasonable meal. and i watched the people around me order the normal sharis breakfast which, i would bet, averaged 2000 calories or more, especially for the folks who had the giant mocha latte.
not a single person in my sight left with a takeout box and nine out of ten people got their clean plate club stickers. the reality is that most people (a) don't split their meals down to reasonable portion sizes and (b) have little idea just how many calories they are eating when they eat out.
i mean, that is how us average folk - of which i am surely one - get fat in the first place. we are eating too much food, too often. and i think the point of the article is to help people understand the importance of (a) and (b) when they eat out.
Get off your high horse. Seriously.
that's actually funny coming from you.
at this point, i imagine this conversation is pretty much done. have a good day.
I'm on a high horse? LOL, no.
On the list of stuff you originally posted, I'd eat most of it - minus the things with bacon and the spinach from PF Changs - I don't eat pork and I prefer my spinach raw.
You're the one sitting here judging people at the diner. You don't know their lives. People practice OMAD. Could be a re-feed day. They could be bulking. That 3k meal very well could be a deficit for them and they practice IF. Helped a guy yesterday who needs 3700 cals. If you practice IF and go out for a meal, very easy to hit those calorie goals.
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The piece of cake "roughly the size of someone's head" looks AMAZING...
But yes, fast food restaurants have a lot to answer for, but then again, if as consumers we told these chains that we want lower calorie meals I'm pretty sure they'd deliver. It would be good business.0 -
You pulling a random number out of your *kitten* doesn't help either.
My point still stands. He doesn't know their life and can't judge them based off of that one meal he saw.
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You pulling a random number out of your *kitten* doesn't help either.
My point still stands. He doesn't know their life and can't judge them based off of that one meal he saw.
Since he did, he obviously can.
Obviously.
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I don't find that this article enlightened me, but I do think it's kind of neat to see this comparison in pictures.0
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You. Me. Supper. Let's go.My favourite is Boston Pizza's Baked Chipotle Bacon Penne (1470 cal) with a Caesar side salad (210 cal), garlic toast (180 cal) and half of the cactus cut potatoes to start (415 cal) for a grand total of 2275 cal).
That isn't what you're asking though. But... you know what? Food. That's what. Hahah I used to eat that meal at least once a week (and it wasn't my only meal).
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How the hell does PF Chang's manage to turn spinach into 120 calories?? That's a lot of oil.0
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8 grams of oil, 100 grams of spinach = 23 cals:
8 * 9 = 72 cals from oil, 213 grams of spinach = rest of cals.
According to USDA, 30 grams of spinach is one cup, so 7 cups of spinach.
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One tablespoon of oil is ~13g -> 107 calories. That leaves about 60g of spinach, which is about two cups worth.
Anyway, the answers are all similar - it's basically all fat-calories from oil.0 -
goddessofawesome wrote: »Sure if you're eating the entire meal. Very rarely when I go out do I eat my entire meal because it's just too much food. I've gotten 2-3 meals out of just one plate of food.
Some people don't do that, though. I tend to eat whatever's on my plate and on the 2-times-in-a year occasions that I do have leftovers in a to go box, they'll probably be consumed by the end of the night or thrown away.
I eat what's on my plate if I order a 2,300 calorie pasta from Outback Steakhouse or a 490 entrée from the light menu someplace. And although it sounds insane, I feel equally satisfied both ways. I guess people like me are why this website exists LOL.
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kendalslimmer wrote: »The piece of cake "roughly the size of someone's head" looks AMAZING...
But yes, fast food restaurants have a lot to answer for, but then again, if as consumers we told these chains that we want lower calorie meals I'm pretty sure they'd deliver. It would be good business.
Psst ... They already do deliver lower calorie meals. I guess you missed the earlier post about how the article cherry picked the highest calorie meals at each restaurant.
It's not difficult to put together a < 500 cal meal at most fast food places.0 -
I want Chipotle and Cheesecake Factory now. Crap.
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One tablespoon of oil is ~13g -> 107 calories. That leaves about 60g of spinach, which is about two cups worth.
Anyway, the answers are all similar - it's basically all fat-calories from oil.
and I don't know anyone who measures out EXACTLY a tablespoon- I do my best to measure out my butter and oils- but 1 Tbsp just does NOT go that far.
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One tablespoon of oil is ~13g -> 107 calories. That leaves about 60g of spinach, which is about two cups worth.
Anyway, the answers are all similar - it's basically all fat-calories from oil.
and I don't know anyone who measures out EXACTLY a tablespoon- I do my best to measure out my butter and oils- but 1 Tbsp just does NOT go that far.
Personally I would add a fudge factor to any number taken from PF Chang's official nutritional info.
A big fudge factor....
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