detox/juice/short term intense diet

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  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    [I think you're right with the juice/working out! Probably not the best idea.

    I think I've forgotten what I even posted as well!

    You asked for some kind of "quick start plan" to get you motivated, and many of us have tried to persuade you that diets don't work. Please take our word for it—we've been there before.

    If you need structure, I play a game called Heath Month: http://www.healthmonth.com It helps build healthy habits through gamification. You choose your own rules, such as "eat bright vegetables x days a week" or "limit alcohol" or "go to the gym" or "cook dinner." You check in every day, and gain (or lose) health points and fruit.

    Your first month is free, and up to 3 public rules is always free. I find Health Month fun + motivating. I even have rules to "make the bed" and "clean my room."
  • TopazCutie
    TopazCutie Posts: 386 Member
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.

    I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.

    He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.

    No... duh?

    I could tell by his over ten thousand posts. But thanks for coming out.
  • CharleneMarie723
    CharleneMarie723 Posts: 98 Member
    If you want a kickstart, take 5 doses of ex-lax. Just kidding. That's the only cleanse ever necessary and only after you haven't pooped for 6 days.

    Just create a deficit and exercise, exercise, exercise. Do things that get your heart rate up, whether that means walking fast (or slow) running a 6 minute mile, cleaning out kitchen cabinets, jumping up and down, who cares.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    edited December 2014
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.

    I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.

    He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.

    I'm not joking at all. It's covered in a chapter I'm working on in my upcoming book.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.

    I'm just going to leave this here for you.. :trollface:

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    you're the devil.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    I read the first and last page. OP, I understand how you feel, I've been there, you feel ready to do something drastic, you maybe hate the look of body part x - I don't know about you, but I have tried crash diets like you're proposing (when I was young, youngggg). I never made it past lunch, and I always felt worse about myself for "failing".

    I didn't fail, though, the diet did. I succeeded when I followed a slow and steady plan.
  • Flookbird
    Flookbird Posts: 81 Member
    Hi. I did the Clean 9 plan back in January. I did lose half a stone doing it, but knowing what I know now, I could have lost that amount just by cutting back. However, it did give me that really good kick start I needed so I'm glad I did it. Back then, I had 5-6 stone to lose. Now, like you, I only need to lose half a stone of that. I definitely wouldn't go near the Clean 9 for that - it's so expensive and not worth the money IMO. I'm planning just to go back to eating at a deficit for a few weeks until it's gone.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to try - I certainly wouldn't knock anyone trying those kind of things for psychological reasons, but having been there, done that, I wouldn't recommend it.
  • kittkat100
    kittkat100 Posts: 19
    edited December 2014
    I don't know why people get all worked up by a crash diet or "kickstart."
    If it works for the person to do something drastic to switch their mentality where is the harm?
    A 3-5 day crash diet will result in real loss. Probably a pound of fat. The rest is water but so what? It still motivates you to find a true diet plan afterwards and work it.

    A one week drastic diet is not going to destroy you. It will not damage you unless you have pre-existing medical conditions. I do not get what it is about this topic that has people up in arms. Just because something doesn't work for you does not mean that is the case for all. Everyone does it differently. OP is not asking for long term diet advice. She is asking about specific "starter" plans for motivation.

    I started my diet in Sept with a one week drastic measure. I needed to change my patterns and habits and wipe the slate clean. I was having too many "will start eating right Monday's" and couldn't break the mentality of needing food often. I chose to do heavy restriction for a week to learn my true hunger cues and learn how much I really needed. It worked for me.
    After that week I was able to make better choices. Natural food had more of an appeal. Honestly, Portion control was the best thing I learned. I was able to take a bite or two of something I was craving and walk away. Prior to this week I did a lot of mindless eating. Spending a week in heavy restriction changed that. I thought about food before eating it.
    I was not in the mindset to "just do it" one day. I needed some insight first. It was not wrong. It was right FOR ME.
    IF OP feels this may help here she should give it a shot. She will learn whether it was right or wrong FOR HER soon enough.

    In Sept I was 140lbs.
    Today I am 118.8 lbs. The weight will stay off now because my mindset has changed.
    For everyone who says..well lets see in a year. Yes, let's. And if my mindset reverts back to old habits..at least I know how to re-motivate myself if I choose too. I am not looking for a "lifestyle change" and I am not on a "journey." I am doing what feels right for me right now, in this moment and nothing more. I cannot predict how I will feel or what will be in my path in the future. I just know that I have learned to understand what amount of food my body needs. If I choose to ignore that later it will be a choice. Not a failure.

    It is one thing to offer suggestions. It is another to try and force your opinion as "the way."
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.

    I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.

    He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.

    I'm not joking at all. It's covered in a chapter I'm working on in my upcoming book.

    Is the foreword by Dr. Oz? If so I'm defo buying it.

    I had Stephen King on the hook for it, but Dr. Oz(ymandias) would be excellent. Maybe some of those screeching barn owls on the View.
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    [I think you're right with the juice/working out! Probably not the best idea.

    I think I've forgotten what I even posted as well!

    FYI... I did not write this. ^^^
    Looks like someone somehow screwed up the quotes lol.

  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I have to be honest, I would never take a path that was proven to waste time and work against progress, just to satisfy some imagined motivational 'need'.

    Since motivation neither burns calories, nor increases your health nor builds strength... it seems like feeding that need, instead of your need for healthy activity, is just wasting time and energy just for the fun of wasting it, knowing full well you'll get no progress and only obstacles from it?

    i dont get it.
  • debra462
    debra462 Posts: 1 Member
    I do cleanses and they work very well I drink juice and eat apple sauce. Oatmeal is ok too if you feel hungry with it. Oatmeal is good to keep blood sugar stable. Ive lost weight many times doing this. I just had a baby and breastfeeding so can't right now.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    debra462 wrote: »
    I do cleanses and they work very well I drink juice and eat apple sauce. Oatmeal is ok too if you feel hungry with it. Oatmeal is good to keep blood sugar stable. Ive lost weight many times doing this. I just had a baby and breastfeeding so can't right now.

    Perhaps you should find a system that doesn't require you to "lose weight so many times."
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.

    I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.

    He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.

    No... duh?

    I could tell by his over ten thousand posts. But thanks for coming out.

    No reason to be all douchey. Was just pointing that out. If you want to play with sarcasm, I can play this game too. Sarcasm is a second language. ;)
    Don't engage the Topaz. Known troll account.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.

    I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.

    He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.

    No... duh?

    I could tell by his over ten thousand posts. But thanks for coming out.

    No reason to be all douchey. Was just pointing that out. If you want to play with sarcasm, I can play this game too. Sarcasm is a second language. ;)
    Don't engage the Topaz. Known troll account.

    ohhhhhhhhhhhh is that why it's in a cage?
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    yoovie wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    TopazCutie wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    I strongly suggest the cranberry and kale cleanse, basically, you drink cranberry juice for a day, eat kale and drink cranberry juice the next day. Then the third day, half your intake is kale and cranberry juice. The rest is protein, within reason.

    I love cleanses, cranberry juice and kale,.... but even I find this one bizarre.

    He's joking... @dbmata is a regular on here.

    No... duh?

    I could tell by his over ten thousand posts. But thanks for coming out.

    No reason to be all douchey. Was just pointing that out. If you want to play with sarcasm, I can play this game too. Sarcasm is a second language. ;)
    Don't engage the Topaz. Known troll account.

    ohhhhhhhhhhhh is that why it's in a cage?
    forsooth, for great truth.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    OP here is what I don't understand. You sound like you are already committed to making this work, sounds like you know that the fad diets and the aggressive approach won't lead to long term lasting results, sounds like you've had success in the past with something similar to an 80/20 approach, sounds like you aren't interested in giving up things like chocolate, etc forever. So why the insistence that you need something "drastic" and "intense". Just start doing what you've done in the past?

    The reason people jumped on this topic is that MANY people, especially new posters at this time of the year, don't have experience with being successful using CICO, moderation and exercise. They feel they have to go big or go home, and more often than not, they go home, frustrated and disappointed in themselves because the method they chose is not sustainable for the long term. It was something uber restrictive, or required too large of a commitment for a beginner to keep up the efforts after the initial excitement wore off.

    You already know it isn't sustainable, so why not just start doing what is sustainable? Set reasonable goals, track your calories, eat foods that provide you macro and micronutrients, throw in some chocolate or other treats for enjoyment, exercise, and get results? That program may not have any fancy name (other than CICO or IIFYM or MFP 101) but it is exactly what you are asking for - something that will get you on track and help you see the results you are looking for.
  • myheartsabattleground
    myheartsabattleground Posts: 2,040 Member
    debra462 wrote: »
    I do cleanses and they work very well I drink juice and eat apple sauce. Oatmeal is ok too if you feel hungry with it. Oatmeal is good to keep blood sugar stable. Ive lost weight many times doing this. I just had a baby and breastfeeding so can't right now.

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  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    edited December 2014
    the system works! Dont skip out on the tried and true version of things in favor of something as faddish as this! You are worth the effort of doing it the hard way!