Food and Parenting

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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,577 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,534 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    Autism is a wide, wide spectrum. Suggesting an autistic kid is not a "healthy" kid is...problematic.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,079 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    They are autistic - so obviously it is.

    Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
  • Flab2fitfi
    Flab2fitfi Posts: 1,349 Member
    I mean to offend no one. I'm just saying I personally would not feed that stuff to my children even with a balanced diet. If they want a
    cookie I will make them from stratch instead of buying the ones that come in a box is all I am saying

    Glad you have the time. Many of us work full time or have other demands on our time.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,079 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    Autism is a wide, wide spectrum. Suggesting an autistic kid is not a "healthy" kid is...problematic.

    I would use another word than "problematic"!
  • ruqayyahsmum
    ruqayyahsmum Posts: 1,500 Member
    edited January 2015
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    my sister was a "healthy child"....... who for over a year ate nothing but 8 weetabix a time 3 times a day

    my mum would make dinner and reheat and serve at every meal to try and get my sister to give in and eat..... my sister won in the end because shes a stubbon bugger. she eats more variety these days but is still a very fussy and picky eater, not for the want of trying on my mothers part

    My daughters on the autistic spectrum. only foods she has issues with are the completly smooth variety, shes much more adventurous than my neurotypical sister

  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,534 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    Autism is a wide, wide spectrum. Suggesting an autistic kid is not a "healthy" kid is...problematic.

    I would use another word than "problematic"!

    I was trying to avoid being....problematic.

    :drinker:
  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 528 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    . My son will eat his gogurt... with a side of raw broccolli. And it is the gogurts that lead to the Stoneyfield squeeze yogurts... and now on to the greek squeeze yogurts. (yay! More protein in greek yogurt!)


    Yeah I tried the Greek yogurt kinds... Nope. Didn't buy any other kind until they were eaten, and I ended up having to throw them away after their expiration date. Even tried making my own smoothies with fruit and Greek yogurt... nope.

    I laugh too at the chickpea chocolate chip cookies or oatmeal raisin cookies... My kids wouldn't touch those. The only 'healthier' substitution they have accepted is regular Cheerios instead of the honey nut kind and hey, I'll take it (shockingly they both eat whole wheat pasta with parmesan cheese just fine, while my son won't touch the boxed mac'n cheese stuff).

    Lol! Chickpea cookies! Ha! My son will eat oatmeal (sometimes). He will eat plain chocolate. He will eat sugar cookies. Put any of those together (ie. chocolate chip cookies, oatmeal cookies) = obvious poison.

    He will only eat the one kind of chicken nugget. Only Annie's bunny mac n cheese (has to be the bunnies!). Kraft a no-go. But that little bugger will eat raw kale. (veggies must be raw. Cooked veggie = poison.) Is this from my parenting? no. He's just particular. I give him grassfed butter on his bagels to boost his omega-3's.

    He will eat pizza and he will eat pasta... but put tomato sauce on pasta = poison.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,079 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    Autism is a wide, wide spectrum. Suggesting an autistic kid is not a "healthy" kid is...problematic.

    I would use another word than "problematic"!

    I was trying to avoid being....problematic.

    :drinker:

    :wink:
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,456 Member
    Being a parent is hard. Being a parent with a full time job is hard. Being a parent who works out is hard. Being a parent who maintains a healthy marriage is hard. Being a parent who maintains a lot of close friendships is hard.

    The worry is constant. Is my oldest adjusting to kindergarten ok? Is he making friends? Is he being nice? I am dressing him nicely? When did I last make him take a shower? Should I make him do more chores? Am I spending enough quality time with him? Am I too hard on him? Am I too soft? Is my youngest developing ok? Why did he wait so long to start walking? Do I hold him too much? Did I wash his hands before he ate dinner? When is his next Dr. appointment? Am I spoiling him? When should I start potty training?

    Oh the worry. The never-ending, constant worry. The thing is... a lot of parents are trying to do their very best. And when someone steps in and says "OMG! Why are you feeding that child a Gogurt!?", it puts us on the defense. My son will eat his gogurt... with a side of raw broccolli. And it is the gogurts that lead to the Stoneyfield squeeze yogurts... and now on to the greek squeeze yogurts. (yay! More protein in greek yogurt!)

    And the cookies from scratch... that just makes me giggle.

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  • aakaakaak
    aakaakaak Posts: 1,240 Member
    Okay piling on for cookies...
    "If they want a cookie I will make them from stratch instead of buying the ones that come in a box is all I am saying."

    Chocolate Chip Cookie
    1 cup butter, softened - Separated, Enzyme added, pasteurized, aged, washed, salted
    1 cup white sugar - Really? What isn't done to process white sugar?
    1 cup packed brown sugar - white sugar with molasses...which is also a process
    2 eggs - U.S. eggs are chemically washed
    2 teaspoons vanilla extract - You make a chemical tincture of vanilla in pure alcohol
    3 cups all-purpose flour - Yep, pure bleached flour. Nope, no chemicals here.
    1 teaspoon baking soda - You mean NaHCO3? (Imagine the 3 is dropped)
    2 teaspoons hot water - Tap water frequently has fluoride and either chlorine or chloramine.
    1/2 teaspoon salt - The sea salt purification or salt mine purification process?
    2 cups semisweet chocolate chips - First you process the cocoa powder. Then you add the processed fats and sugars to process semi-sweet chocolate chips.
    1 cup chopped walnuts - Soaked, husked, dried and sprayed for pests

    So what part of an unprocessed cookie are you going to feed your kid?
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    It happens with kids that have no other apparent issues other than food. I was one. Went months at one point on just apple juice and chicken nuggets. And before you ask, yes, my parents tried everything they could think of to get me to 1) eat more, because I was already a 'failure to thrive' kid and 2) eat something other than chicken nuggets.

    That includes trying to wait me out, which is a problem when you have a kid that just doesn't really care if they eat, you know? I'm sure I've have eaten something else if I'd gotten to the point where I was literally starving to death, but what decent parent is going to let their kid get to that state? Plus, I'd have been taken away by CPS for neglect (as should happen). Bit of a catch-22.

    The good news is that in a kid that doesn't have altered sensory perception or other outstanding issues, it's usually a temporary phase and the kid grows out of it. I did, though it took me years to not be ridiculously picky.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,577 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    They are autistic - so obviously it is.

    Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.

    How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,577 Member
    stealthq wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    It happens with kids that have no other apparent issues other than food. I was one. Went months at one point on just apple juice and chicken nuggets. And before you ask, yes, my parents tried everything they could think of to get me to 1) eat more, because I was already a 'failure to thrive' kid and 2) eat something other than chicken nuggets.

    That includes trying to wait me out, which is a problem when you have a kid that just doesn't really care if they eat, you know? I'm sure I've have eaten something else if I'd gotten to the point where I was literally starving to death, but what decent parent is going to let their kid get to that state? Plus, I'd have been taken away by CPS for neglect (as should happen). Bit of a catch-22.

    The good news is that in a kid that doesn't have altered sensory perception or other outstanding issues, it's usually a temporary phase and the kid grows out of it. I did, though it took me years to not be ridiculously picky.

    I'll have to take your word for it since it's all I have to go on. One must wonder what would have happened if you'd never tasted a chicken nugget.
  • Jennloella
    Jennloella Posts: 2,297 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    They are autistic - so obviously it is.

    Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.

    How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.

    comparing mental/social health with the physical health of a child? oh boy......autism is not diabetes. asperger's is not high blood pressure. come on.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,612 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    They are autistic - so obviously it is.

    Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.

    How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.

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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,577 Member
    Jennloella wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.

    Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?

    i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food

    Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.

    They are autistic - so obviously it is.

    Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.

    How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.

    comparing mental/social health with the physical health of a child? oh boy......autism is not diabetes. asperger's is not high blood pressure. come on.

    Fine, the mind is not part of the body. It's not worth hijacking a thread over. I concede the point.
  • brightsideofpink
    brightsideofpink Posts: 1,018 Member
    I hear this so much and it really boggles my mind. When I hear a parent who is trying to have a more active and heathy life say well I buy those special treats for my kids.

    Any thoughts?

    By your own words, these are special treats. And you would not allow even those?

    Birthday carrot? Where does the candle go?
    Leave kale for Santa?
    Will he/she be allowed to friends parties? Have to bring their own food?
    No popcorn at the movies?

    For what its worth, I think its fine for people to plan ahead with parenting styles and goals, and I think some even stick to it. I don't yet have a teenager, and I can tell you without doubt there's no way my son will be allowed a sleepover with his girlfriend at 16 like my nephews do. I don't need to be a parent to a teenager to say that without hesitation. Its the extremes that get you caught up.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    My parents raised us with a balanced diet. Big treats at our house were fresh peaches in the summer and artichokes at Easter supper. We were raised to like fruits and veggies and healthy food. That being said, we also had McDonald's (don't like it to this day), treats in our lunches, ice cream, etc.
    We understood that those types of foods were treats...occasional TREATS.
    I think when people develop a "good food" vs. "bad food" mentality, it's a recipe for disaster.
    Some people steadfastly believe that some foods are complete rubbish or are horrible for you...real butter for example. Chocolate cake...a martini (Hah-granted-those are not child friendly ;) )
    But if I ever had kids (which I don't...dogs are enough work as it is) I'd hope they could learn to appreciate all foods...have a diverse palate and enjoy different things...healthy foods more often, less healthy foods less often.