Giving up diet soda. So hard!
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realharlot wrote: »
You don't have time to post links to studies? Right. Maybe there are none.realharlot wrote: »While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.
In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.
Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.
It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.
That said, maybe soda does make some people hungrier but not everyone.
Eating sweets might cause some people to want more but, again, not everyone.
Your assertions are very general.
Links to peer reviewed studies, please.
For you too, buddy! Clicky clicky!
Yeah, it seems to me you're trying to one up with your snark replies, but its not working. Your link is opinion only and not facts (as I posted a few posts up, but I guessed you missed it
), therefore it is not all that reliable.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.
I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.
I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.
If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.
It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?
Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.
Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.
I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.
And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.
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Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.
no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.
abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.
Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.
wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.
unethical? not according to my ethics.
Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.
Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.
you're not old enough to be my mother
You don't even know how old I am!
yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.
I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...
WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.
FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*
Sheesh, sorry for trying to lighten the mood a bit. Some people just can't take a joke. *shrugs.* And from your sarcasm, I'm going to suggest that maybe you were born later than 92 since you sure are reacting like a child.
what about that was a joke? i already said i was born prior to 1992, so now you're just insulting me.
I don't really care how old you are. I pointed out an assumption, which was obviously wrong as to how old you are. I was mostly joking, and not really intending to be rude. Your response on the other hand, was sarcastic and rude. So I responded with a little rudeness of my own. So go ahead and be insulted. No skin off my nose
the assumption was rude. not really sure how it was funny.
I don't think it's rude to assume someone's age based off of their screenname. For years my screennames had 88 in them because *shocker here* I was born in 88. I've got tons of friends who put their birth year in their screennames. It's not really a rude assumption. I never saw where you put that you were born prior to 92. All you said was that you weren't born in 92. I thought it was an interesting way to lighten the mood. This further proves that you can't take a little light hearted bantering. Now I don't even care what you say after this because I'm not going to respond anymore. Have a great life, and good luck with your fitness journey.
it was rude because it was insulting my intelligence to insinuate that i really can't subtract 22 from 52 and that i really don't know that a 30 year old can be a mother.0 -
BinaryPulsar wrote: »I don't buy diet soda for my home. I instead reserve it as being something I can drink with my meal when out for dinner. I just like having something different to drink with a restaurant meal. And if diet soda serves that purpose I won't order a glass of wine (I still do, but less frequently). And it saves money. Diet soda is significantly less expensive than wine and usually comes with free refills (though I never need a refill).
but diet soda won't make me drunk.
Neither will wine if you drink it in moderation.
Yeah, and I really was talking about just one glass of wine. But, I have a low tolerance. I will feel that. And if I had one glass frequently (two days in a row for example) I would start to not feel so well. Different people respond differently to alcohol. That's why some people like it so much more than other people. Plus saves more calories for me to eat in the form of food.
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realharlot wrote: »
You don't have time to post links to studies? Right. Maybe there are none.realharlot wrote: »While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.
In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.
Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.
It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.
That said, maybe soda does make some people hungrier but not everyone.
Eating sweets might cause some people to want more but, again, not everyone.
Your assertions are very general.
Links to peer reviewed studies, please.
For you too, buddy! Clicky clicky!
Yeah, it seems to me you're trying to one up with your snark replies, but its not working. Your link is opinion only and not facts (as I posted a few posts up, but I guessed you missed it), therefore it is not all that reliable.
Have you found any peer reviewed studies to support your opinion?.
This is the Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine article that was linked on the right hand side of the VIDEO you clicked play on:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
It covers multiple clinical studies which can be cited with a teensy little bit of leg work. I consider it to be the most relevant seeing as it cites many opposed to few.
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realharlot wrote: »realharlot wrote: »
You don't have time to post links to studies? Right. Maybe there are none.realharlot wrote: »While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.
In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.
Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.
It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.
That said, maybe soda does make some people hungrier but not everyone.
Eating sweets might cause some people to want more but, again, not everyone.
Your assertions are very general.
Links to peer reviewed studies, please.
For you too, buddy! Clicky clicky!
Yeah, it seems to me you're trying to one up with your snark replies, but its not working. Your link is opinion only and not facts (as I posted a few posts up, but I guessed you missed it), therefore it is not all that reliable.
Have you found any peer reviewed studies to support your opinion?.
This is the Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine article that was linked on the right hand side of the VIDEO you clicked play on:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
It covers multiple clinical studies which can be cited with a teensy little bit of leg work. I consider it to be the most relevant seeing as it cites many opposed to few.
Thank you. Back later to read because we are out the door in a few.0 -
Thank you. Back later to read because we are out the door in a few.
THANK YOU.
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When participants were not aware of what they consumed, which is referred to as blind the group given the aspartame consumed fewer calories, but when they were told they were given the artificial sweetner, they ate more.......that is not blind or double blind. What we can conclude is that obese people also drink diet pop.realharlot wrote: »realharlot wrote: »
You don't have time to post links to studies? Right. Maybe there are none.realharlot wrote: »While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.
In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.
Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.
It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.
That said, maybe soda does make some people hungrier but not everyone.
Eating sweets might cause some people to want more but, again, not everyone.
Your assertions are very general.
Links to peer reviewed studies, please.
For you too, buddy! Clicky clicky!
Yeah, it seems to me you're trying to one up with your snark replies, but its not working. Your link is opinion only and not facts (as I posted a few posts up, but I guessed you missed it), therefore it is not all that reliable.
Have you found any peer reviewed studies to support your opinion?.
This is the Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine article that was linked on the right hand side of the VIDEO you clicked play on:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm_83_2_101.pdf
It covers multiple clinical studies which can be cited with a teensy little bit of leg work. I consider it to be the most relevant seeing as it cites many opposed to few.
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aperson1961 wrote: »llUndecidedll wrote: »Since cutting calories, I've developed a strong like for various flavors of unsweetened tea, so I say try different flavored teas. You really can't go wrong. You can make the tea as strong or as weak as you like.
I still love diet soda, though, and I'm trying to cut back on it as well. Mainly because my skin is severely dehydrated and it's better for me to drink flavored water than diet pop. I also felt somewhat better after not having any pop for about a week, so I decided to keep with the new change. I don't think there's anything wrong with soda at all. I just need more hydration and as someone who doesn't drink much, I just try to drink water when I can because my skin is in horrible condition.
So yeah, try tea.
A good thought about hydration. I recommend downloading a water logging application and set a target for drinking enough plain water. I did that in August after my work's health coach recommended it. I did feel better from drinking more water. I use the waterlogger app (on my iPhone) to make sure that I drink 100 oz/day; it is very simple to use ... but you could also use myfitnesspal or fitbit or other apps to keep track. If you make sure you are drinking enough plain water, then you might drink less other drinks such as soda. If you are losing weight, then there is supposed to be more likelihood of developing gallstones and kidney stones. If you google for info on preventing stones, one of the suggestions is to drink plenty of water. I don't believe other drinks replace the need to hydrate with just plain water. So for those of you looking to reduce or quit drinking diet drinks, maybe tracking/meeting water goals might be helpful. And I've found that the fullness from drinking water has just helped my weight loss in general. There are other benefits. Here is a link to a short list: http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/6-reasons-to-drink-water?page=3
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mamapeach910 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.
I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.
I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.
If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.
It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?
Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.
Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.
I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.
And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.
My perfect post is now hidden
Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.
no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.
abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.
Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.
wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.
unethical? not according to my ethics.
Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.
Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.
you're not old enough to be my mother
You don't even know how old I am!
yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.
I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...
WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.
FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*
Sheesh, sorry for trying to lighten the mood a bit. Some people just can't take a joke. *shrugs.* And from your sarcasm, I'm going to suggest that maybe you were born later than 92 since you sure are reacting like a child.
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I go through random binges of drinking diet soda. Months and months of just water with lemon and ice tea.. and then I have like two weeks of soda drinking.
I get it's zero calories, zero in all macros...but it's artificial terribleness. Also, what causes me to snap out of those binges is I start looking flabby. And also.. diet soda and cellulite are bffs.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/305514-diet-pop-and-cellulite/
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My hubby and I quit soda a long time ago and we replaced it with Crystal Light Ice Tea, it only has 5 calories a glass and after a while your craving for soda will go away 0
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Wow what a response this has drummed up! I just want to give you some support for giving up diet sodas. Plenty of studies show serious side effects of those chemicals. I gave up diet soda about 15 years ago (along with cigarettes) and I do not miss it. I drink water. Here's a tip: fill a beautiful glass pitcher with filtered water and add slices of orange and lemon, you can also add mint, any fruit you enjoy. Use organic fruit. Drink it throughout the day. BRAVO! You will save plenty of money and can use it instead on buying better quality foods. Take it day by day and reward yourself when you hit 30 days in a row free! Good luck.0
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Wanted to jump in real quick.. I chose to give up soda and aspartame. I cut back one soda a day and sustained that for 2 weeks. Third week cut back two sodas, etc.
I can now taste sodium if I have a sip of certain sodas. I dont like it. HAHAHA
Aspartame was more of a challenge for me. Those drink packets poured into bottled water were a lifesaver at work when I couldnt get away. Same process as with the soda.
I love filtered water, hot/iced herbal teas, soy milk, etc.
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