Giving up diet soda. So hard!

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  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    Aviva92 wrote: »
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
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    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.
  • muggins14
    muggins14 Posts: 2 Member
    I gave up the diet soda, decided fizzy flavoured spring water was the next best option (lemon & lime flavoured fizzy water). My daughter and I both love it.
  • lthames0810
    lthames0810 Posts: 722 Member
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    I remember the thing that most surprised me as being naturally sweet once I retrained my taste buds--almonds. Who knew?


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    Not on topic, sorry, but I discovered the same thing about almonds when I lost my sense of smell. I don't detect flavors anymore, but only the basic tastes of sweet, salt, sour, bitter. Strawberries are sour, onions are sweet...weird.

  • rendash49221
    rendash49221 Posts: 39 Member
    OP, I agree with the ideas of water with fresh fruit added for flavor and tea. I noticed that you mentioned you drink decaffeinated diet soda; so I would definitely make sure your tea is decaf as well. That way you aren't dealing with the caffeine jitters as well. If you need to sweeten your tea, and want to stay with something natural; I suggest using honey. Either raw or pasturized (although I personally think that raw is better for us). Green tea is also pareferred by a lot of people for the antioxidents.

    You said that the main reason for giving up diet soda was that you didn't want to consume all the chemicals (I'm assuming here you mean artificial sweeteners, color and flavorings). If so, I would stay away from Mio, Disani water enhancer and Crystal Light as these also have artifical ingredients.
  • NikonPal
    NikonPal Posts: 1,346 Member
    Whatever works for you is probably the best. I drink a modest amount of diet coke daily (1-2 8oz. bottles). It hasn't impacted my weight-loss, because it isn't a trigger for me...there are some foods I don't go near. Good luck.

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  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member
    edited January 2015
    phoebe1975 wrote: »
    I was addicted to diet coke, coke, dr. pepper, coffee, etc....There were days where I would drink 12 diet cokes a day (I know, it is so embarrassing to say). No one ever thought I would quit, but I did using caffeine pills. I started with one in the morning and one in the evening and gradually cut down by cutting them into 1/4ths. If you are not addicted to caffeine, then I cannot explain to you how bad the headaches are when you try to quit! It is awful, AWFUL- and this was the only way I could quit and still function!!

    You will eventually learn to love water- I love it now!!
    And with pizza you always drink a very tall, very cold beer :wink:

    Standing ovation for you!! Good for you. :D
    I had a soda addiction for about 30 years and haven't had a soda for over a year. I found that I just had to quit drinking it all together or I would eventually slip back to larger quantities. I never could get a taste for diet soda other than the minute maid lite lemonade that they had at the movie theater. Anyway, after gaining so much weight, I was pre-diabetic and was frequently swollen in individual joints or my whole body. Drinking it was just making me ill. Even the minute maid diet lemonade made me ill. It is very difficult, but definitely worth quitting. I will never be able to drink soda again without over-using it, so I won't touch it.

    I pretty much only drink water. I make sure that I drink 100 oz a day (use water logger to track it); it really helps with dieting and I feel much better when I drink a lot of water. I have never tasted coffee in my life so thankfully don't have that addiction. I will periodically drink a warm herbal tea. Iced tea makes me sick to my stomach. My husband really likes the flavored/unflavored carbonated waters, but he is a big tea drinker too. I am addicted to chewing ice so I have a KitchenAid countertop ice maker that makes soft ice. Another alternative to plain tap water is to add fruit into a pitcher to add flavor (cucumber with lemon is delicious).

    I have given up soda plus am eating much more enjoyable foods. I don't think of my current diet as having given up anything I love ... and I'm not eating any of the same foods any more. I really truly like what I'm eating now much much better. It is so much more flavorful and tasty plus more nutritious and lower calorie. I've lost 50 pounds since Sept 16, 2014 (and am still in the obesity range). I love eating what I'm eating now more than ever. Using myfitnesspal has really helped me evaluate the foods that I'm eating and make the best choices for my lifestyle

    And another standing ovation for you as well. :)

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Do people log diet pop? I don't. I also don't log coffee or tea, but don't assume I haven't had any today.

    If I logged regularly, which I don't, and if I drank diet coke, which I don't, I would log it. In fact, that would be a definite for me to log because then I would be able to see the difference when I stopped drinking it.

    Lena, just how do you believe diet soda makes a person gain weight when there are no calorie in it?

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    LOL! I love Chuck Norris.

    One can only hope that there is diet soda in that Pepsi cup in front of Chuck Norris - that would make the gif perfect. Well, ideally it would be a can of Diet Coke, because Pepsi, blech!

    That's one of the reasons why I posted it. :P

    I figured it was intentional, just wanted to make sure everyone else saw it - sometimes Chuck Norris is so magnetic people fail to see anything else!

    He's darned hot!
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    I switched to wine, it works...... and whiskey,, and vodka....
  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member
    edited January 2015
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    No scientific evidence from me either. I just saw with my own eyes a young mum give up diet soda and lose a massive amount of weight by doing just that one thing. Granted that once she had lost a huge amount of weight, it inspired her to continue and change her eating to nutritious food and to start exercising. Whilst drinking diet soda she did not have the energy or the inclination to improve her health.

    She no longer drinks it or wants to drink it.

    Nope, she definitely did not lose weight by giving up just diet soda because there are no calories in diet soda. She started eating less and/or created a deficit through exercise, because that's how weight is lost. However, it's wonderful that letting go of soda helped her get back her motivation.

    Perhaps a wrong choice of words from me so let's go inside my head for half a second. Diet soda, soda, diet coke, coke, pepsi, diet pepsi, etc etc etc are all the same to me "total crap with zero nutritional value." None, whatsoever.

    So my sentence should have read "I just saw with my own eyes a young mum give up this "total crap with zero nutritional value" and lose a huge amount of weight by doing just doing that one thing.

    And no she didn't lose it by through exercise as it was not until she had lost a massive amount of weight that she found her motivation and was able to exercise. So I repeat, she lost the weight by giving up whatever "crappy" drink she was drinking at the time. Granted, she possibly moved more and a pattern of change was set in motion.

    However, her nutritional knowledge was poor and she exercised and ate less of poor quality food and continued to lose weight. She looked amazing for about a year but because her basic eating pattern had only lessened but hadn't changed, evidently some of the weight returned. She is still not drinking "that total crap with zero nutritional value" and is nowhere near the weight she was before.

    Now do you see how it is easier to say "diet soda." I think from memory her poison was Coke.

    As for those involved in the tooth decay "discussion." I am not even going to go there as it is absolute kindergarten stuff regarding basic and common dental knowledge.
  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member
    I switched to wine, it works...... and whiskey,, and vodka....

    Tragically, it works for me as well. Cheers!! Everyone has their poison.
  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member
    SSL Runner, sorry I have to break the news to you but Chuck Norris is 75 years of age. :p
  • MindySaysWhaaat
    MindySaysWhaaat Posts: 401 Member
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.

    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    No scientific evidence from me either. I just saw with my own eyes a young mum give up diet soda and lose a massive amount of weight by doing just that one thing. Granted that once she had lost a huge amount of weight, it inspired her to continue and change her eating to nutritious food and to start exercising. Whilst drinking diet soda she did not have the energy or the inclination to improve her health.

    She no longer drinks it or wants to drink it.

    Nope, she definitely did not lose weight by giving up just diet soda because there are no calories in diet soda. She started eating less and/or created a deficit through exercise, because that's how weight is lost. However, it's wonderful that letting go of soda helped her get back her motivation.

    Perhaps a wrong choice of words from me so let's go inside my head for half a second. Diet soda, soda, diet coke, coke, pepsi, diet pepsi, etc etc etc are all the same to me "total crap with zero nutritional value." None, whatsoever.

    So my sentence should have read "I just saw with my own eyes a young mum give up this "total crap with zero nutritional value" and lose a huge amount of weight by doing just doing that one thing.

    And no she didn't lose it by through exercise as it was not until she had lost a massive amount of weight that she found her motivation and was able to exercise. So I repeat, she lost the weight by giving up whatever "crappy" drink she was drinking at the time. Granted, she possibly moved more and a pattern of change was set in motion.

    However, her nutritional knowledge was poor and she exercised and ate less of poor quality food and continued to lose weight. She looked amazing for about a year but because her basic eating pattern had only lessened but hadn't changed, evidently some of the weight returned. She is still not drinking "that total crap with zero nutritional value" and is nowhere near the weight she was before.

    Now do you see how it is easier to say "diet soda." I think from memory her poison was Coke.

    As for those involved in the tooth decay "discussion." I am not even going to go there as it is absolute kindergarten stuff regarding basic and common dental knowledge.

    So to restate, accurately this time, she lost weight by cutting calories.

    Shocking!
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    edited January 2015
    memelendy wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.

    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...

    WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.

    FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*
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  • CallMeRuPaul
    CallMeRuPaul Posts: 151 Member
    drink regular pop. it's better than diet pop anyway.
  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member
    Here is a random googled quote, no time to edit thing about diet soda.

    Diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!!

    How does that happen?
    •Artificial sweeteners are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar activating our genetically programmed preference for sweet taste more than any other substance.
    •They trick your metabolism into thinking sugar is on its way. This causes your body to pump out insulin, the fat storage hormone, which lays down more belly fat.
    •It also confuses and slows your metabolism down, so you burn less calories every day.
    •It makes you hungrier and crave even more sugar and starchy carbs like bread and pasta.
    •In animal studies, the rats that consumed artificial sweeteners ate more, their metabolism slowed, and they put on 14 percent more body fat in just two weeks – EVEN eating less calories.
    •In population studies there was a 200 percent increased risk of obesity in diet soda drinkers.

    Aviva, settle petal. :) Memelendy meant no harm. Take a deep breath and don't let all this nastiness get to you. xx (Bet I'm old enough to be your mother or older sister maybe?)
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Here is a random googled quote, no time to edit thing about diet soda.

    Diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!!

    How does that happen?
    •Artificial sweeteners are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar activating our genetically programmed preference for sweet taste more than any other substance.
    •They trick your metabolism into thinking sugar is on its way. This causes your body to pump out insulin, the fat storage hormone, which lays down more belly fat.
    •It also confuses and slows your metabolism down, so you burn less calories every day.
    •It makes you hungrier and crave even more sugar and starchy carbs like bread and pasta.
    •In animal studies, the rats that consumed artificial sweeteners ate more, their metabolism slowed, and they put on 14 percent more body fat in just two weeks – EVEN eating less calories.
    •In population studies there was a 200 percent increased risk of obesity in diet soda drinkers.

    Aviva, settle petal. :) Memelendy meant no harm. Take a deep breath and don't let all this nastiness get to you. xx (Bet I'm old enough to be your mother or older sister maybe?)

    you could be my mother if you started pretty young.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Here is a random googled quote, no time to edit thing about diet soda.

    Diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!!

    How does that happen?
    •Artificial sweeteners are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar activating our genetically programmed preference for sweet taste more than any other substance.
    •They trick your metabolism into thinking sugar is on its way. This causes your body to pump out insulin, the fat storage hormone, which lays down more belly fat.
    •It also confuses and slows your metabolism down, so you burn less calories every day.
    •It makes you hungrier and crave even more sugar and starchy carbs like bread and pasta.
    •In animal studies, the rats that consumed artificial sweeteners ate more, their metabolism slowed, and they put on 14 percent more body fat in just two weeks – EVEN eating less calories.
    •In population studies there was a 200 percent increased risk of obesity in diet soda drinkers.

    Aviva, settle petal. :) Memelendy meant no harm. Take a deep breath and don't let all this nastiness get to you. xx (Bet I'm old enough to be your mother or older sister maybe?)

    Wow cut and pasted random googled quotes without even a link to a website. You are brave...

  • ketorach
    ketorach Posts: 430 Member
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    No scientific evidence from me either. I just saw with my own eyes a young mum give up diet soda and lose a massive amount of weight by doing just that one thing. Granted that once she had lost a huge amount of weight, it inspired her to continue and change her eating to nutritious food and to start exercising. Whilst drinking diet soda she did not have the energy or the inclination to improve her health.

    She no longer drinks it or wants to drink it.

    Nope, she definitely did not lose weight by giving up just diet soda because there are no calories in diet soda. She started eating less and/or created a deficit through exercise, because that's how weight is lost. However, it's wonderful that letting go of soda helped her get back her motivation.

    Perhaps a wrong choice of words from me so let's go inside my head for half a second. Diet soda, soda, diet coke, coke, pepsi, diet pepsi, etc etc etc are all the same to me "total crap with zero nutritional value." None, whatsoever.

    So my sentence should have read "I just saw with my own eyes a young mum give up this "total crap with zero nutritional value" and lose a huge amount of weight by doing just doing that one thing.

    And no she didn't lose it by through exercise as it was not until she had lost a massive amount of weight that she found her motivation and was able to exercise. So I repeat, she lost the weight by giving up whatever "crappy" drink she was drinking at the time. Granted, she possibly moved more and a pattern of change was set in motion.

    However, her nutritional knowledge was poor and she exercised and ate less of poor quality food and continued to lose weight. She looked amazing for about a year but because her basic eating pattern had only lessened but hadn't changed, evidently some of the weight returned. She is still not drinking "that total crap with zero nutritional value" and is nowhere near the weight she was before.

    Now do you see how it is easier to say "diet soda." I think from memory her poison was Coke.

    As for those involved in the tooth decay "discussion." I am not even going to go there as it is absolute kindergarten stuff regarding basic and common dental knowledge.
    WT-actual-F? diet Coke != Coke. Coke has 140 calories in 12oz compared with 0 in diet Coke.

    This is literally the stupidest argument/stance I've ever seen.
  • Sheets76
    Sheets76 Posts: 76 Member
    Lynette try substituting it with sparkling water ... especially with italian food... it's awesome and once you get used to it... you'll never want the artificial taste of 'diet' soda again...I hate the taste of "diet" drinks
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Here is a random googled quote, no time to edit thing about diet soda.

    Diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!!

    How does that happen?
    •Artificial sweeteners are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar activating our genetically programmed preference for sweet taste more than any other substance.
    •They trick your metabolism into thinking sugar is on its way. This causes your body to pump out insulin, the fat storage hormone, which lays down more belly fat.
    •It also confuses and slows your metabolism down, so you burn less calories every day.
    •It makes you hungrier and crave even more sugar and starchy carbs like bread and pasta.
    •In animal studies, the rats that consumed artificial sweeteners ate more, their metabolism slowed, and they put on 14 percent more body fat in just two weeks – EVEN eating less calories.
    •In population studies there was a 200 percent increased risk of obesity in diet soda drinkers.

    Aviva, settle petal. :) Memelendy meant no harm. Take a deep breath and don't let all this nastiness get to you. xx (Bet I'm old enough to be your mother or older sister maybe?)

    That is all nonsense, based off that Yale study, which has already been debunked. The correlative link between the risk of obesity and diet soda drinking is known, but the causative factor has yet to be proven.

    NEXT....

  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    So to restate, accurately this time, she lost weight by cutting calories.
    Shocking!

    I am not disputing CICO, never have, and to restate, accurately this time, with the text she just sent me to validate any of my claims, "back in those days, I drank anything that fizzed."

    And yes, she dropped the weight by not drinking "anything that fizzed."

    Shocking no - life changing YES!!
  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    edited January 2015
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Here is a random googled quote, no time to edit thing about diet soda.

    Diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!!

    How does that happen?
    •Artificial sweeteners are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar activating our genetically programmed preference for sweet taste more than any other substance.
    •They trick your metabolism into thinking sugar is on its way. This causes your body to pump out insulin, the fat storage hormone, which lays down more belly fat.
    •It also confuses and slows your metabolism down, so you burn less calories every day.
    •It makes you hungrier and crave even more sugar and starchy carbs like bread and pasta.
    •In animal studies, the rats that consumed artificial sweeteners ate more, their metabolism slowed, and they put on 14 percent more body fat in just two weeks – EVEN eating less calories.
    •In population studies there was a 200 percent increased risk of obesity in diet soda drinkers.

    Aviva, settle petal. :) Memelendy meant no harm. Take a deep breath and don't let all this nastiness get to you. xx (Bet I'm old enough to be your mother or older sister maybe?)

    That is all nonsense, based off that Yale study, which has already been debunked. The correlative link between the risk of obesity and diet soda drinking is known, but the causative factor has yet to be proven.

    NEXT....
    Nothing has been debunked. The same conclusions have been reached in many studies over the past few years.

  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    scoandmur wrote: »
    Thank you LeenaGee and the rest who gave suggestions. Making some ice tea now

    I think that's a great idea, but my question is, aren't you going to use sweetener in it [iced tea]?

    Why would she? I drink a lot of homebrewed and chilled iced tea, and I never do. It doesn't need it.

    I drink lots of water too (we have bottles available at work, along with coffee, tea, and diet soda), but often with dinner or in the evening I like a switch and iced tea is a lovely alternative.

    Places where they assume that iced tea is sweetened unless you order "unsweet" are weird, IMO, although I strongly suspect this is mostly a regional thing, which is the only reason I answered.

    in the south there is no such thing as unsweetened tea... lol I can't imagine drinking tea that is unsweetened.. blech...

    There is unsweetened tea in the south (NC). It is what I get all the time. But I do believe I am in the minority.

  • FitOldMomma
    FitOldMomma Posts: 790 Member
    I used to drink 2 liters a day of diet cola. I've cut back to maybe having one 1L bottle every other week. I finally learned to drink plain water. I still don't love it, but I drink it.
    I think it was just the carbonation I really liked.
  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member
    Kruggeri, I live life on the edge. lol
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Here is a random googled quote, no time to edit thing about diet soda.

    Diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!!

    How does that happen?
    •Artificial sweeteners are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar activating our genetically programmed preference for sweet taste more than any other substance.
    •They trick your metabolism into thinking sugar is on its way. This causes your body to pump out insulin, the fat storage hormone, which lays down more belly fat.
    •It also confuses and slows your metabolism down, so you burn less calories every day.
    •It makes you hungrier and crave even more sugar and starchy carbs like bread and pasta.
    •In animal studies, the rats that consumed artificial sweeteners ate more, their metabolism slowed, and they put on 14 percent more body fat in just two weeks – EVEN eating less calories.
    •In population studies there was a 200 percent increased risk of obesity in diet soda drinkers.

    Aviva, settle petal. :) Memelendy meant no harm. Take a deep breath and don't let all this nastiness get to you. xx (Bet I'm old enough to be your mother or older sister maybe?)

    That is all nonsense, based off that Yale study, which has already been debunked. The correlative link between the risk of obesity and diet soda drinking is known, but the causative factor has yet to be proven.

    NEXT....
    Nothing has been debunked. The same conclusions have been reached in many studies over the past few years.

    You have not posted one thing with a conclusion. A hypothesis is not a conclusion. Can you even science? This is elementary school stuff about the scientific process.

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  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    You seem to have not read the actual studies.The hypothesis is only about the mechanism...the "how". The "what" is already known. The fact that artificial sweeteners cause cravings is well established.

    They are now trying to determine exactly why that is. What HAS been proven is that sugar has a much more dramatic effect on activating certain parts of the brain than artificial sweeteners. They just can't conclusively determine why yet. But frankly, the why is irrelevant to me. I know artificial sweeteners can intensify sugar cravings. That's all I need to know.
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