If You Ate Whatever you wanted, no excersize, what do you think would be your stable bmi/ weight?
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I just visited the Halls.md site. Very interesting calculations and data on BMI and how skewed it is (e.g., men are expected to be the same weight as women, no adjustments for aging). I especially noted the charts that show the overweight line being at higher levels for people over 50. I also noticed that even though I'm "high normal" BMI, 23.6, I am still at 13% percentile, which means the majority of women my age are heavier than I am. I did the ideal body weight calculation, which is 116, 1 lb. away from my goal weight. So, I'm not far off, despite all the 20 year olds my height who are posting that their ideal is around 105.0
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I don't count calories anymore, but when I periodically check myself, I find I maintain on about 2800 calories per day. I do eat whatever I want in terms that eating primarily quality whole foods makes me feel better, and I fill in with treats and splurges here and there.
However, I would never give up exercising unless physically forced. When I didn't exercise, I weighed 235. Now I weigh 170-175 (varies 5 pounds daily for real) and although my BMI says I'm overweight, my bodyfat % is in the optimal range for a woman of my age. I'm right where I want to be body comp-wise. I'm a competitive powerlifter/Crossfitter though so I have a lot of muscle mass. For me, exercise is the key to the body composition I desire. The number on the scale means absolutely nothing to me except when it comes to weighing in for a meet.0 -
I just visited the Halls.md site. Very interesting calculations and data on BMI and how skewed it is (e.g., men are expected to be the same weight as women, no adjustments for aging). I especially noted the charts that show the overweight line being at higher levels for people over 50. I also noticed that even though I'm "high normal" BMI, 23.6, I am still at 13% percentile, which means the majority of women my age are heavier than I am. I did the ideal body weight calculation, which is 116, 1 lb. away from my goal weight. So, I'm not far off, despite all the 20 year olds my height who are posting that their ideal is around 105.
Ideal BMI/weight shifts upward as we age, although I'm not sure where the "starting point" for that is, age-wise (I think you're still under it?). It's because extra fat stores are a boon to surviving bouts of pneumonia, colon cancer, and other wasting-type longer-term diseases that strike elderly populations more often than younger people. Also worth noting, having a little bit of fat on your face as you move into your 30s, 40s and beyond makes you look younger.
That said, I'm pretty close to your height, and while body type does matter, 105 is definitely not an attractive weight on me!0 -
If I ate whatever I wanted without exercise, I'd be the same guy I was 1 year ago... 270+ pounds and BMI of 40. Even in maintenance, I'll be watching/tracking my food/exercise for a long time...0
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I have been a yoyo dieter, unfortunately. When I am in free-fall state and eat/exercise how I want, my weight goes directly to around 280 pounds and stays there. There is no way this is healthy or fun or correct for my body, even though my body "likes" that weight. I am in constant pain, have GERD, blood pressure rises, can't sleep, feel miserable and look horrid. You would think all of that would motivate me, but I love food and my "freedom" -- which spirals down into no freedom. And then the cycle starts again...0
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cheshirecatastrophe wrote: »I just visited the Halls.md site. Very interesting calculations and data on BMI and how skewed it is (e.g., men are expected to be the same weight as women, no adjustments for aging). I especially noted the charts that show the overweight line being at higher levels for people over 50. I also noticed that even though I'm "high normal" BMI, 23.6, I am still at 13% percentile, which means the majority of women my age are heavier than I am. I did the ideal body weight calculation, which is 116, 1 lb. away from my goal weight. So, I'm not far off, despite all the 20 year olds my height who are posting that their ideal is around 105.
Ideal BMI/weight shifts upward as we age, although I'm not sure where the "starting point" for that is, age-wise (I think you're still under it?). It's because extra fat stores are a boon to surviving bouts of pneumonia, colon cancer, and other wasting-type longer-term diseases that strike elderly populations more often than younger people. Also worth noting, having a little bit of fat on your face as you move into your 30s, 40s and beyond makes you look younger.
That said, I'm pretty close to your height, and while body type does matter, 105 is definitely not an attractive weight on me!
I'm 56, so I'm definitely past the "starting point", which is over 50. You are right about carrying a little extra fat making you look younger. The extra fat in my face and figure do make me look 10 years younger; I have a younger sister who is taller than I am and 10 lbs. lighter, and she does look older than I do.0 -
I would be over 200 lbs, now I am 155. I eat something if it looks good, don't have to be hungry so I have to count calories.0
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cheshirecatastrophe wrote: »I just visited the Halls.md site. Very interesting calculations and data on BMI and how skewed it is (e.g., men are expected to be the same weight as women, no adjustments for aging). I especially noted the charts that show the overweight line being at higher levels for people over 50. I also noticed that even though I'm "high normal" BMI, 23.6, I am still at 13% percentile, which means the majority of women my age are heavier than I am. I did the ideal body weight calculation, which is 116, 1 lb. away from my goal weight. So, I'm not far off, despite all the 20 year olds my height who are posting that their ideal is around 105.
Ideal BMI/weight shifts upward as we age, although I'm not sure where the "starting point" for that is, age-wise (I think you're still under it?). It's because extra fat stores are a boon to surviving bouts of pneumonia, colon cancer, and other wasting-type longer-term diseases that strike elderly populations more often than younger people. Also worth noting, having a little bit of fat on your face as you move into your 30s, 40s and beyond makes you look younger.
That said, I'm pretty close to your height, and while body type does matter, 105 is definitely not an attractive weight on me!
I'm 56, so I'm definitely past the "starting point", which is over 50. You are right about carrying a little extra fat making you look younger. The extra fat in my face and figure do make me look 10 years younger; I have a younger sister who is taller than I am and 10 lbs. lighter, and she does look older than I do.
I found this exactly, I look 20 years younger at an overweight bmi!:-)
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The stress off my joints alone but also greater mobility, strength and agility in every day activities would prompt me to maintain a lower weight and stronger body. I couldn't do without exercise. It is my therapy (psych). Too many benefits to list.0
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brenn24179 wrote: »I would be over 200 lbs, now I am 155. I eat something if it looks good, don't have to be hungry so I have to count calories.
Looks good, smells good, must be good! yes!
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The stress off my joints alone but also greater mobility, strength and agility in every day activities would prompt me to maintain a lower weight and stronger body. I couldn't do without exercise. It is my therapy (psych). Too many benefits to list.
I like to get my coat and hat and walk either in the medieval town I live in or just on the outskirts of it on the lanes along the river. I stroll though, watching all the birds and trees that inhabit the river side, I don't power walk, I'd miss too much! I find this alone keeps my joints supple and my BP down. This is my therapy and antidepressants too. I think fresh air and sun alone can do wonders. So many benefits.
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If I'd eat how much I'd feel like and manage, I would never get to a stable weight, just observe a continous gain. I could be on TV if I wanted.
What I really want, is to keep my weight stable at BMI 22 - 22.5, and therefore, I eat accordingly.0 -
I think its cute, I admit I would rather see this than a 16 year old girl with bones sticking out all ovèr from starving, who baked the yum cake?0
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If science proved that a bmi in the overweight and above range was not unhealthy in any way, would you keep dieting?
That being said, even if a high bmi wasn't unhealthy, it would still keep me from getting laid... so yeah, I would still watch my weight.0 -
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ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want to go back to being sixteen, unless I get to keep everything I've learned since then. And even so, those whacky, whacky hormones!
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ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want to go back to being sixteen, unless I get to keep everything I've learned since then. And even so, those whacky, whacky hormones!
Oh geez. I taught high school for four years-- I wouldn't trade places with those kids for anything.0 -
If science proved that a bmi in the overweight and above range was not unhealthy in any way, would you keep dieting?
That being said, even if a high bmi wasn't unhealthy, it would still keep me from getting laid... so yeah, I would still watch my weight.
LOL! You don't know the people I know!0 -
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cheshirecatastrophe wrote: »I just visited the Halls.md site. Very interesting calculations and data on BMI and how skewed it is (e.g., men are expected to be the same weight as women, no adjustments for aging). I especially noted the charts that show the overweight line being at higher levels for people over 50. I also noticed that even though I'm "high normal" BMI, 23.6, I am still at 13% percentile, which means the majority of women my age are heavier than I am. I did the ideal body weight calculation, which is 116, 1 lb. away from my goal weight. So, I'm not far off, despite all the 20 year olds my height who are posting that their ideal is around 105.
Ideal BMI/weight shifts upward as we age, although I'm not sure where the "starting point" for that is, age-wise (I think you're still under it?). It's because extra fat stores are a boon to surviving bouts of pneumonia, colon cancer, and other wasting-type longer-term diseases that strike elderly populations more often than younger people. Also worth noting, having a little bit of fat on your face as you move into your 30s, 40s and beyond makes you look younger.
That said, I'm pretty close to your height, and while body type does matter, 105 is definitely not an attractive weight on me!
I'm 56, so I'm definitely past the "starting point", which is over 50. You are right about carrying a little extra fat making you look younger. The extra fat in my face and figure do make me look 10 years younger; I have a younger sister who is taller than I am and 10 lbs. lighter, and she does look older than I do.
I found this exactly, I look 20 years younger at an overweight bmi!:-)
Not me. I look significantly younger when not obese. The first time I realized how much I'd regained was when I caught myself in the mirror out of the corner of my eye and wondered who that middle aged woman was (I am, but was used to everyone telling me they were shocked to learn my age, all of a sudden I looked it and more). Since I lost our incredibly tactless cleaning woman at my job keeps telling me how much better and, especially, younger I look (she's also asked me if I had WLS).0 -
Well, I'm just on the edge between over weight and normal bmi. I restricted severly for about 5 years and then intentionally regained the weight to preserve bone density. While I was way below a normal bmi I had an unhealthy pallour, sort of grey like and no butt at all. So this is a vast improvement! Its nice to get compliments sometimes isn't it?0
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I wouldn't think how you look at way below a normal BMI would necessarily mean that you would look that way at a normal BMI. (In fact, unless you just naturally tended to be slight and thinner than most, I would assume being underweight would be less than ideal for most.)0
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I ate whatever I wanted and did very little exercise for the first 15 years of my life! xD And I did it quite recently, and maintained a stable weight between 123lb and 140lb. It is, to be, a really bad BMI (at over 26), but I was healthy. I did suffer from terrible asthma, and still do, though.0
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It wlemurcat12 wrote: »I wouldn't think how you look at way below a normal BMI would necessarily mean that you would look that way at a normal BMI. (In fact, unless you just naturally tended to be slight and thinner than most, I would assume being underweight would be less than ideal for most.)
It was sure less than ideal for me in a lot of ways. When I did eat, it wouldnt digest properly!
A real pain in the you know what. I got sooo tired of all that. Some people enjoy it until death.0 -
kristyxaloistrancy wrote: »I ate whatever I wanted and did very little exercise for the first 15 years of my life! xD And I did it quite recently, and maintained a stable weight between 123lb and 140lb. It is, to be, a really bad BMI (at over 26), but I was healthy. I did suffer from terrible asthma, and still do, though.
I was like that the first 55 years of my life! No diets, no scales and just naturally ate and stayed within the healthy bmi range without any understanding of what calories or bmi's even were.
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Heh. Mine would easily be 50+ considering what I would prefer to eat...
Just kidding; good question though. I'd have to imagine that I would eventually be back to my heaviest weight, which was around 185 pounds (and easily 35ish BMI). That was when I basically ate what I wanted and didn't do any of the exercise I do now.0 -
cheshirecatastrophe wrote: »I just visited the Halls.md site. Very interesting calculations and data on BMI and how skewed it is (e.g., men are expected to be the same weight as women, no adjustments for aging). I especially noted the charts that show the overweight line being at higher levels for people over 50. I also noticed that even though I'm "high normal" BMI, 23.6, I am still at 13% percentile, which means the majority of women my age are heavier than I am. I did the ideal body weight calculation, which is 116, 1 lb. away from my goal weight. So, I'm not far off, despite all the 20 year olds my height who are posting that their ideal is around 105.
Ideal BMI/weight shifts upward as we age, although I'm not sure where the "starting point" for that is, age-wise (I think you're still under it?). It's because extra fat stores are a boon to surviving bouts of pneumonia, colon cancer, and other wasting-type longer-term diseases that strike elderly populations more often than younger people. Also worth noting, having a little bit of fat on your face as you move into your 30s, 40s and beyond makes you look younger.
That said, I'm pretty close to your height, and while body type does matter, 105 is definitely not an attractive weight on me!
I'm 56, so I'm definitely past the "starting point", which is over 50. You are right about carrying a little extra fat making you look younger. The extra fat in my face and figure do make me look 10 years younger; I have a younger sister who is taller than I am and 10 lbs. lighter, and she does look older than I do.
I found this exactly, I look 20 years younger at an overweight bmi!:-)
Yeah I used to get comments all the time about how I hadn't changed in 10 years, when I was 27 people asked me where I went to school etc... now I look my age. Sigh.0 -
Dsadvocate, sounds great, unless you are over 51 years. Then its better to be 27 bmi or more, you know for bones, muscles and all that!
This is extremely inaccurate. The heavier you are, the more weight is on your bones, joints, muscles, etc. This is even more of an issue the older you get, putting older adults at a higher risk for arthritis and osteoarthritis.0
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