plant based diet ?
jfmorache
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Hi guys just wanna have your opinions about a plant based diet. healthy ? Enough protein ? Ect.. Plant based eating is getting a lot of support recently ..
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Looking at your diary, you eat meat, so my question is why?0
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>Is it healthy?
Do you get all the macro- and micronutrients you need from your food? If so, yes. Healthy is a very vague word. Just because something is getting a lot of support doesn't mean it's good - the anti-vaccination movement gained a lot of support, too.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »No better or no worse than an omnivorous diet.
This. If it's something you want to do for a particular reason, you can make it healthy. It also can be unhealthy.
As for protein, you could likely hit your goals, but you would need to be very deliberate about working it into your daily goal. It could take a lot of preplanning depending on what you are trying to cut from your diet.
If you are thinking of getting rid of meat just because it's "healthier". Eh.0 -
I think it's a lousy idea - the fats and proteins are usually a mess. The animal-based diet is superior, IMO. The primary value of eating plants is due to hormesis effects, I think, and best served if they are an adjunct to a solid base of animal foods.
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Eating a plant-based diet is not for the faint of heart. It takes dedication to get the proper nutrients without supplements. Many, if not most, people take up a plant-based diet for "ethical" reasons. In my opinion, an omnivorous diet is easier and more natural for human beings and better to stick to as a rule.
Please note: You can look at my diary and see that I don't eat a lot of red meat. It's more that I can't afford a lot of red meat rather than my having any objection to it.0 -
Yeah but Bacon0
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It's unnecessary and there's no compelling reason to eat a plant-based diet unless you are committed to it for ethical concerns.
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It is no better for health and weight loss than having an omnivore diet.0
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I'm vegan and agree it's not more or less healthy than an omni diet unless you make it. Some days I'm a healthy vegan, most I'm not!
As for protein, I cope fine. Hit my daily goals without trying regularly and I'm only on 1200 cals! I eat a lot of tofu in different dishes, and soy mince/meats have tonnes as well as really low in calories.
You will find that you're forced in to a lot of home cooking if you don't already, and that does tend to be a lot healthier.0 -
I like meat too much but if you want to do it, do it; however, there is nothing "better" or "magical" about it...0
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Thx for the great answer everyone
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Hi guys just wanna have your opinions about a plant based diet. healthy ? Enough protein ? Ect.. Plant based eating is getting a lot of support recently ..
I've found it to be very beneficial, and I'm a cheap-*kitten* college student and have no prolem with reaching my nutritional and caloric goals. Protein is no problem at all, I don't even use protein powder at all anymore. It's in everything from grains, legumes, veggies & nuts. Plus you'll be doing the animals and planet a favor0 -
If you're worried about protein, plant fusion has a great chocolate protein powder0
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I've been vegetarian in the past, as I was a poor college student, and found I could eat a well-balanced, nutritious diet without the added expense of meat (I did consume eggs and limited dairy, because CHEESE and OMELETS = yummy; but I'm sure those aren't necessary). So my choice was solely financially based--which is a completely valid consideration.
But, I would never say that plant-based vs. omni diet is inherently a healthy vs. unhealthy proposition. You can eat unhealthy/unbalanced under any eating style, or both can be very nutritionally balanced. It's all about what works for your goals, food tastes, etc.0 -
Hi guys just wanna have your opinions about a plant based diet. healthy ? Enough protein ? Ect.. Plant based eating is getting a lot of support recently ..
You asked about Plant Based, not Vegan...
I'm 99% Plant Based and have been for over a year now. Plants are a much healthier source of protein because they do not contain saturated fats, cholesterol, and whatever bacteria and antibiotics they have to inject animals with. Plant proteins have antioxidants and phytonutrients that protect against and reverse disease and I have no problem getting enough protein. Most people think they need way too much protein and are consuming on average, 50% more then the recommended daily amount. If you take in more protein then your body requires according to your BMI, it still get's stored as fat.
Don't be discouraged and do your own research. You won't find much support here since most fitness pals are adamant about eating meat for other reasons because it's a fact it's NOT healthier...
"Taking in more protein, especially animal protein, than your body needs is not a small matter. It ages you prematurely and can cause significant harm. The excess protein you are not using isn’t stored by the body as protein; it is converted to fat, or it is eliminated via the kidneys. Eliminating excess nitrogen via the urine leaches calcium and other minerals from the bones and breeds kidney stones."
http://www.vegkitchen.com/nutrition/animal-protein-vs-plant-based-protein
http://hippocratesinst.org/Vegan-Lifestyle/nutrition-phytonutrients
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/natural-health/myths-and-facts-of-vegan-nutrition-in-bodybuilding/
http://authoritynutrition.com/debunking-the-calorie-myth/1 -
MEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.
Humans evolved to eat it.0 -
Hi guys just wanna have your opinions about a plant based diet. healthy ? Enough protein ? Ect.. Plant based eating is getting a lot of support recently ..
You asked about Plant Based, not Vegan...
I'm 99% Plant Based and have been for over a year now. Plants are a much healthier source of protein because they do not contain saturated fats, cholesterol, and whatever bacteria and antibiotics they have to inject animals with. Plant proteins have antioxidants and phytonutrients that protect against and reverse disease and I have no problem getting enough protein. Most people think they need way too much protein and are consuming on average, 50% more then the recommended daily amount. If you take in more protein then your body requires according to your BMI, it still get's stored as fat.
Don't be discouraged and do your own research. You won't find much support here since most fitness pals are adamant about eating meat for other reasons because it's a fact it's NOT healthier...
"Taking in more protein, especially animal protein, than your body needs is not a small matter. It ages you prematurely and can cause significant harm. The excess protein you are not using isn’t stored by the body as protein; it is converted to fat, or it is eliminated via the kidneys. Eliminating excess nitrogen via the urine leaches calcium and other minerals from the bones and breeds kidney stones."
http://www.vegkitchen.com/nutrition/animal-protein-vs-plant-based-protein
http://hippocratesinst.org/Vegan-Lifestyle/nutrition-phytonutrients
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/natural-health/myths-and-facts-of-vegan-nutrition-in-bodybuilding/
http://authoritynutrition.com/debunking-the-calorie-myth/
Yeah... No. If you eat more calories than your body needs it will get stored as fat. It doesn't matter if those calories come from protien, fat or carbs. This is just protien fear mongering-which I have to say I've never seen before.0 -
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What about phyto-toxins, phytates and lectins. What about impared mineral absorption? What about myco-toxins in fungi & mould? (Quorn is a mould by the way)
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The OP- seems to think plants are completly benign and meat is the devil's food.0
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Like I said for anyone looking into and asking about a plant based solution...do NOT be discouraged by those trying to intimidate you. No offence to those who are honest and know the health risks associated with meat and dairy...but for those that really think that plant based is not healthier...you need to do your research.
It's not all about calories in and calories out...it's also about health risks and that comes from the source of those calories that can better your health and that is what some people care about.
Just friend me if your interested. I really don't want to waste my energy here on people that just want to bash and discourage others.0 -
For the record, I am not going into forums about meat and dairy discouraging and pushing plant based...however, I see a barrage of others doing that in the vegan and plant based topics...I'm new here and that is something I observed right away!
I'm simply answering people that are posting questions about something I'm willing to share with those interested and have experience with.0 -
For the record, I am not going into forums about meat and dairy discouraging and pushing plant based...however, I see a barrage of others doing that in the vegan and plant based topics...I'm new here and that is something I observed right away!
I'm simply answering people that are posting questions about something I'm willing to share with those interested and have experience with.
That is because going vegan or vegetarian does not automatically equal weightloss or being healthier. It is great if someone whats to do it for moral/ethical reasons, but to preach that it will make you healthier? No.0 -
For the record, I am not going into forums about meat and dairy discouraging and pushing plant based...however, I see a barrage of others doing that in the vegan and plant based topics...I'm new here and that is something I observed right away!
I'm simply answering people that are posting questions about something I'm willing to share with those interested and have experience with.
The issue is that your information is not that good. You could do a lot more for veganism if you used accurate information.
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For the record, I am not going into forums about meat and dairy discouraging and pushing plant based...however, I see a barrage of others doing that in the vegan and plant based topics...I'm new here and that is something I observed right away!
I'm simply answering people that are posting questions about something I'm willing to share with those interested and have experience with.
Thanks for sharing those links. The calories in calories out article made very interesting reading and the source seems very credible. I posted it as a separate thread as I thought it worthy.0 -
Chrysalid2014 wrote: »For the record, I am not going into forums about meat and dairy discouraging and pushing plant based...however, I see a barrage of others doing that in the vegan and plant based topics...I'm new here and that is something I observed right away!
I'm simply answering people that are posting questions about something I'm willing to share with those interested and have experience with.
Thanks for sharing those links. The calories in calories out article made very interesting reading and the source seems very credible. I posted it as a separate thread as I thought it worthy.
You mean the thread that got closed?
Those links are the very definition of not credible. Three of them are from very biased sites and as for the last one, well. :noway:0 -
Iron_Feline wrote: »You mean the thread that got closed?
Yes, the thread was closed (not deleted) so the link is still there for anyone who's actually interested.0
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