I cannot gain weight.. CANT DO IT ;(
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emily_stew wrote: »In fairness, I do always have an ice cream and a pizza hoard in my freezer..I don't like to be without. Haha. I just don't eat it all day err'day.
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it so wrong, I can't even correct it...
So wrong you can't correct it..but why not? If you have the knowledge, experience, or are yourself a nutritionist / doctor...why not correct him?
I am going to go out on a limb and say those who say he is wrong simply can't correct him. Because they don't know any better themselves (i.e. the above quoted poster).
I'd like to know why you should horde ice cream, pizza, and other things is the 'way to go' if you are a hard gainer?
The funniest part about your post is that the people you are claiming don't know any better themselves are some of the more knowledgeable and successful people around here. You just arrived and think you have the ability to pass judgement on what we know.
Nice strawman with the horde ice cream comment. We've never seen anyone try to debate using that tactic before. Never.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Nobody said anything about hording ice cream and pizza..having these things as part of an otherwise nutritious diet is just fine and when trying to gain weight can be very beneficial.
I did a bulk starting in the early fall and through the new year...I needed to consistently get around 3200ish calories per day...I still ate my 6-8 servings of fruit and veg per day...my whole grains, lean proteins, and healthy fats...but to consistently hit my calorie targets required me to have some "junk"...note I said some...I know how people like to translate that as "nothing but twinkies all day long."
Also, if I'm hitting on all of my nutrition, how do I benefit from more broccoli?
I understand that increase in caloric intake as well as anyone. I just don't understand the immediate recommendation of ice cream and like high calorie foods that carry with them potential issues with lactose or gluten intolerance.
And considering you are quite obviously upset that someone recommends healthier alternatives that supplementing with ice cream and cake...0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Nobody said anything about hording ice cream and pizza..having these things as part of an otherwise nutritious diet is just fine and when trying to gain weight can be very beneficial.
I did a bulk starting in the early fall and through the new year...I needed to consistently get around 3200ish calories per day...I still ate my 6-8 servings of fruit and veg per day...my whole grains, lean proteins, and healthy fats...but to consistently hit my calorie targets required me to have some "junk"...note I said some...I know how you idiots like to translate that as "nothing but twinkies all day long."
Also, if I'm hitting on all of my nutrition, how do I benefit from more broccoli?
I understand that increase in caloric intake as well as anyone. I just don't understand the immediate recommendation of ice cream and like high calorie foods that carry with them potential issues with lactose or gluten intolerance.
And considering you are quite obviously upset that someone recommends healthier alternatives that supplementing with ice cream and cake...
now you are just being intentionally obtuse…
if you don't have a gluten or lactose intolerance then what does it matter? OP never mentioned any medical condition...
Good luck bulking on fish, chicken, rice, and vegetables.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Nobody said anything about hording ice cream and pizza..having these things as part of an otherwise nutritious diet is just fine and when trying to gain weight can be very beneficial.
I did a bulk starting in the early fall and through the new year...I needed to consistently get around 3200ish calories per day...I still ate my 6-8 servings of fruit and veg per day...my whole grains, lean proteins, and healthy fats...but to consistently hit my calorie targets required me to have some "junk"...note I said some...I know how you idiots like to translate that as "nothing but twinkies all day long."
Also, if I'm hitting on all of my nutrition, how do I benefit from more broccoli?
I understand that increase in caloric intake as well as anyone. I just don't understand the immediate recommendation of ice cream and like high calorie foods that carry with them potential issues with lactose or gluten intolerance.
And considering you are quite obviously upset that someone recommends healthier alternatives that supplementing with ice cream and cake...
So someone is just going to magically develop gluten and lactose intolerance overnight...pretty sure most people are going to know if they have that already...derp.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »You're funny.
I don't see what the problem with having pizza and/or ice cream as part of a balanced diet (diet referring to what a person eats). Pizza and ice cream have nutrition and are calorie dense to boot, so I would think they would be ideal for someone who is having trouble gaining weight. No one, not a single person here, is making the claim that one should only eat ice cream and pizza.
What are your credentials? Where are you getting your information from?
I really need to see about changing my username...I'm getting tired of randoms addressing me by my first name like they know me.
Not sure why you are so offended when someone has a different idea than you. And not one person here (including me) is saying you should only eat ice cream and cake or fruits and vegetables. My recommendation is always speak with a nutritionist and understand both your metabolic rate and water retention %. Then as always you need to know if (especially if you have trouble gaining weight) you have medical conditions or food allergies that complicate your diet.
And my credits include being a hard gainer for the better part of 20 years. Even eating all the things including ice cream, cookies, pizza, 'just to get the calories'. They also include having multiple family members with stage 4 celiac disease qualifies me to question all your recommendations.
Everyone has different experiences, problems as well as solutions. So if anyone here whom has espoused their opinions would like to list their credentials be my guest.0 -
emily_stew wrote: »You're funny.
I don't see what the problem with having pizza and/or ice cream as part of a balanced diet (diet referring to what a person eats). Pizza and ice cream have nutrition and are calorie dense to boot, so I would think they would be ideal for someone who is having trouble gaining weight. No one, not a single person here, is making the claim that one should only eat ice cream and pizza.
What are your credentials? Where are you getting your information from?
I really need to see about changing my username...I'm getting tired of randoms addressing me by my first name like they know me.
Not sure why you are so offended when someone has a different idea than you. And not one person here (including me) is saying you should only eat ice cream and cake or fruits and vegetables. My recommendation is always speak with a nutritionist and understand both your metabolic rate and water retention %. Then as always you need to know if (especially if you have trouble gaining weight) you have medical conditions or food allergies that complicate your diet.
And my credits include being a hard gainer for the better part of 20 years. Even eating all the things including ice cream, cookies, pizza, 'just to get the calories'. They also include having multiple family members with stage 4 celiac disease qualifies me to question all your recommendations.
Everyone has different experiences, problems as well as solutions. So if anyone here whom has espoused their opinions would like to list their credentials be my guest.
so you have no credentials…got ya...0 -
The funniest part about your post is that the people you are claiming don't know any better themselves are some of the more knowledgeable and successful people around here. You just arrived and think you have the ability to pass judgement on what we know.
Nice strawman with the horde ice cream comment. We've never seen anyone try to debate using that tactic before. Never.
I am happy they are successful, I really am. That however...as my 'just arriving' has no relevance on my ability to judge someone else's recommendations. Nor does just arriving mean my recommendations or questions have any less credibility than anyone else's.
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The funniest part about your post is that the people you are claiming don't know any better themselves are some of the more knowledgeable and successful people around here. You just arrived and think you have the ability to pass judgement on what we know.
Nice strawman with the horde ice cream comment. We've never seen anyone try to debate using that tactic before. Never.
I am happy they are successful, I really am. That however...as my 'just arriving' has no relevance on my ability to judge someone else's recommendations. Nor does just arriving mean my recommendations or questions have any less credibility than anyone else's.
based on your posts in here, you should of just staid out as you have offered zero substance…
all you have done is make straw man arguments...0 -
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Emily and Wheelhouse why is it so hard to explain why you should eat ice cream, pizza, etc for added calories? Why not focus on clean healthy alternatives? You can get plenty of calories for things other than dairy products.
And besides that...clearly neither of you have the credentials to defend your assertions nor apparently the mental fortitude to explain them either. Is it really that big of a deal to simply explain why you recommend what you recommend? Or can you only recommend what someone else recommended via the grapr vine?
I passed my micro bio, neuro phys, and bio chem courses. I don't need to go to a cheap magazine article, but your debating skills are as bad as they come.0 -
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maybe some whole foods, whole milk yogurt, almond butter, peanut butter, avocado. You can eat 3,000 calories in those foods quickly.0
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zachbonner wrote: »people who think they eat a lot generally don't
Perception is a funny thing and you see it a lot on the weight loss side too.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »zachbonner wrote: »people who think they eat a lot generally don't
Perception is a funny thing and you see it a lot on the weight loss side too.
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zachbonner wrote: »people who think they eat a lot generally don't
Just like people who think they don't eat that much actually do. The brain seems to be the biggest enemy whether it's weight loss or weight gain.
And as a random comment, peanut butter is a huge recommendation thrown out for what to eat to get more calories as well. And no one checks to see if the person has peanut allergies.
Typically the recommendations are a long list of calorie dense food, which often include many things but also peanut butter, ice cream, and cookies. People should take from the list what works for them. Period.0 -
Or to take advice from my GP who is actually obese. Yeup, OK.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Emily and Wheelhouse why is it so hard to explain why you should eat ice cream, pizza, etc for added calories? Why not focus on clean healthy alternatives? You can get plenty of calories for things other than dairy products.
And besides that...clearly neither of you have the credentials to defend your assertions nor apparently the mental fortitude to explain them either. Is it really that big of a deal to simply explain why you recommend what you recommend? Or can you only recommend what someone else recommended via the grapr vine?
I passed my micro bio, neuro phys, and bio chem courses. I don't need to go to a cheap magazine article, but your debating skills are as bad as they come.0 -
Or to take advice from my GP who is actually obese. Yeup, OK.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Emily and Wheelhouse why is it so hard to explain why you should eat ice cream, pizza, etc for added calories? Why not focus on clean healthy alternatives? You can get plenty of calories for things other than dairy products.
And besides that...clearly neither of you have the credentials to defend your assertions nor apparently the mental fortitude to explain them either. Is it really that big of a deal to simply explain why you recommend what you recommend? Or can you only recommend what someone else recommended via the grapr vine?
I passed my micro bio, neuro phys, and bio chem courses. I don't need to go to a cheap magazine article, but your debating skills are as bad as they come.
LOL how many health practisioners are obese and in ill health? A lot!0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
Or to take advice from my GP who is actually obese. Yeup, OK.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Emily and Wheelhouse why is it so hard to explain why you should eat ice cream, pizza, etc for added calories? Why not focus on clean healthy alternatives? You can get plenty of calories for things other than dairy products.
And besides that...clearly neither of you have the credentials to defend your assertions nor apparently the mental fortitude to explain them either. Is it really that big of a deal to simply explain why you recommend what you recommend? Or can you only recommend what someone else recommended via the grapr vine?
I passed my micro bio, neuro phys, and bio chem courses. I don't need to go to a cheap magazine article, but your debating skills are as bad as they come.
LOL how many health practisioners are obese and in ill health? A lot!
I was just listening to an NPR story about how many older Americans are finding themselves overweight and at risk for serious health problems and so they are being encouraged to lose weight. They "listened in" on one woman speaking to her doctor about weight loss, and they pointed out that the doctor was also overweight. The doctor said to "eat vegetables because the fiber helps free fat". Um, yeah...0 -
Pass the brocc, doc!Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
Or to take advice from my GP who is actually obese. Yeup, OK.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Emily and Wheelhouse why is it so hard to explain why you should eat ice cream, pizza, etc for added calories? Why not focus on clean healthy alternatives? You can get plenty of calories for things other than dairy products.
And besides that...clearly neither of you have the credentials to defend your assertions nor apparently the mental fortitude to explain them either. Is it really that big of a deal to simply explain why you recommend what you recommend? Or can you only recommend what someone else recommended via the grapr vine?
I passed my micro bio, neuro phys, and bio chem courses. I don't need to go to a cheap magazine article, but your debating skills are as bad as they come.
LOL how many health practisioners are obese and in ill health? A lot!
I was just listening to an NPR story about how many older Americans are finding themselves overweight and at risk for serious health problems and so they are being encouraged to lose weight. They "listened in" on one woman speaking to her doctor about weight loss, and they pointed out that the doctor was also overweight. The doctor said to "eat vegetables because the fiber helps free fat". Um, yeah...
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
Or to take advice from my GP who is actually obese. Yeup, OK.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Emily and Wheelhouse why is it so hard to explain why you should eat ice cream, pizza, etc for added calories? Why not focus on clean healthy alternatives? You can get plenty of calories for things other than dairy products.
And besides that...clearly neither of you have the credentials to defend your assertions nor apparently the mental fortitude to explain them either. Is it really that big of a deal to simply explain why you recommend what you recommend? Or can you only recommend what someone else recommended via the grapr vine?
I passed my micro bio, neuro phys, and bio chem courses. I don't need to go to a cheap magazine article, but your debating skills are as bad as they come.
LOL how many health practisioners are obese and in ill health? A lot!
I was just listening to an NPR story about how many older Americans are finding themselves overweight and at risk for serious health problems and so they are being encouraged to lose weight. They "listened in" on one woman speaking to her doctor about weight loss, and they pointed out that the doctor was also overweight. The doctor said to "eat vegetables because the fiber helps free fat". Um, yeah...
Problem is that not all doctors are very well educated in the preventative aspects of health so they may be no further a head of most when it comes to diet and exercise knowledge despite their education. I remember reading a good book by Dr. David Ruben back in the 80's and he said that the average doctor knew only a little more than his receptionist, unless she was overweight then she probably knew a little bit more than him (yes, the language was sexist when writen). I hope that things have really changed but I'm not so sure after reading your post.0 -
ShannonP8826 wrote: »I am having trouble gaining weight too I haven't eaten right not exercising and not feeling good about myself. I started the gym at 88 pounds 6 years ago I been lifting more than before eating more protein bars and eating more but no gaining but I realized that you have to push yourself to the limit to do it I have a trainer that helps me I weighed 88 pounds now I set my short goal to 110 pounds now I I hit my goal of 110 pounds today on February 20th 2015 and starting a new goal of 120 pounds. I feels good to weigh 110 pounds now. If you want to succeed in life and weight gain push yourself to the limit and you will succeed.
Wow! That's great buddy! What happened to you that you were 88 lbs?!! If it's too personal to post on here or whatever I understand, anyway it's great to see you've hit 110, and making new goals as you go along that's awesome. How tall are you?0 -
And for the love of Christ (sorry if that offended anyone), leave that srdk or whatever his name is alone. haha. He does somewhat have a point. Most of us don't follow this, but eating healthy should be somewhat of a priority. I mean let's not tell people who want to gain weight to eat boxes of oreos everyday, I mean honestly when we get older we're going to pay for it health wise. We all don't think about that now because most of us our fairly young it seems. Now don't get me wrong I don't really watch what I eat, but I can tell you that I don't eat pizza, I don't eat ice cream, I don't cookies and cakes. I have managed to still gain weight and eat lots of calories without eating said items. We should welcome all people's opinions and suggestions, the OP can take whatever opinon is most helpful in the end.0
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And for the love of Christ (sorry if that offended anyone), leave that srdk or whatever his name is alone. haha. He does somewhat have a point. Most of us don't follow this, but eating healthy should be somewhat of a priority. I mean let's not tell people who want to gain weight to eat boxes of oreos everyday, I mean honestly when we get older we're going to pay for it health wise. We all don't think about that now because most of us our fairly young it seems. Now don't get me wrong I don't really watch what I eat, but I can tell you that I don't eat pizza, I don't eat ice cream, I don't cookies and cakes. I have managed to still gain weight and eat lots of calories without eating said items. We should welcome all people's opinions and suggestions, the OP can take whatever opinon is most helpful in the end.
Yea, no one told anyone to eat boxes of Oreos every day. How hard of a concept is it? Meet your nutritional requirements. Fill the rest up with foods you enjoy. It's a simple concept but everyone seems to always go to "eat boxes of Oreos everyday" despite the fact that it is never recommended by anyone. A healthy diet ( and by healthy, I mean just as healthy as a completely whole food, nutrient dense diet or any other for that matter) can include pizza, cookies, Oreos, ice cream, or anything else.
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