Does Coconut Oil really help with fat loss?
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »
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Enough with the coconut oil already. You're using up all the resources of indigenous peoples.0
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First of all, that is chickens, not humans. Secondly it increases total serum cholesterol http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12716665jennifershoo wrote: »sassymouth23 wrote: »In fact it does help with fat burning. The awesome nutrients and antioxidants help cleanse your body of toxins throughout the day. One table spoon a day is a great way to start. Use it in your coffee, substitute it for cooking oil and even moisturizer with it. There are tons of benefits coconut oil has . Do some research. It is NOT a myth.! (*) Johnellenakedraygun wrote: »
Which toxins? Exactly which toxins are you referring too?
Also what nutrients? Coconut oil is pure fat. The lauric acid is good when applied to the hair because it is one of the few fatty acids that can penetrate the hair shaft, rather than just sit on it. Unfortunately, the lauric acid also is a saturated fat that raises total blood cholesterol. Caution should also be used if applying coconut oil to the skin because it has a comedogenic rating of 4 (out of 5). I usually use babassu oil. Very similar fatty acid profile as coconut but the comedogenic rating is 1.
No. Actually, it's quite the opposite. The medium chain of fatty acid of coconut oil decreases serum cholesterol and LDL levels.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25557818
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Myth..portion control and healthy foods help with weight loss.0
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She sites research. Fails to provide links to said research. [/quote]
She does not cite research, just tells OP to do research.
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tincanonastring wrote: »Only if you follow it up with a coffee enema and a juice cleanse.
Tin - you always forget the maple syrup and cayenne!0 -
lenkearney wrote: »I heard this also, and tried adding to my coffee.
While I am not endorsing this, i can say on the three days i did this- I just had coffee for breakfast and did not feel hungry in the morning.
Today I added some protein powder and I did not feel hungry. I felt like I wanted to eat, but that was muscle memory- I was not hungry. I will be trying this for a while.
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nakedraygun wrote: »Very quick google search, I find me this...
6 Ways Coconut Oil Helps You Lose Weight
Oh yippy 5%! (how they even come to that number lulz...)Coconut Oil Increases Your Energy Levels
"Coconut oil is comprised mainly of the medium-chain triglyceride (MCT) lauric acid. This essential fatty acid metabolizes very differently when compared to other saturated fats such as those contained in most meat and dairy products. The human body does not store digested MCTs as fat, but instead transports them directly to the liver where MCTs are quickly converted into energy. What does this mean for your weight loss efforts?
Add two to three tablespoons of coconut oil to your daily dietary regimen. When consumed in the morning, coconut oil can boost your energy levels by an average of 5% for a full twenty-four hour period!"
Curious I googled "are mct's transported to your liver?" Returned this...
Medium-Chain Triglycerides
So the science isn't all there and while some of it might be promising, most of it doesn't support the claims being made by the quick-fix super-food magic-bullet diet crowd.Therapeutic Uses
"Preliminary evidence suggests that MCTs are a useful fat substitute for those who have difficulty digesting fat. This makes MCTs potentially helpful for people with AIDS , who need to find a way to gain weight but cannot digest fat easily. 1,2 MCTs might theoretically be helpful for those who have trouble digesting fatty foods because they lack the proper enzymes (pancreatic insufficiency), but taking digestive enzymes appears to be more effective. 3
Although this may sound paradoxical given the above, some evidence suggests that MCT consumption might also enhance the body's natural tendency to burn fat. 22-24,34 On this basis, the supplement has been proposed as a weight loss aid. Unfortunately, the results of studies have generally failed to find any weight loss benefits. 25,26,29,31,32 Some studies have, however, found that use of MCTs might produce improvements in body composition (ratio of fat to lean tissue). 29,31 A related supplement called structured medium- and long-chain triacylglycerols (SMLCT) has been created to provide the same potential benefits as MCTs, but in a form that can be used as cooking oil. In a preliminary double-blind trial, SMLCT has also shown some promise for enhancing body composition. 30
Athletes often sip carbohydrate-loaded drinks during exercise. MCTs may provide an alternative. Like other fats, they provide more energy per ounce than carbohydrates; but unlike normal fats, this energy can be released rapidly. 14 A number of double-blind trials using MCTs for improving high-intensity or endurance exercise performance have been conducted, but the results have been thoroughly inconsistent. 15-21 This is not surprising, as none of these studies enrolled enough participants to provide trustworthy results.
One placebo-controlled study found hints that use of MCTs by people with type 2 diabetes might improve insulin sensitivity and aid weight loss. 35
Larger studies are necessary to discover whether MCTs are really as useful for athletes as the supplement’s proponents claim."
The only thing I remember about MCT's was the supposed benefit for power lifters / body builders. Parrillo sells something called CapTri or something like that, that I used years and years ago when I was doing some power lifting as it was recommended by some of the guys I worked out with. Used it as a cooking oil, not a direct supplement. Supposedly MCT's are supposed to be slightly lower than 9 calories per gram (something like 8.8 or 8.7 or something) and supposedly MCT's are supposed to be treated somewhere between a fat and a carb. I don't think thins was ever proven in any large scientific studies though, and paying $20+ for a bottle of cooking oil is not worth it to me as I really did not see any benefit. Of course, I am not a high performance athlete either.
I think the points above that I quoted before mine lay it out nicely. They really need to do large scale studies on athletes to see if there is anything to the MCT claims, but most athletes are not going to mess with what they already do.0 -
well I can say I gained weight with it(before I started logging everything), it hasnt helped my cholesterol, my daughters acne got worse when using it on her face(suppose to clear up acne) and it gives me the runs now when I use it to even cook with(doesnt matter how its "processed" or what brand).It hasnt done anything for me that it promotes. Oh and it supposedly gives you energy-yeah didnt happen either.0
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nakedraygun wrote: »Very quick google search, I find me this...
6 Ways Coconut Oil Helps You Lose Weight
Oh yippy 5%! (how they even come to that number lulz...)Coconut Oil Increases Your Energy Levels
"Coconut oil is comprised mainly of the medium-chain triglyceride (MCT) lauric acid. This essential fatty acid metabolizes very differently when compared to other saturated fats such as those contained in most meat and dairy products. The human body does not store digested MCTs as fat, but instead transports them directly to the liver where MCTs are quickly converted into energy. What does this mean for your weight loss efforts?
Add two to three tablespoons of coconut oil to your daily dietary regimen. When consumed in the morning, coconut oil can boost your energy levels by an average of 5% for a full twenty-four hour period!"
Curious I googled "are mct's transported to your liver?" Returned this...
Medium-Chain Triglycerides
So the science isn't all there and while some of it might be promising, most of it doesn't support the claims being made by the quick-fix super-food magic-bullet diet crowd.Therapeutic Uses
"Preliminary evidence suggests that MCTs are a useful fat substitute for those who have difficulty digesting fat. This makes MCTs potentially helpful for people with AIDS , who need to find a way to gain weight but cannot digest fat easily. 1,2 MCTs might theoretically be helpful for those who have trouble digesting fatty foods because they lack the proper enzymes (pancreatic insufficiency), but taking digestive enzymes appears to be more effective. 3
Although this may sound paradoxical given the above, some evidence suggests that MCT consumption might also enhance the body's natural tendency to burn fat. 22-24,34 On this basis, the supplement has been proposed as a weight loss aid. Unfortunately, the results of studies have generally failed to find any weight loss benefits. 25,26,29,31,32 Some studies have, however, found that use of MCTs might produce improvements in body composition (ratio of fat to lean tissue). 29,31 A related supplement called structured medium- and long-chain triacylglycerols (SMLCT) has been created to provide the same potential benefits as MCTs, but in a form that can be used as cooking oil. In a preliminary double-blind trial, SMLCT has also shown some promise for enhancing body composition. 30
Athletes often sip carbohydrate-loaded drinks during exercise. MCTs may provide an alternative. Like other fats, they provide more energy per ounce than carbohydrates; but unlike normal fats, this energy can be released rapidly. 14 A number of double-blind trials using MCTs for improving high-intensity or endurance exercise performance have been conducted, but the results have been thoroughly inconsistent. 15-21 This is not surprising, as none of these studies enrolled enough participants to provide trustworthy results.
One placebo-controlled study found hints that use of MCTs by people with type 2 diabetes might improve insulin sensitivity and aid weight loss. 35
Larger studies are necessary to discover whether MCTs are really as useful for athletes as the supplement’s proponents claim."
The only thing I remember about MCT's was the supposed benefit for power lifters / body builders. Parrillo sells something called CapTri or something like that, that I used years and years ago when I was doing some power lifting as it was recommended by some of the guys I worked out with. Used it as a cooking oil, not a direct supplement. Supposedly MCT's are supposed to be slightly lower than 9 calories per gram (something like 8.8 or 8.7 or something) and supposedly MCT's are supposed to be treated somewhere between a fat and a carb. I don't think thins was ever proven in any large scientific studies though, and paying $20+ for a bottle of cooking oil is not worth it to me as I really did not see any benefit. Of course, I am not a high performance athlete either.
I think the points above that I quoted before mine lay it out nicely. They really need to do large scale studies on athletes to see if there is anything to the MCT claims, but most athletes are not going to mess with what they already do.
Interesting stuff. Some stuff I read also points that MCT could be beneficial to athletes.
For my money, I think I will stick with whey, creatine, and coffee.0 -
Good question, OP. I know a lot of people have been told coconut oil will magically increase metabolism. It's not true. It is filling and when I use to add it to my breakfast smoothies, I would stay satiated longer, but adding 100 calories of fat will do that for ya. I add ground flaxseed now.
Also, the Mayo Clinic article cited says,
"Although eating coconut oil in moderation isn't likely to harm your health, it's not likely to help you lose weight either. For successful, long-term weight loss, stick to the basics — an overall healthy-eating plan and exercise."0 -
First of all, that is chickens, not humans. Secondly it increases total serum cholesterol http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12716665jennifershoo wrote: »sassymouth23 wrote: »In fact it does help with fat burning. The awesome nutrients and antioxidants help cleanse your body of toxins throughout the day. One table spoon a day is a great way to start. Use it in your coffee, substitute it for cooking oil and even moisturizer with it. There are tons of benefits coconut oil has . Do some research. It is NOT a myth.! (*) Johnellenakedraygun wrote: »
Which toxins? Exactly which toxins are you referring too?
Also what nutrients? Coconut oil is pure fat. The lauric acid is good when applied to the hair because it is one of the few fatty acids that can penetrate the hair shaft, rather than just sit on it. Unfortunately, the lauric acid also is a saturated fat that raises total blood cholesterol. Caution should also be used if applying coconut oil to the skin because it has a comedogenic rating of 4 (out of 5). I usually use babassu oil. Very similar fatty acid profile as coconut but the comedogenic rating is 1.
No. Actually, it's quite the opposite. The medium chain of fatty acid of coconut oil decreases serum cholesterol and LDL levels.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25557818
The article you quote is not about coconut oil. Coconut oil has more than just lauric acid in it. It does not behave like a regular saturated fat. It is still a subject of numerous researches.0 -
It basically boils down to this - there have been no long term scientific studies done to prove it one way or the other. If you want to believe it one way you will. Until they do a true scientific study, we cannot really prove anything. And, with there not really being a ton of money involved in it, I don't see it happening either.
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Well to be honest the article that has you all excited is about chickens.jennifershoo wrote: »
First of all, that is chickens, not humans. Secondly it increases total serum cholesterol http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12716665jennifershoo wrote: »sassymouth23 wrote: »In fact it does help with fat burning. The awesome nutrients and antioxidants help cleanse your body of toxins throughout the day. One table spoon a day is a great way to start. Use it in your coffee, substitute it for cooking oil and even moisturizer with it. There are tons of benefits coconut oil has . Do some research. It is NOT a myth.! (*) Johnellenakedraygun wrote: »
Which toxins? Exactly which toxins are you referring too?
Also what nutrients? Coconut oil is pure fat. The lauric acid is good when applied to the hair because it is one of the few fatty acids that can penetrate the hair shaft, rather than just sit on it. Unfortunately, the lauric acid also is a saturated fat that raises total blood cholesterol. Caution should also be used if applying coconut oil to the skin because it has a comedogenic rating of 4 (out of 5). I usually use babassu oil. Very similar fatty acid profile as coconut but the comedogenic rating is 1.
No. Actually, it's quite the opposite. The medium chain of fatty acid of coconut oil decreases serum cholesterol and LDL levels.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25557818
The article you quote is not about coconut oil. Coconut oil has more than just lauric acid in it. It does not behave like a regular saturated fat. It is still a subject of numerous researches.
Look, coconut oil is metabolized differently then regular fats where they go directly to the liver and are converted to energy, and why all the hub bub with athletes and because they're used immediately for energy, like a carb there's less fat going to storage unlike other fats that do get stored, then used. Like most claims of miraculous benefits, there is some truth involve but it's mostly to take advantage of the gullible really if those said differences are showcased into a format that tries and deliver a unrealistic promise, most would be better off using it on their skin.......but with the coffee thingy going viral I don't see that happening anytime soon.
When I was researching coconut oil a few years ago to try and balance all the hype related to coconut oil, because I always try and do that was related to ketogenic diets and where the mct from the coconut oil was then extracted and fed to participants in an increasing percentage basis and if my memory serves, nothing really happened until the 40% of total calories, which translates to about 150 g's of MCT's based on a 2000 calorie diet and even then the results were pretty insignificant, but they were there, hence the little bit of truth that spurs this type of hype.
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There are reasons to switch from other oils to coconut oil. I use it for any pan frying I do, like fish and stir fry. It doesn't feel as heavy in my stomach and is easier for me to digest.
That being said, it's a fact that if you eat excess calories, your body will store energy as glycogen or fat.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »well I can say I gained weight with it(before I started logging everything), it hasnt helped my cholesterol, my daughters acne got worse when using it on her face(suppose to clear up acne) and it gives me the runs now when I use it to even cook with(doesnt matter how its "processed" or what brand).It hasnt done anything for me that it promotes. Oh and it supposedly gives you energy-yeah didnt happen either.
For your daughter
http://www.minimalistbeauty.com/oils-specifically-for-acne-prone-skin/
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I use it to cook with , small changes can add up. I use it as a spread instead of butter of margarine to.0
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I use it to cook with , small changes can add up. I use it as a spread instead of butter of margarine to.
What some people might notice is that coconut oil is a little bit of a bolder flavor profile, so they probably end up using a little less than they do with butter or other oils, so that would mean fewer calories. I don't know about using it as a spread as I have never tried, and don't plan on it, but if it is helping you by using less so you take in less calories, so much the better!0 -
Myth. Compared to other oils, coconut oil is really high in saturated fat. Pass.0
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I cannot fathom fat in coffee ...
That's was my first thought but then I realized cream is mostly fat.
I tried coconut oil in coffee. It's surprisingly ok. I couldn't do the full "bulletproof coffee" thing and put butter in there, too, though. I can imagine that is probably a decent constipation cure, though.
I've been making popcorn in coconut oil. It's pretty good. They say that's what movie theaters uses.
Mainly I'm trying to get rid of my Costco vat of it that is expired. I used to use it in the shower but got tired of having to pour degreaser down the drain periodically. It was a nice moisturizer, though. I'll have to try it on hair. My ferret likes a dab to eat, too.
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For anyone planning to try it in coffee, you really need to blend it. Use a cappuccino frother or a stick blender, otherwise you get an oil slick on top of the coffee. It's purely about satiety, not a magic unicorn fart that makes fat disappear.0
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I use coconut oil in cooking when applicable...but I truly find it hilarious that right now coconut oil is considered this magical food...just a couple decades ago, it was the devil...so much so that it was banned from being used to make popcorn at the movie theaters. It just cracks me up...
Yesterdays devil is today's angel...for now...until it's the devil again.0 -
thank youmumblemagic wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »well I can say I gained weight with it(before I started logging everything), it hasnt helped my cholesterol, my daughters acne got worse when using it on her face(suppose to clear up acne) and it gives me the runs now when I use it to even cook with(doesnt matter how its "processed" or what brand).It hasnt done anything for me that it promotes. Oh and it supposedly gives you energy-yeah didnt happen either.
For your daughter
http://www.minimalistbeauty.com/oils-specifically-for-acne-prone-skin/
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its supposed to be good for animals it has helped my dogs skin and coat and used it on hot spots he had last summer and it cleared it up,also ingesting it didnt harm him.WalkingAlong wrote: »I cannot fathom fat in coffee ...
That's was my first thought but then I realized cream is mostly fat.
I tried coconut oil in coffee. It's surprisingly ok. I couldn't do the full "bulletproof coffee" thing and put butter in there, too, though. I can imagine that is probably a decent constipation cure, though.
I've been making popcorn in coconut oil. It's pretty good. They say that's what movie theaters uses.
Mainly I'm trying to get rid of my Costco vat of it that is expired. I used to use it in the shower but got tired of having to pour degreaser down the drain periodically. It was a nice moisturizer, though. I'll have to try it on hair. My ferret likes a dab to eat, too.
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Re cosmetic uses - no one should be putting coconut oil on the face, especially not with acne, bad info on that one and I'm sorry for anyone who's come across that. It is great for dry hair, and elbows/knees/rough hands general body use, though.0
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I haven't read all the posts so someone might have already said this....coconut is fine to use sparingly....it is higher than most other oils in saturated fat however it cooks to a higher temp without converting to trans-fats which are the real bad ones that cause heart disease etc...most other oils get to a certain temp then convert to the trans-fats....coconut oil can handle much higher temperatures before converting.....closely followed by olive oil. However due to the high saturated fat content should only be used very sparingly :-) hope this helps :-)0
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I mean maybe if you substitute it for vegetable oil, but I highly doubt it. It is good for the skin though.0
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It's going to be a healthy fat, you'll want to make room for it. Make sure you have an overall deficit is all. Include it into your diet and don't think of it as "wasting 130" calories because any healthy oils (flax, coconut) is going to be healthy for you. Make room for it in your diet. Eating 130 calories worth of healthy oil in my opinion, is better than eating 130 calories of a large apple.
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It's going to be a healthy fat, you'll want to make room for it. Make sure you have an overall deficit is all. Include it into your diet and don't think of it as "wasting 130" calories because any healthy oils (flax, coconut) is going to be healthy for you. Make room for it in your diet. Eating 130 calories worth of healthy oil in my opinion, is better than eating 130 calories of a large apple.
Quite curious what is your reasoning behind that logic ?0
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