Is diet pop really bad for you?
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tedboosalis7 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Bad for you? Oh, probably. Most have Aspartame, which has quite a bad reputation.
Nothing wrong with aspartame: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
It has a bad rap for no real reason.
Enjoy
*Edit to add that it can be a migraine trigger for some (just like many things), so if that's the case with you, then avoid it. Or if you have PKU.
Aspartame is scary - it's the main reason why virtually all fitness industry protein powders use sucralose, which is now developing a reputation for being scary as well.
http://aspartame.mercola.com/
Last people I want to listen to are government bodies in bed with Corporate America. They have been wrong before, they will be wrong again (in fact, they are wrong on this topic).
Better off just using refined sugar than using some artificial sweetener derivative developed from the same people who developed Agent Orange.
No thanks.
Mercola is a known quack. He also believes microwaves are dangerous. Did you even read the link I posted?
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It does prevent weight loss because of the chemical artificial sweeteners such as sucralose, acesulfame-K (potassium), saccharin and aspartame. They have zero calories, but the chemicals and the sweet taste with zero calories doesn't trick the brain that you are eating sugar and instead stimulates your appetite so you eat more to make up for the calorie deficit the brain is expecting. It causes you to gain more weight and proportionately more fat and in turn slows your metabolism.
I would suggest a few things. You can put lemon or cucumber slices in your water to flavor it. You an also try sparkling mineral water (Perrier has flavored waters) or using plain and mixing with a little bit of 100% cranberry juice with a touch of stevia. The more you can fall in love with regular water - the better your weight loss.
I guess it prevented my weight loss so much that I lost more than 90 pounds and counting. Don't believe things that aren't true. If you like diet pop, drink it. Are there more nutrient dense drinks? Yes, but since diet pop barely adds any calories so you can afford drink that AND the more nutrient dense drinks, or best of all, just eat your nutrients with a glass of diet pop.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Jbarnes1210 wrote: »My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.
Just be sure and care for your teeth!
If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?
Well any acidic food is going to have an effect on your teeth. When it hits the even stronger acid in your stomach, the soda is going to change completely.
Also if people would take the time to learn some basic chemistry, maybe they wouldn't scare themselves about dangers that don't exist.
Ok, so what does diet soda become when mixed with stomach acid?
Not trying to start a debate, but this is an angle I don't think has ever been covered. I'm not a scientist so I would like to know.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Bad for you? Oh, probably. Most have Aspartame, which has quite a bad reputation.
Nothing wrong with aspartame: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
It has a bad rap for no real reason.
Enjoy
*Edit to add that it can be a migraine trigger for some (just like many things), so if that's the case with you, then avoid it. Or if you have PKU.
Aspartame is scary - it's the main reason why virtually all fitness industry protein powders use sucralose, which is now developing a reputation for being scary as well.
http://aspartame.mercola.com/
Last people I want to listen to are government bodies in bed with Corporate America. They have been wrong before, they will be wrong again (in fact, they are wrong on this topic).
Better off just using refined sugar than using some artificial sweetener derivative developed from the same people who developed Agent Orange.
No thanks.
So in keeping with that, I take it you have never used a synthetic antibiotic?
So much tin foil, so few hats.
I buy the Publix brand of aluminum foil. It's cheap and durable and I have a lot of it at the moment. I will gladly make aluminum hats for everyone on here that feels like they need one as long as they promise to stop posting Mercola articles.0 -
deviboy1592 wrote: »Still doesn't prove anything, doesn't mean it's safe or dangerous, all I know is what I see, of Pepsi can dissolve rust off a nail, I don't want it going through my liver.
You know what else can do that? A lemon.Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Jbarnes1210 wrote: »My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.
Just be sure and care for your teeth!
If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?
Well any acidic food is going to have an effect on your teeth. When it hits the even stronger acid in your stomach, the soda is going to change completely.
Also if people would take the time to learn some basic chemistry, maybe they wouldn't scare themselves about dangers that don't exist.
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I drank at least 2.5L of coke for more than 15 years every single day, and even though my teeth were still where they should be and I had no holes in my guts, I was consuming a billion of extra unnecessary calories and tons of unnecessary sugars. It took me "a while" to understand I had to change this habit.
Water? yes, but it tastes of nothing. So I switched to diet sodas, and along with exercise, moderation and the simply equation calories in < calories out, I lost >35kg, as per MFP plan.
So, yes, as many told you, based on their real life experience, and common sense , you can drink it as much as you like it. Normally it has ~ 1 calorie / 250 ml, so a 2L bottle will be ~8 calories (to be classified as "zero calorie drink", if I remember correctly, it has to have < 5 calories / serving).
It's not even worth to spend 1 second on the aspartame/sweeteners/mind trick/ohdearImgoingtodiebecauseimeaatingchemicals conspiracy
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No no no, that's not negativity, there are about a million genius fitness experts here who can tell you everything they know is true and they get a little testy if someone has another viewpoint. TRUE SCIENTIFIC THEORY at work here baby. If you REALLY want information, just do some research and like everything else you need to deduce the things that apply to you, your metabolism, your personality, your goals, your nutritional tendencies, etc.0
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No no no, that's not negativity, there are about a million genius fitness experts here who can tell you everything they know is true and they get a little testy if someone has another viewpoint. TRUE SCIENTIFIC THEORY at work here baby. If you REALLY want information, just do some research and like everything else you need to deduce the things that apply to you, your metabolism, your personality, your goals, your nutritional tendencies, etc.
So I guess the approximately 358257256 studies that have been done in the last ~40 years about aspartame that all came out with the same result "It's fine for you in normal amounts, stop pestering us already." is not enough?0 -
deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Jbarnes1210 wrote: »My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.
Just be sure and care for your teeth!
If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?
Well any acidic food is going to have an effect on your teeth. When it hits the even stronger acid in your stomach, the soda is going to change completely.
Also if people would take the time to learn some basic chemistry, maybe they wouldn't scare themselves about dangers that don't exist.
Ok, so what does diet soda become when mixed with stomach acid?
Not trying to start a debate, but this is an angle I don't think has ever been covered. I'm not a scientist so I would like to know.
Well I'm no chemist, but obviously the pH would change, for one thing. It's the acidity of the soda that effects your teeth, not the chemikillz. We eat plenty of other acidic foods with no harmful effects on the body, so the acidity of soda is not going to be an issue for our bodies either.
If you read the link to the aspartame thread I linked to above, he explains the metabolic pathway of aspartame and how it is exactly the same as the pathway the amino acids take when they occur naturally in fruits and other foods.
Like it or not, our bodies are nothing more than chemistry machines. No amount of broscience or naturopathy or fear mongering is going to change the way our bodies work.0 -
It's acidic, which is not fabulous for the teeth. If you have soft enamel or many cavities, you could chew a Tums or something alkaline, or swish mouth out with baking soda.0
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Bottom line for me, hydration is why we drink, soda, diet soda doesn't hydrate, I have sat there before drinking down a 1l sprite only to find in the next 30 mins my thirst hasn't been quenched. As for food, it ruins the taste of my meal, it's all preference, would I give it to my kids no. I feel water is the ultimate choice or 100% juices ( which I know has lots of sugar, so no need to discuss that) are the best choices for them. It all boils down to moderation then, with all the studies and articles published who knows what to believe, maybe instead of reading the article people should find out who or what companies are funding these studies. After all at one point everybody thought smoking was safe.0
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I think this whole debate depends on you. My SO can drink diet soda all day long and lose weight by the boat loads. For me, diet soda can trigger a nasty sweet tooth so I tend to stay away. My mom gets headaches when she doesn't drink here diet cola's (though I think that might be the caffeine). I think that this whole process, and weight loss is a process, is different for each person and the key is finding what things work for you, be it diet soda or not.
As for being "unhealthy" and rotting out your teeth.... even good foods can rot your teeth out if you don't care for your teeth, so there you go.
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... that said, I do indulge in diet root beer a few times a week, but my teeth are super strong (and I hope they stay that way.)0
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The carbonation just turns to water and carbon dioxide. It's what makes you burp. There's also phosphorous acid in there. Sounds scary, right? According to wiki though, it's a pretty normal thing in your body, it's important in your metabolism and it's an ingredient in your dna. It's also the ingredient that makes rust dissolve. Funny how only the last part seems to get mentioned.Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Jbarnes1210 wrote: »My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.
Just be sure and care for your teeth!
If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?
Well any acidic food is going to have an effect on your teeth. When it hits the even stronger acid in your stomach, the soda is going to change completely.
Also if people would take the time to learn some basic chemistry, maybe they wouldn't scare themselves about dangers that don't exist.
Ok, so what does diet soda become when mixed with stomach acid?
Not trying to start a debate, but this is an angle I don't think has ever been covered. I'm not a scientist so I would like to know.
Well I'm no chemist, but obviously the pH would change, for one thing. It's the acidity of the soda that effects your teeth, not the chemikillz. We eat plenty of other acidic foods with no harmful effects on the body, so the acidity of soda is not going to be an issue for our bodies either.
If you read the link to the aspartame thread I linked to above, he explains the metabolic pathway of aspartame and how it is exactly the same as the pathway the amino acids take when they occur naturally in fruits and other foods.
Like it or not, our bodies are nothing more than chemistry machines. No amount of broscience or naturopathy or fear mongering is going to change the way our bodies work.
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deviboy1592 wrote: »Bottom line for me, hydration is why we drink, soda, diet soda doesn't hydrate, . . .
Is there a Bingo square for moving the goal posts?
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deviboy1592 wrote: »Bottom line for me, hydration is why we drink, soda, diet soda doesn't hydrate, I have sat there before drinking down a 1l sprite only to find in the next 30 mins my thirst hasn't been quenched. As for food, it ruins the taste of my meal, it's all preference, would I give it to my kids no. I feel water is the ultimate choice or 100% juices ( which I know has lots of sugar, so no need to discuss that) are the best choices for them. It all boils down to moderation then, with all the studies and articles published who knows what to believe, maybe instead of reading the article people should find out who or what companies are funding these studies. After all at one point everybody thought smoking was safe.
Well, soda is about 90% water, so drinking a 12 oz soda will hydrate you just as much as drinking ~10 oz of water. If it's diet it will have hardly any calories, if it's not diet it will have calories.
The other stuff in the soda doesn't really have an effect on hydration. If I drank a 10 oz glass of water and then ingested a packet of soda ingredients immediately after, would the water that I drank not hydrate me?
Also comparing drinking diet soda to smoking is not a good argument. Cigarettes contain known carginogens and absorption of chemicals in the lungs is completely different than metabolism through digestion.0 -
tedboosalis7 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Bad for you? Oh, probably. Most have Aspartame, which has quite a bad reputation.
Nothing wrong with aspartame: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
It has a bad rap for no real reason.
Enjoy
*Edit to add that it can be a migraine trigger for some (just like many things), so if that's the case with you, then avoid it. Or if you have PKU.
Aspartame is scary - it's the main reason why virtually all fitness industry protein powders use sucralose, which is now developing a reputation for being scary as well.
http://aspartame.mercola.com/
Last people I want to listen to are government bodies in bed with Corporate America. They have been wrong before, they will be wrong again (in fact, they are wrong on this topic).
Better off just using refined sugar than using some artificial sweetener derivative developed from the same people who developed Agent Orange.
No thanks.
argumentum ad metum, lol.
Gotta be careful with dat der Agent Orange in yar protein powder smoothie.
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stevencloser wrote: »
The carbonation just turns to water and carbon dioxide. It's what makes you burp. There's also phosphorous acid in there. Sounds scary, right? According to wiki though, it's a pretty normal thing in your body, it's important in your metabolism and it's an ingredient in your dna. It's also the ingredient that makes rust dissolve. Funny how only the last part seems to get mentioned.Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Jbarnes1210 wrote: »My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.
Just be sure and care for your teeth!
If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?
Well any acidic food is going to have an effect on your teeth. When it hits the even stronger acid in your stomach, the soda is going to change completely.
Also if people would take the time to learn some basic chemistry, maybe they wouldn't scare themselves about dangers that don't exist.
Ok, so what does diet soda become when mixed with stomach acid?
Not trying to start a debate, but this is an angle I don't think has ever been covered. I'm not a scientist so I would like to know.
Well I'm no chemist, but obviously the pH would change, for one thing. It's the acidity of the soda that effects your teeth, not the chemikillz. We eat plenty of other acidic foods with no harmful effects on the body, so the acidity of soda is not going to be an issue for our bodies either.
If you read the link to the aspartame thread I linked to above, he explains the metabolic pathway of aspartame and how it is exactly the same as the pathway the amino acids take when they occur naturally in fruits and other foods.
Like it or not, our bodies are nothing more than chemistry machines. No amount of broscience or naturopathy or fear mongering is going to change the way our bodies work.
I know, so scary!
I don't understand the people who compare it to cleaning chemicals, etc. I use vinegar to clean my countertops, my coffee maker, and my microwave; I use lemons to clean my garbage disposal; I use baking soda to remove yellow nail polish stains from my nails.
Guess I should never eat vinaigrette, lemon cake, or homemade cookies ever again.0 -
Jbarnes1210 wrote: »My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
I couldn't have lost weight without them, and I still drink them, but try to make sure you go heavier on waters, teas, and coffees if you can.
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By skimming through responses, I'm sure you can tell by now that nobody really knows. Just keep doing it until it stops working for you. I personally had a slight addiction to diet Mt. Dew after 6 years off the soda wagon. Thankfully, I've eliminated that problem... Sort of. I still need caffeine. I just get it in the form of teas and coffee.0
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I agree with the above. Different people react to sugar substitutes like aspartame differently. For some people, the body reacts to it much like regular sugar, for others it makes them crave more food/sugar. For me, the carbonation actually helps make me feel fuller!
I usually try to limit myself to just two cans a day, to make sure I drink enough of other things like water or tea. 0 -
deviboy1592 wrote: »maybe instead of reading the article people should find out who or what companies are funding these studies. After all at one point everybody thought smoking was safe.
instead of reading? You mean the non-conflict statement at the end of real research? On the articles one reads? /SMH
And the whole if smoking then... argument is a huge logical failure. Might as well not wash with soap, you know, because smoking was once thought safe.
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Greeneyedgrl_24 wrote: »It wont.
Diet Pepsi is my world. Lost all my weight while drinking it. Don't believe everything you hear.
Diet Pepsi is like my crack. I try to stay away from it but it's really addictive (to me anyway)0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »
The carbonation just turns to water and carbon dioxide. It's what makes you burp. There's also phosphorous acid in there. Sounds scary, right? According to wiki though, it's a pretty normal thing in your body, it's important in your metabolism and it's an ingredient in your dna. It's also the ingredient that makes rust dissolve. Funny how only the last part seems to get mentioned.Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »deviboy1592 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Jbarnes1210 wrote: »My name is jessica , and I'm addicted to diet pop! I'm trying to give up, it has 0 calories/carbs... So why do I keep hearing it will,prevent weight loss????
It will not prevent weight loss, as the calories are negligible. If you enjoy it and it helps you meet your goals, definitely keep drinking it.
Just be sure and care for your teeth!
If you have to take care of one of the hardest parts of your body (teeth), I can't even imagine what it's doing to your soft organs inside your body?
Well any acidic food is going to have an effect on your teeth. When it hits the even stronger acid in your stomach, the soda is going to change completely.
Also if people would take the time to learn some basic chemistry, maybe they wouldn't scare themselves about dangers that don't exist.
Ok, so what does diet soda become when mixed with stomach acid?
Not trying to start a debate, but this is an angle I don't think has ever been covered. I'm not a scientist so I would like to know.
Well I'm no chemist, but obviously the pH would change, for one thing. It's the acidity of the soda that effects your teeth, not the chemikillz. We eat plenty of other acidic foods with no harmful effects on the body, so the acidity of soda is not going to be an issue for our bodies either.
If you read the link to the aspartame thread I linked to above, he explains the metabolic pathway of aspartame and how it is exactly the same as the pathway the amino acids take when they occur naturally in fruits and other foods.
Like it or not, our bodies are nothing more than chemistry machines. No amount of broscience or naturopathy or fear mongering is going to change the way our bodies work.
I know, so scary!
I don't understand the people who compare it to cleaning chemicals, etc. I use vinegar to clean my countertops, my coffee maker, and my microwave; I use lemons to clean my garbage disposal; I use baking soda to remove yellow nail polish stains from my nails.
Guess I should never eat vinaigrette, lemon cake, or homemade cookies ever again.
Oh, I forgot another dangerous acid in many sodas. Ascorbic Acid. Commonly known as Vitamin C.0 -
Wow my first post (now my last) - as I find too much negativity here. That's too bad - you should be nurturing a supportive open environment here, rather than being defensive, critical and immature (laughing, really?) and let people make their own decisions. If something works for you - great - if not then find what does. There wouldn't be thousands of diets if one way worked for everyone. If you want to state what worked or didn't work for you fine - but there's certainly a better way to do that than what I am seeing here.
Jessica asked a question, I provided an answer. She asked why she hears that drinking pop will prevent weight loss. Keep in mind everyone is different and there are long term effects to take into consideration. The incidence of metabolic syndrome is a fact - and you can have it and be thin, so be careful not to fall off the diet wagon - the weight gain will be much worse.
For all of you ingesting chemicals and being so defensive - you do whatever you want. But it doesn't take a genius to know that drinking water is better than drinking pop - or soda or whatever you call it where you live - that is made with chemicals!
Multiple different scientific studies are cited in the articles below, from several credible resources.
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/06/19/artificial-sweeteners-could-be-sabotaging-your-diet/
http://www.webmd.com/diet/20040630/artificial-sweeteners-damage-diet-efforts?page=1
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/04/saccharin-aspartame-dangers.aspx
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
http://chriskresser.com/the-unbiased-truth-about-artificial-sweeteners
http://time.com/3380013/artificial-sweeteners-obesity/
I agree.
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After reading this post last night I had to go out and get some diet soda because I was craving it so much.
One of my New Years resolutions was to give it up and see if my body acted any differently. I've honestly gained a few pounds since New Years but I can't tell if there's a correlation at all.0 -
It does prevent weight loss because of the chemical artificial sweeteners such as sucralose, acesulfame-K (potassium), saccharin and aspartame. They have zero calories, but the chemicals and the sweet taste with zero calories doesn't trick the brain that you are eating sugar and instead stimulates your appetite so you eat more to make up for the calorie deficit the brain is expecting. It causes you to gain more weight and proportionately more fat and in turn slows your metabolism.
I would suggest a few things. You can put lemon or cucumber slices in your water to flavor it. You an also try sparkling mineral water (Perrier has flavored waters) or using plain and mixing with a little bit of 100% cranberry juice with a touch of stevia. The more you can fall in love with regular water - the better your weight loss.
You are repeating misinformation. Please stop.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »'Negativity' means that someone has become a little bit butthurt because no one bought their broscience and then pointed out why it was, in fact, broscience.
We are so mean.0
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