Uh oh - bad weekend ahead.
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Also, please post peer reviewed studies that pizza contains nutrients that make you gain weight.katiejanecollins wrote: »
Maybe you should do a little more research.katiejanecollins wrote: »
What is unhealthy about them?katiejanecollins wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
You also seem to think pizza and popcorn are "unhealthy".
They are classed as unhealthy, admittedly they don't have to be as you can limit the portions/toppings, but if you go around saying 'look at me I'm so healthy with my pizza and popcorn' - you'd get some funny looks.
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
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Er - maybe you should too. And stop posting unnecessary comments whilst you're at it! Sick of people being negative on here.
Tldr; it's not the food it's the qty and overall context that matters. But by all means, keep making silly statements and expect questions about them.0 -
I don't think my comments are unnecessary. I'm asking you to explain your view, which I happen to disagree with. Disagreeing doesn't mean negative. Also, if you cannot handle comments on a public forum about a topic you posted, then perhaps your topic was....unnecessary?katiejanecollins wrote: »
Maybe you should do a little more research.katiejanecollins wrote: »
What is unhealthy about them?katiejanecollins wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
You also seem to think pizza and popcorn are "unhealthy".
They are classed as unhealthy, admittedly they don't have to be as you can limit the portions/toppings, but if you go around saying 'look at me I'm so healthy with my pizza and popcorn' - you'd get some funny looks.
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
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Er - maybe you should too. And stop posting unnecessary comments whilst you're at it! Sick of people being negative on here.
Well if you disagree with my view, fine, leave it at that and stop accusing me of being incorrect for calling fatty foods unhealthy - which they are.0 -
Some of these replies are ridiculous. OP, stuff your face and enjoy your weekend! You look like you deserve it
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natboosh69 wrote: »Some of these replies are ridiculous. OP, stuff your face and enjoy your weekend! You look like you deserve it
Thanks that's nice of you Have a great weekend yourself! 0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »Jesus, I've never come across a forum full of such negative and unfriendly replies. Why does everything people say on here get misjudged in 100,000 different ways!?
Because this is the internet. Although you may be using one tone to describe how you feel or what you're thinking or anything else, in the end the message is still only in text form and someone else may read it in an entirely different tone.
Not trying to be snarky at all. Originally came in with the intention of giving friendly advice... until I saw the madness. Lol.
I hope you have a fun weekend, OP. 0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.0 -
Just enjoy yourself this weekend and get back on track Monday.0
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janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
You also seem to think pizza and popcorn are "unhealthy".
They are classed as unhealthy, admittedly they don't have to be as you can limit the portions/toppings, but if you go around saying 'look at me I'm so healthy with my pizza and popcorn' - you'd get some funny looks.
You know, I am British like you are OP and I agree with you, foods like that are not classed as healthy here. I think maybe there's a difference between views in the US and UK to food.
I don't like eating Mcondalds food for example, but even if I did, I'd be put off by the majority of people who eat in there, at least where I live. The kind of people in McDo here are the benefits mums who stand around outside with their toddlers in pushchairs, smoking and swearing. I'm sure it's not the same in all towns though.
I think pizza can be healthy, but it depends where it's from. Dominos tends to be really greasy, but if you had proper Italian pizza, it'd be totally different with a thin base, proper tomato sauce, and minimal toppings, not loaded with about 5 different types of meat.
Popcorn is also fine if you don't have loads of it, but it's not really got anything of nutritional value in it. However, cinema portions of popcorn tend to be huge.0 -
DawnieB1977 wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
You also seem to think pizza and popcorn are "unhealthy".
They are classed as unhealthy, admittedly they don't have to be as you can limit the portions/toppings, but if you go around saying 'look at me I'm so healthy with my pizza and popcorn' - you'd get some funny looks.
You know, I am British like you are OP and I agree with you, foods like that are not classed as healthy here. I think maybe there's a difference between views in the US and UK to food.
I don't like eating Mcondalds food for example, but even if I did, I'd be put off by the majority of people who eat in there, at least where I live. The kind of people in McDo here are the benefits mums who stand around outside with their toddlers in pushchairs, smoking and swearing. I'm sure it's not the same in all towns though.
I think pizza can be healthy, but it depends where it's from. Dominos tends to be really greasy, but if you had proper Italian pizza, it'd be totally different with a thin base, proper tomato sauce, and minimal toppings, not loaded with about 5 different types of meat.
Popcorn is also fine if you don't have loads of it, but it's not really got anything of nutritional value in it. However, cinema portions of popcorn tend to be huge.
THIS.
That is exactly what I'm saying. I've literally just asked people in my office how they view pizza and they said 'unhealthy' - clearly a UK thing then. It can be made healthy, but as I said at the beginning of the post it's a takeaway one which IS NOT at all healthy ha ha. And Cineworld popcorn is so bad for you, I can't image it's any better in the US!0 -
I think people get way too hung up on the word 'healthy'. Seriously... who cares. Some foods are healthier than others, maybe we can agree on that? I eat pizza and cookies and ice cream, but I'm not going to pretend that cookies are 'healthy' either.0
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katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.
I meant everything I wrote, otherwise I wouldn't of written it. You're just reading it wrong.0 -
the problem people are having is your saying it's unhealthy because you eat too much of it.....eat too much of anything will have the same effect. Because pizza is calorie dense you've deemed it unhealthy, which if you understood nutrition a little more or the people in your office, you would see that it's the overeating that is unhealthy, not a particular food or the calories associated with that food.....of course this mindset is common and will always be challenged and who knows maybe the light will come on one day for some people.katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.
I meant everything I wrote, otherwise I wouldn't of written it. You're just reading it wrong.
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katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.
I meant everything I wrote, otherwise I wouldn't of written it. You're just reading it wrong.
Then I reiterate the fact that nutrients don't make you gain weight. Excess calories make you gain weight.0 -
Enjoy your weekend. I would caution you, however, that you probably can't eat as much pizza as you used to. I say this because I went out for a birthday meal and tried to eat as much food as I did in the past and then afterward felt like crap because I didn't listen to my body telling me it was full. And I don't mean psychologically felt like crap, I mean I was so bloated and my stomach hurt for hours! So stuff your face and enjoy it, but listen to your body when it tells you it's full!!0
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janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.
I meant everything I wrote, otherwise I wouldn't of written it. You're just reading it wrong.
Then I reiterate the fact that nutrients don't make you gain weight. Excess calories make you gain weight.
Yeah - something of which pizza contains.0 -
Meh. A few pints with a friend in town this afternoon. Wife's birthday tomorrow. Also St. Patrick's Day. Brides of March (SF pub crawl event Sunday). I see your challenging weekend and raise you one.
I fall on the side of the ledger that favors enjoying myself, moderating where I can, but not missing out on fun social events, which may include excess calories (particularly from the booze). I don't want to see calorie counting / meeting a calorie goal as my first and most important obligation. You'll have to decide what fits best with your priorities in the grand scheme of things.0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.
I meant everything I wrote, otherwise I wouldn't of written it. You're just reading it wrong.
Then I reiterate the fact that nutrients don't make you gain weight. Excess calories make you gain weight.
Yeah - something of which pizza contains.
How can a food, by itself, contain excess calories?
You can eat excess calories in any food -- fruit, ice cream, brown rice, guacamole, salmon, pizza, oatmeal. Those calories will cause you to lose weight. This has nothing to do with pizza. Any food can cause you to gain weight if it results in excess calories. Pizza doesn't contain excess calories in a way that other "healthy" foods do not.
There is no specific "nutrient" (I'm not sure that word means what you seem to think it does) in pizza that causes weight gain. Fat doesn't cause weight gain. Last night I made an olive oil dressing for my salad -- pouring it all on my salad would, over time and combined with other choices, possibly result in weight gain. However, I chose to use a tablespoon and stayed within my calorie goal for the day. The dressing contained salt. Eating a lot of salt in a day may cause water retention. However, I don't eat meals containing multiple high sodium foods and I choose to drink water often. Sometimes for lunch I have pizza or another food containing carbohydrates -- but I am aware how many calories I am consuming and balance it with the rest of my meals.
Nutrients don't cause weight gain. Fat, salt, and carbohydrates don't cause weight gain. Foods, by themselves, don't contain excess calories. The portions we choose -- combined with the rest of our choices -- do.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.
I meant everything I wrote, otherwise I wouldn't of written it. You're just reading it wrong.
Then I reiterate the fact that nutrients don't make you gain weight. Excess calories make you gain weight.
Yeah - something of which pizza contains.
How can a food, by itself, contain excess calories?
You can eat excess calories in any food -- fruit, ice cream, brown rice, guacamole, salmon, pizza, oatmeal. Those calories will cause you to lose weight. This has nothing to do with pizza. Any food can cause you to gain weight if it results in excess calories. Pizza doesn't contain excess calories in a way that other "healthy" foods do not.
There is no specific "nutrient" (I'm not sure that word means what you seem to think it does) in pizza that causes weight gain. Fat doesn't cause weight gain. Last night I made an olive oil dressing for my salad -- pouring it all on my salad would, over time and combined with other choices, possibly result in weight gain. However, I chose to use a tablespoon and stayed within my calorie goal for the day. The dressing contained salt. Eating a lot of salt in a day may cause water retention. However, I don't eat meals containing multiple high sodium foods and I choose to drink water often. Sometimes for lunch I have pizza or another food containing carbohydrates -- but I am aware how many calories I am consuming and balance it with the rest of my meals.
Nutrients don't cause weight gain. Fat, salt, and carbohydrates don't cause weight gain. Foods, by themselves, don't contain excess calories. The portions we choose -- combined with the rest of our choices -- do.
OH MY GOD I KNOW. STOP COMMENTING. I have said time and time again, it's also down to portion size - but the contents of pizza isn't great for your body when eating a lot. Which I do when I have a takeaway. THAT IS IT. LEAVE ME ALONE.0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »
OH MY GOD I KNOW. STOP COMMENTING. I have said time and time again, it's also down to portion size - but the contents of pizza isn't great for your body when eating a lot. Which I do when I have a takeaway. THAT IS IT. LEAVE ME ALONE.
If you know, then stop insisting the opposite. Nobody is forcing you choose portions that make you personally feel "slobbish" and there is nothing inherently harmful in pizza. And nobody is forcing you to respond and continue the conversation.
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Don't be mad at us because you posted nonsense and were challenged on it. Unless the contents of your pizza are turpentine or cement powder then pizza is perfectly fine in moderation.katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katiejanecollins wrote: »
They contains ingredients with nutrients that make you gain weight/feel slobbish/crave more bad food. It's basic knowledge. If they were good - MFP wouldn't exist and we wouldn't be on here trying to lose weight!
There are no nutrients that "make you gain weight."
There are calories and they are either consumed to excess or they aren't. I am truly sorry that pizza and popcorn make you feel "snobbish," but that is more about you than pizza or popcorn.
Nutrients in pizza include high fat, salt and carbohydrates - not good for the body if you're consuming that many of the above in just one sitting. Read here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-cheese-pizza.html#b
FYI - I said slobbish, not snobbish. There's a difference.
My phone autocorrected to "snobbish." My point still stands: if the presence of fat, salt, and carbohydrates in foods make you feel like a slob, that says much more about you than it does about the food.
I regularly include high fat foods, foods with salt, and carbohydrates in my diet. Those things don't make you gain weight. It's the portion sizes that can cause weight gain. Are you telling me that avocados or olive oil make you feel "slobbish"? Does soy sauce? Does barley or sweet potatoes? Those are foods with high fat, salt, and carbohydrates. You're demonizing certain foods instead of recognizing that you can control how much you eat. Pizza isn't the enemy.
You're twisting what I said. If you look back a little further, I stated that it's bad if you have too much of it (which most people do if it's a takeout, let's be honest). Pizza isn't the enemy, no, but it does make me gain weight if I regularly eat it. Like I've said. Countless times.
Can we drop this now?
I'm going by all I can, which is what you're writing. If you're now writing that you didn't mean it when you wrote that the foods you are planning this eat this weekend have nutrients that make you gain weight, I can accept that. I still recommend that you don't equate a weekend worth of food choices with feeling "slobbish." Feeling that you need to regain health because of weekend of food choices (as you wrote that you would need to do) doesn't seem like a balanced approach to food.
What your saying doesn't even make sense? I don't get why you keep replying - you've made it clear you 'disagree' with me... so leave it!
What doesn't make sense? If you don't mean what you wrote, then I accept that.
I meant everything I wrote, otherwise I wouldn't of written it. You're just reading it wrong.
Then I reiterate the fact that nutrients don't make you gain weight. Excess calories make you gain weight.
Yeah - something of which pizza contains.
How can a food, by itself, contain excess calories?
You can eat excess calories in any food -- fruit, ice cream, brown rice, guacamole, salmon, pizza, oatmeal. Those calories will cause you to lose weight. This has nothing to do with pizza. Any food can cause you to gain weight if it results in excess calories. Pizza doesn't contain excess calories in a way that other "healthy" foods do not.
There is no specific "nutrient" (I'm not sure that word means what you seem to think it does) in pizza that causes weight gain. Fat doesn't cause weight gain. Last night I made an olive oil dressing for my salad -- pouring it all on my salad would, over time and combined with other choices, possibly result in weight gain. However, I chose to use a tablespoon and stayed within my calorie goal for the day. The dressing contained salt. Eating a lot of salt in a day may cause water retention. However, I don't eat meals containing multiple high sodium foods and I choose to drink water often. Sometimes for lunch I have pizza or another food containing carbohydrates -- but I am aware how many calories I am consuming and balance it with the rest of my meals.
Nutrients don't cause weight gain. Fat, salt, and carbohydrates don't cause weight gain. Foods, by themselves, don't contain excess calories. The portions we choose -- combined with the rest of our choices -- do.
OH MY GOD I KNOW. STOP COMMENTING. I have said time and time again, it's also down to portion size - but the contents of pizza isn't great for your body when eating a lot. Which I do when I have a takeaway. THAT IS IT. LEAVE ME ALONE.
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Stop. Commenting.
Enough is enough.0 -
katiejanecollins wrote: »Stop. Commenting.
Enough is enough.
You can have a mod delete your thread. No one is forcing you to respond.
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No one is forcing you to either, yet you are.0
This discussion has been closed.
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