Results with Heavy Lifting and Proper nutrition (No Cardio)
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rangertrav wrote: »For every pound of mucle ypu gain you will burn 50 extra calories a day by doing nothing. So if you do the math gaining 4 pounds of mucle will work out to burning 200 cal the equivalent of a decent little work every day on top of you daily exercise
So by your math, someone like Lou Ferrigno in his prime was burning like... 100lbs of "extra" muscle x 50 = 5,000cals per day just laying around the house?
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Also @SideSteel does not do cardio (other than going for walks) but he may not be a good example as he is a bit fluffy and doesn't even look like he lifts.0
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I use a food scale for meats so I know the correct ounces, everything else I'm using tsp. tbsp. and cups. Would you recommend using a food scale for everything I eat?0
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Also I just started the 1,400 calorie diet, watching macros, and heavy lifting Monday. So I do not know whether I will lose any inches yet (not too concerned about the number on the scale). I was simply looking for any recommendations on improving the plan or whether I should go with my friend suggestions and slave over cardio on a low calorie diet and stop lifting. Your responses are all very helpful I was worried that I would gain inches even at a deficient if I only watch macros, calories, and lift heavy.0
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08robyngreen wrote: »I use a food scale for meats so I know the correct ounces, everything else I'm using tsp. tbsp. and cups. Would you recommend using a food scale for everything I eat?
Scale for everything. Even leveling off my tbsp of peanut butter when weighed is over a tablespoon by grams. 1/2 cup of oatmeal when weighed is over 1/2 cup by grams.0 -
Thank you for that advice I will start using the scale for everything.0
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Also @SideSteel does not do cardio (other than going for walks) but he may not be a good example as he is a bit fluffy and doesn't even look like he lifts.
I agree with this assessment of @SideSteel0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »Also @SideSteel does not do cardio (other than going for walks) but he may not be a good example as he is a bit fluffy and doesn't even look like he lifts.
I agree of this assessment of @SideSteel
LOl I see what you guys are doing there...
"pinging" him...0 -
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08robyngreen wrote: »Thank you for that advice I will start using the scale for everything.
more than likely you were underestimating your calories at 1200 and were really eating more than you thought....0 -
lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Awww...you tagged me!!!
Yup--heavy lifting, good food and plenty of gelato.
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Awww...you tagged me!!!
Yup--heavy lifting, good food and plenty of gelato.
I mean you used to run, which I still can't believe...
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
Awww...you tagged me!!!
Yup--heavy lifting, good food and plenty of gelato.
I mean you used to run, which I still can't believe...
=P
Yeah, but that was before my two bulks/cuts LOL
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Yes I agree I was probably eating more than I thought. I didn't realize it was inaccurate unless the food was weighed.0
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08robyngreen wrote: »Yes I agree I was probably eating more than I thought. I didn't realize it was inaccurate unless the food was weighed.
it makes a pretty big difference....I was reading somewhere that you can be off 20 to 50% when trying to eyeball portions...0 -
OP: how much do you weigh?0
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But hiking, walking the dog, gardening ARE cardio. You can't separate "workout cardio" from your everyday activity cardio - to the body it's the same thing.08robyngreen wrote: »Has anyone had success with lifting heavy weights and following a well balanced nutritional program, but not incorporating cardio. When I say no cardio I mean no cardio in addition to daily activities such as walking the dogs, playing with children, hiking, and gardening.
Looking for some motivation. Please share your success and tips.
Now, as others have said, yes, you *can* have results without additional cardio. I could never do it though. I love high intensity interval training too much, and I'm an avid bicyclist. With some good music on, to me it's just more fun than lifting. The only "lifting" I have done since late January is push-ups 2-3 times a week, steadily increasing in number (started with 150 and now I do between 250 and 300 depending on the day, in sets of course). Most of my workouts are either bicyling (with goals on time and distance) or high-intensity training cardio at the gym. I am starting to see definition on my shoulders and arms and better definition on my chest, and lost about 20 lbs since mid January (goal is about 15-20 lbs more... admittedly I hadn't logged my beginning weight to MFP at the beginning, just left what I put in from a long time ago after which I stopped using it).
Anyway, my point is, you can have the "after burn" effect with either high intensity cardio or heavy lifting. Definition is a matter of lowering body fat. Bulking up you may not be able to do without a rigorous lifting routine.0 -
But hiking, walking the dog, gardening ARE cardio. You can't separate "workout cardio" from your everyday activity cardio - to the body it's the same thing.08robyngreen wrote: »Has anyone had success with lifting heavy weights and following a well balanced nutritional program, but not incorporating cardio. When I say no cardio I mean no cardio in addition to daily activities such as walking the dogs, playing with children, hiking, and gardening.
Looking for some motivation. Please share your success and tips.
Now, as others have said, yes, you *can* have results without additional cardio. I could never do it though. I love high intensity interval training too much, and I'm an avid bicyclist. With some good music on, to me it's just more fun than lifting. The only "lifting" I have done since late January is push-ups 2-3 times a week, steadily increasing in number (started with 150 and now I do between 250 and 300 depending on the day, in sets of course). Most of my workouts are either bicyling (with goals on time and distance) or high-intensity training cardio at the gym. I am starting to see definition on my shoulders and arms and better definition on my chest, and lost about 20 lbs since mid January (goal is about 15-20 lbs more... admittedly I hadn't logged my beginning weight to MFP at the beginning, just left what I put in from a long time ago after which I stopped using it).
Anyway, my point is, you can have the "after burn" effect with either high intensity cardio or heavy lifting. Definition is a matter of lowering body fat. Bulking up you may not be able to do without a rigorous lifting routine.
But she's looking for people who don't do purposeful cardio - like your bike rides.
Yeah, chasing after kids is cardio but it's a daily life activity if you're a parent. If you live in a high elevation, so is hiking. If you have a dog, walking it better be a part of your daily life.
The after burn is going to be better with lifting than cardio
And "bulking up" is only done with a calorie surplus and a progressive lifting routine.0 -
The after burn may be "better" with lifting than with HIIT (or any cardio that's not steady state, really), but only proportionally so. But you also burn more during the workout with high intensity interval endurance training than you do with lifting, so the total math may or may not work the same.lishie_rebooted wrote: »
But hiking, walking the dog, gardening ARE cardio. You can't separate "workout cardio" from your everyday activity cardio - to the body it's the same thing.08robyngreen wrote: »Has anyone had success with lifting heavy weights and following a well balanced nutritional program, but not incorporating cardio. When I say no cardio I mean no cardio in addition to daily activities such as walking the dogs, playing with children, hiking, and gardening.
Looking for some motivation. Please share your success and tips.
Now, as others have said, yes, you *can* have results without additional cardio. I could never do it though. I love high intensity interval training too much, and I'm an avid bicyclist. With some good music on, to me it's just more fun than lifting. The only "lifting" I have done since late January is push-ups 2-3 times a week, steadily increasing in number (started with 150 and now I do between 250 and 300 depending on the day, in sets of course). Most of my workouts are either bicyling (with goals on time and distance) or high-intensity training cardio at the gym. I am starting to see definition on my shoulders and arms and better definition on my chest, and lost about 20 lbs since mid January (goal is about 15-20 lbs more... admittedly I hadn't logged my beginning weight to MFP at the beginning, just left what I put in from a long time ago after which I stopped using it).
Anyway, my point is, you can have the "after burn" effect with either high intensity cardio or heavy lifting. Definition is a matter of lowering body fat. Bulking up you may not be able to do without a rigorous lifting routine.
But she's looking for people who don't do purposeful cardio - like your bike rides.
Yeah, chasing after kids is cardio but it's a daily life activity if you're a parent. If you live in a high elevation, so is hiking. If you have a dog, walking it better be a part of your daily life.
The after burn is going to be better with lifting than cardio
And "bulking up" is only done with a calorie surplus and a progressive lifting routine.
In any case, the point I am trying to make is that no workout program is likely to succeed unless you like it enough to stick to it.0 -
Exactly I don't count hiking and biking and walking the dog toward my cardio as calories that I can eat back because its part of my daily activities. Where I'm from (in a mountainous region) if I'm going for a walk I'm hiking, if I'm hiking I'm typically carrying at least one of my 30lb. toddlers if not both up and down hills, for me its something I do daily that I don't need to track. Its something that comes easily to me because I always do it. I am not concerned about how many calories the exercise burns, I'm concerned whether I can make a hike 6 miles back holding both my children because they want mommy not daddy to carry them but that's something I got used to just through doing it often. To me its not exercise, its not cardio, its life.
Don't get me wrong I know lots of cardio will get me good results but in my experience they are short term results that typically don't last. I have done workouts like Insanity and saw great results but the minute I stop all that cardio I gain the weight right back either way its not a sustainable way for me to live long term because I don't like structured cardio. Plus I really don't have time to step away from my kids and do cardio for an hour a day. To me lifting is something that I can enjoy while my children are with me, heck my little one are my biggest fans while I'm lifting. Ever do push ups and planks with 2 toddlers both laying on you and telling you to keep going? Or listened to your 4 year old say you can add one more weight to that when your maxed out? Like I said my biggest fans and they enjoy watching and participating in my workouts when I'm lifting. For me weight training is what allows me to spend time with my family and workout.
Either way I separate exercise cardio from daily activity even if someone else considers it cardio.
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