Dr. Oz

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I think he fell off the doctor wagon (is he even a doctor!?!) and onto the "I like magic pills because people throw money at me when I promote them" wagon

    he is a cardiologist....
  • beckyml1980
    beckyml1980 Posts: 126 Member
    Serah87 wrote: »
    He is a quack!!

    I second this! Quack Quack!
  • scootertrog
    scootertrog Posts: 4 Member
    Last time I tried one of his recommended herbal supplements I was crapping ginormus rock hard logs that would rip me open in agony. Yeah, more like "Wizard of Oz", he's a fake.
  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    Belle8312 wrote: »
    BZAH10 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    this may be on of the few threads where we get 100% agreement ...

    dr oz is a quack

    That's what I was thinking! How he has managed to stay on TV every day for so long is beyond me. Actually, makes me sad for society that so many people believe and support him.

    Oprah endorses him. "You get a quack, you get a quack, YOU ALL GET A QUACK!!!"

    :smiley:

    haahah so good.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    I use to like him :*:o
  • blink1021
    blink1021 Posts: 1,115 Member
    Its a t.v. show and if people try what he discusses on his shows without talking to their medical professional than whose fault is that? He is a doctor but he is not everyones personal physician. I have only watched a few of his shows and I have never seen him endorse a weight loss pill. I have seen him bring people on who have successfully lost weight to talk about how they have done it. Again I have only watched a few shows. You can troll the internet and see just about anybody's face on a weight loss product whether they give their permission or not. Again these shows are not a diagnosis and people are idiots if they try anything without their doctors ok. I do not add a supplement without talking to my doctor.

    When everyone gets all fired up about Dr. Oz I just have to laugh its a show if its not your thing than don't watch. If people choose to believe it than that's their choice because if it wasn't him it would be someone else.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    Well, there's always one.
  • SconnieCat
    SconnieCat Posts: 770 Member
    Well, there's always one.

    Did someone just white knight Dr. Oz? :confused:
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I think he fell off the doctor wagon (is he even a doctor!?!) and onto the "I like magic pills because people throw money at me when I promote them" wagon

    he is a cardiologist....

    Yeah, and the only reason I'd put a footnote on the "Quack" comments is that he was apparently an exceptionally good cardiac surgeon and clinician.

    Notice that that means he was good at advising, treating, and operating on heart patients. None of which are part of what he is doing now. What he is doing now is shilling snake oil and cashing checks.

    He's also apparently exceptionally good at that.

    But, in terms of nutritional and weight loss advice? Oh, yeah. Money grubbing liar liar pants on fire.
  • Sugarbeat
    Sugarbeat Posts: 824 Member
    Quack. Plus he's annoying.
  • BigLifter10
    BigLifter10 Posts: 1,153 Member
    If I spent time trying every recommended (or under consideration) pill/potion/addition, I would get nothing done each day. I don't watch him at all anymore (would occasionally do that when I'd have an afternoon off).
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    blink1021 wrote: »
    Its a t.v. show and if people try what he discusses on his shows without talking to their medical professional than whose fault is that? He is a doctor but he is not everyones personal physician. I have only watched a few of his shows and I have never seen him endorse a weight loss pill. I have seen him bring people on who have successfully lost weight to talk about how they have done it. Again I have only watched a few shows. You can troll the internet and see just about anybody's face on a weight loss product whether they give their permission or not. Again these shows are not a diagnosis and people are idiots if they try anything without their doctors ok. I do not add a supplement without talking to my doctor.

    When everyone gets all fired up about Dr. Oz I just have to laugh its a show if its not your thing than don't watch. If people choose to believe it than that's their choice because if it wasn't him it would be someone else.

    Just thought I'd point out:
    http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/06/17/us-senate-panel-scolds-tvs-dr-oz-over-di?videoId=316457784

    Or just search Dr. Oz called out by senate
  • peter56765
    peter56765 Posts: 352 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I think he fell off the doctor wagon (is he even a doctor!?!) and onto the "I like magic pills because people throw money at me when I promote them" wagon

    he is a cardiologist....

    a cardiothoracic surgeon actually, not a cardiologist. He's the guy with the knife in the operating room, not the guy reading your EKG and blood work and proscribing you pills.
  • donjtomasco
    donjtomasco Posts: 790 Member
    I think he and Dr Phil were separated at birth. Both are sell outs. Would not be surprised if both don't run for a political office.
  • SconnieCat
    SconnieCat Posts: 770 Member
    peter56765 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I think he fell off the doctor wagon (is he even a doctor!?!) and onto the "I like magic pills because people throw money at me when I promote them" wagon

    he is a cardiologist....

    a cardiothoracic surgeon actually, not a cardiologist. He's the guy with the knife in the operating room, not the guy reading your EKG and blood work and proscribing you pills.

    Another famous cardiothoracic surgeon...

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  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    peter56765 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I think he fell off the doctor wagon (is he even a doctor!?!) and onto the "I like magic pills because people throw money at me when I promote them" wagon

    he is a cardiologist....

    a cardiothoracic surgeon actually, not a cardiologist. He's the guy with the knife in the operating room, not the guy reading your EKG and blood work and proscribing you pills.

    He did do some patient consults, though. My n=1 anecdata is from a friend's mum who was one of his patients. She saw him as a consult for potential surgery and he ended up helping her find some non-surgical options. She said he was the first specialist she'd seen who'd actually taken the time to listen and discuss with her all of her options in a comprehensive and thorough manner. Even decades later, she'll note that he was one of the best doctors she's ever seen as a patient.

    Of course, these days, she also shakes her head sadly when he comes on the TV and mutters "what a waste."

    Of course, my friend's mum's experience doesn't contradict claims of his televised tomfoolery -- it supports it. He was a decent clinician with a charming personality and excellent bedside manner...which makes his current shenanigans all the more reprehensible, IMHO. People who are prone to believing a telegenic person end up liking and trusting him, and he's selling nothing but snake oil.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    blink1021 wrote: »
    Its a t.v. show and if people try what he discusses on his shows without talking to their medical professional than whose fault is that? He is a doctor but he is not everyones personal physician. I have only watched a few of his shows and I have never seen him endorse a weight loss pill. I have seen him bring people on who have successfully lost weight to talk about how they have done it. Again I have only watched a few shows. You can troll the internet and see just about anybody's face on a weight loss product whether they give their permission or not. Again these shows are not a diagnosis and people are idiots if they try anything without their doctors ok. I do not add a supplement without talking to my doctor.

    When everyone gets all fired up about Dr. Oz I just have to laugh its a show if its not your thing than don't watch. If people choose to believe it than that's their choice because if it wasn't him it would be someone else.

    I don't but it doesn't mean I don't have to see his crap every where...cripes I can't even go to my sisters without hearing "Dr Oz said..." and watch her down green coffee bean extract....

    He was called out by the senate on his "tactics" and what he endorses etc...he needs to go back to the operating room and spend less time in the make-up chair.

  • didda1
    didda1 Posts: 71 Member
    I have strong opinions on Oz.
    I feel he is much worse than a quack. He is a liar, a fraud, a charlatan, and spouts anti-science bullphoey. He's part of what is making our society terrified of 'chemicals' and GMOs.
    I kind of loathe him.
  • runner475
    runner475 Posts: 1,236 Member
    Belle8312 wrote: »
    BZAH10 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    this may be on of the few threads where we get 100% agreement ...

    dr oz is a quack

    That's what I was thinking! How he has managed to stay on TV every day for so long is beyond me. Actually, makes me sad for society that so many people believe and support him.

    Oprah endorses him. "You get a quack, you get a quack, YOU ALL GET A QUACK!!!"

    :smiley:

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  • beemerphile1
    beemerphile1 Posts: 1,710 Member
    I wouldn't call a highly educated and well respected doctor a quack and I'm not even certain of the definition. I think it is rude and disrespectful to do so.

    My opinion of his show has deteriorated since the early years. In the beginning it was great that he gave air time to some of the less than mainstream doctors and their opinions about health. Dr. Oz didn't necessarily endorse them but he did give them face time in front of the camera. The public could decide for themselves.

    He also discussed nutrition in practical and realistic ways. A licensed medical doctor only has two options in treatment, prescribe pharmaceuticals or do surgery. Dr. Oz showed many people that there is another tack. We are what we eat, and by modifying what we eat, we can modify our health.

    Now it seems like he has slid to where all he does is offer the quick fixes that the American public wants. The public doesn't want to hear that it will take them a year or more to lose weight and regain their health, they want someone to tell them they can do it in two weeks.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    Should lose definately lose his liccense to practice medicine. Perhaps some jail time?
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    I wouldn't call a highly educated and well respected doctor a quack and I'm not even certain of the definition. I think it is rude and disrespectful to do so.

    My opinion of his show has deteriorated since the early years. In the beginning it was great that he gave air time to some of the less than mainstream doctors and their opinions about health. Dr. Oz didn't necessarily endorse them but he did give them face time in front of the camera. The public could decide for themselves.

    He also discussed nutrition in practical and realistic ways. A licensed medical doctor only has two options in treatment, prescribe pharmaceuticals or do surgery. Dr. Oz showed many people that there is another tack. We are what we eat, and by modifying what we eat, we can modify our health.

    Now it seems like he has slid to where all he does is offer the quick fixes that the American public wants. The public doesn't want to hear that it will take them a year or more to lose weight and regain their health, they want someone to tell them they can do it in two weeks.

    You're right. Let's refer to him as a prostitute instead.

    Oh and by giving these goofy things time in front of the camera he is endorsing them.
  • BABetter1
    BABetter1 Posts: 618 Member
    Corporate shill!
  • PeachyPlum
    PeachyPlum Posts: 1,243 Member

    Just thought I'd point out:
    http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/06/17/us-senate-panel-scolds-tvs-dr-oz-over-di?videoId=316457784

    Or just search Dr. Oz called out by senate

    Hmmm... that's an endorsement, though, amirite?

    I don't know who this guy is, actually, but I've heard some really stupid ish come out of people's mouths following the words "Well, Dr. Oz says..." so I have to assume he's a real quack.
  • Bellodesiderare
    Bellodesiderare Posts: 278 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    dr oz = brilliant salesman/charlatan and total quack ....

    ^^ Word.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    But don't you all like it when he talks about poop?!!!

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  • peter56765
    peter56765 Posts: 352 Member
    My opinion of his show has deteriorated since the early years. In the beginning it was great that he gave air time to some of the less than mainstream doctors and their opinions about health. Dr. Oz didn't necessarily endorse them but he did give them face time in front of the camera. The public could decide for themselves.

    No, I don't accept that rationale. By giving airtime to snake oil salesmen on his show, Dr. Oz legitimizes their quackery. The right thing to do with charlatans is to expose and then marginalize them, not treat them as honored guests and give them a free advertising time to make their pitch to the masses.

    I suspect you are right about his show declining in quality over time. Such is the fate of any show that has to provide an hour's worth of material 5 days a week. There just isn't enough time to put together an informative and well thought out program on a particular subject every single day so Dr. Oz relies on external "content providers" to come on the show to fill time. Of course, most of these people are trying to sell something but with only one day between shows, Dr. Oz and his staff don't have time to check out their claims and to provide well thought out rebuttal and criticism. Therefore, the show is very one sided in favor of the hucksters. His audience aren't given the information they need to "decide for themselves" in an intelligent manner because they mostly only hear one side. So in my mind, his show is more of a disservice to his audience than anything else.


  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    SconnieCat wrote: »
    Well, there's always one.

    Did someone just white knight Dr. Oz? :confused:

    Yeah. Two people, actually.

  • Dragn77
    Dragn77 Posts: 810 Member
    We started emailing and I just thought he had some real good ideas...
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    SconnieCat wrote: »
    Well, there's always one.

    Did someone just white knight Dr. Oz? :confused:

    Apparently. Dr. Oz will sleep well tonight knowing this, I'm sure.

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