My 600 Pound Life?

Lourdesong wrote: »

LAWoman72 wrote: »

The Marla episode was frustrating. She did pull it together at the very end - like the last five minutes of the show, I guess. I don't know how long in actual time that was.

I don't get how people could fight so hard to get the surgery and then refuse to obey the doctor's orders. It's not like he was asking the world - unless he made all sorts of demands on Marla and they edited those out. But I don't think so. I mean he was just asking her to stand up, and it was for her own health, no less. A blood clot can drop a person fast after surgery if there's no motion.

Often with some people who are intending to get gastric surgery, not just those on this show, I feel like that they're really just "buying time" to stay and behave exactly the same, so-to-speak, since surgery is off in the distant future. So that it seems, even if only to themselves, they are doing something about their very serious weight problem up until they actually concretely arrange to get the surgery.

Kind of like people who assert they'll start their diet on Monday. Then Monday comes and well, most know know how that typically goes...

That this is major surgery and a lot of work will be required on their part in order to be successful just doesn't seem to really register at all with many people who say they want to get it.

And I agree that Dr. N has never been one to cuddle and coddle (probably what I like most about him) but I guess he just seemed a bit harsher the past 2 episodes. I didn't have a huge problem with it, or anything. But I guess I didn't feel like these patients deserved it as much as, say, some of his patients in the past who were particularly aggravating.

Those are good points.

ginny92802 wrote: »

When I had my gall bladder removed, the surgeon told me afterwards I had to walk or I might develop a blood clot and die. It made me so nervous I was up all night pacing the hospital halls, to the point the nurses were kind of freaked out that I wasn't resting or sleeping. He made me anxious about it though! Not helpful for sleep in a strange place! I don't understand how many of these people can have this told to them and just do nothing. It's one thing if you are ignorant about something but if a doctor is telling you straight up ... You have a good chance of something happening that will kill you that can be solved by just walking around a little.

Yup. After my C-section, the nurses had me walking...and I am talking IMMEDIATELY after, as in, they kept coming in to check whether I had full feeling back in both my legs yet. As soon as I did, they had me up.

I tried to watch it. Not only was it scary to me, but I feel like it would be an easy place to get to if you didn't get things under control as soon as you admitted that you have a problem with addiction to food. From what I've seen, those folks are surrounded with unsupportive family and friends, and deep psychological issues WAY beyond what would just be weight related. The episode I was watching, the husband was over endulging and rubbing the joy in the 600+ pound wife's face. He like her obese, so he wanted her to stay that way - that is so selfish. No matter how sick you are, or how tired you are of being a certain size, it is really tough to resist temptation when someone is literally waving it in your face and telling you how awesome it is to eat so freely. It actually made me realize that there are several ways and reasons that these people got to the weight that they are at. I feel almost like it's more of a mental illness that needs to be treated, rather than attacking the weight first. Like I said, there seem to be much deeper issues with the people this show document and without curing the cause, you can't cure the symptom.

Yeah I was amazed at how flexible Marla was that is why I was so mad at her when she refused to stand up and was being down right difficult and silly. But I was rolling with the portable fryer!!! Who knew???

Lourdesong wrote: »

ladybarometer wrote: »

I tried to watch it. Not only was it scary to me, but I feel like it would be an easy place to get to if you didn't get things under control as soon as you admitted that you have a problem with addiction to food. From what I've seen, those folks are surrounded with unsupportive family and friends, and deep psychological issues WAY beyond what would just be weight related. The episode I was watching, the husband was over endulging and rubbing the joy in the 600+ pound wife's face. He like her obese, so he wanted her to stay that way - that is so selfish. No matter how sick you are, or how tired you are of being a certain size, it is really tough to resist temptation when someone is literally waving it in your face and telling you how awesome it is to eat so freely. It actually made me realize that there are several ways and reasons that these people got to the weight that they are at. I feel almost like it's more of a mental illness that needs to be treated, rather than attacking the weight first. Like I said, there seem to be much deeper issues with the people this show document and without curing the cause, you can't cure the symptom.

This seems like a chicken/egg problem. And I don't see how anyone could think it's a smart idea to go couch in therapy instead of losing hundreds of pounds that is physically killing a person.

eta: esp when there's not much evidence that therapy has any impact on weight loss being successful.

Basically if someone gained a bunch of weight because they were kidnapped, then the idea is to help them deal with that. Not just hey, here's a smaller stomach, especially since all they have to do is eat a little bit of food all day and could still not lose weight

JaneiR36 wrote: »

Lourdesong wrote: »

ladybarometer wrote: »

I tried to watch it. Not only was it scary to me, but I feel like it would be an easy place to get to if you didn't get things under control as soon as you admitted that you have a problem with addiction to food. From what I've seen, those folks are surrounded with unsupportive family and friends, and deep psychological issues WAY beyond what would just be weight related. The episode I was watching, the husband was over endulging and rubbing the joy in the 600+ pound wife's face. He like her obese, so he wanted her to stay that way - that is so selfish. No matter how sick you are, or how tired you are of being a certain size, it is really tough to resist temptation when someone is literally waving it in your face and telling you how awesome it is to eat so freely. It actually made me realize that there are several ways and reasons that these people got to the weight that they are at. I feel almost like it's more of a mental illness that needs to be treated, rather than attacking the weight first. Like I said, there seem to be much deeper issues with the people this show document and without curing the cause, you can't cure the symptom.

This seems like a chicken/egg problem. And I don't see how anyone could think it's a smart idea to go couch in therapy instead of losing hundreds of pounds that is physically killing a person.

eta: esp when there's not much evidence that therapy has any impact on weight loss being successful.

Basically if someone gained a bunch of weight because they were kidnapped, then the idea is to help them deal with that. Not just hey, here's a smaller stomach, especially since all they have to do is eat a little bit of food all day and could still not lose weight

Exactly. Talk therapy's rather dismal rate (overall) notwithstanding, the fact is that a number of these patients seem to have the surgery, yet still find ways to overeat, and feel they "need" to do it - and can relate that need to "numb" to a specific event, or events. SOMETHING in addition to the surgery needs to be at least tried...or they are going to die.

JaneiR36 wrote: »

Lourdesong wrote: »

ladybarometer wrote: »

I tried to watch it. Not only was it scary to me, but I feel like it would be an easy place to get to if you didn't get things under control as soon as you admitted that you have a problem with addiction to food. From what I've seen, those folks are surrounded with unsupportive family and friends, and deep psychological issues WAY beyond what would just be weight related. The episode I was watching, the husband was over endulging and rubbing the joy in the 600+ pound wife's face. He like her obese, so he wanted her to stay that way - that is so selfish. No matter how sick you are, or how tired you are of being a certain size, it is really tough to resist temptation when someone is literally waving it in your face and telling you how awesome it is to eat so freely. It actually made me realize that there are several ways and reasons that these people got to the weight that they are at. I feel almost like it's more of a mental illness that needs to be treated, rather than attacking the weight first. Like I said, there seem to be much deeper issues with the people this show document and without curing the cause, you can't cure the symptom.

This seems like a chicken/egg problem. And I don't see how anyone could think it's a smart idea to go couch in therapy instead of losing hundreds of pounds that is physically killing a person.

eta: esp when there's not much evidence that therapy has any impact on weight loss being successful.

Basically if someone gained a bunch of weight because they were kidnapped, then the idea is to help them deal with that. Not just hey, here's a smaller stomach, especially since all they have to do is eat a little bit of food all day and could still not lose weight

Wasn't she enormous at that time, as well? Regardless, this poster was talking about Zsalynn's (sp?) story, and all of her problems could very feasibly be due to her weight, not her weight is due to her problems. She reeled in her crappy husband on a fat fetish website and she was part of some fat pride crowd. And she didn't get the strength to kick the fetishist she was married to to the curb until she changed her momentum towards losing pounds instead of piling them on.

As well, I keep seeing this idea that people need to go get their head examined and sort through issues BEFORE they do anything about their weight problem, and that ONLY THEN can they shed pounds. The last thing people need is another reason to fart around, especially one that sort of sounds legitimate like working with mental health professionals. I haven't seen anyone who is so insane yet where their mental health ought to take precedence over their obesity problem. It's stupid.

I was watching the show last week, I forgot the guy's name, but he was talking about his cheat day. It sounded exactly like something I've said, and coming from someone else it sounded like such *kitten*. So I guess that's helped me there.

DebTavares wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, how many calories would you have to eat per day to maintain 600 lbs?

I'd be interested in this too.

I was watching a show one night and the girl was whinging that it was so hard to sit there and watch her family eat take away and how she wanted to eat what they were eating. My initial though was 'please, if you only ate what they ate you wouldn't be so much fatter'.

But thinking about this, it might be that she cannot eat what they are because her metabolism is low. But still it would have to be over 2000cal. It is not that hard to eat under that.

The denial and the enabling get me though.

Just watched Marla. Wow, that woman was so RUDE! When the physiotherapists came and she refused to even look away from her laptop. Rolling her eyes and sighing, with the people who were trying to help her. Sorry, but she was just a spoiled brat and I don't expect that she will be successful at all.