OHP in squat rack?
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Haha love how you all assume I know nothing about gyms...because I work out at home because I can...not out of necessity...we have a gym at work, we have 3 within 10mins of my house and I've been a member of all of them...currently have a membership at one I have yet to activate.
I love the quiet non disruptive workouts I get at home thanks...and when I outgrow my current plates I will just go buy new ones not a big deal they are only 1$ a lb...not like they spoil or get outdated..
Not to mention benching your 9 year old nephew in a conventional gym might be frowned upon.
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thesupremeforce wrote: »OHP? Go for it.
What's been ticking me off lately are the people who will do their DLs in the rack--not using any part of the rack at all.
There are extra bars for a reason. Use them. Elsewhere.
I DL in the power rack all the time, not because I'm obnoxious, but because with the way the weight room is set up, there is nowhere else to deadlift. I imagine that's why everyone DL's there (well, the handful of people I've ever seen deadlift). Hardly anyone seems to squat either (while I'm there, at least), but that's beside the point. It likely explains why they have three flat benches, an incline, and a decline, but only one power rack and a Smith machine.
The moral of my story is that it's silly to assume a One Rule Fits All approach to gym etiquette, as not all gyms are the same (nor are all gym goers).
I wish I could say the same were true for everyone. There is plenty of other places to DL at my gym. I know because I do it. Understandable though if there really is no other place or no other bars to DL with.
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Gym etiquette basically is first come first serve, however that also means taking into consideration how much time you spend using the squat rack. I've seen people stay in a rack for an hour, which isn't good etiquette if it's the only one.
If you're just doing 4 sets or so in about 15 minutes, then you should be fine.
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The moral of my story is that it's silly to assume a One Rule Fits All approach to gym etiquette, as not all gyms are the same (nor are all gym goers).
Yup I agree with this..my gym my rules when I go to a gym I follow their rules.
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Haha love how you all assume I know nothing about gyms...because I work out at home because I can...not out of necessity...we have a gym at work, we have 3 within 10mins of my house and I've been a member of all of them...currently have a membership at one I have yet to activate.
I love the quiet non disruptive workouts I get at home thanks...and when I outgrow my current plates I will just go buy new ones not a big deal they are only 1$ a lb...not like they spoil or get outdated..
Not to mention benching your 9 year old nephew in a conventional gym might be frowned upon.
we so need a like button...he was surprised tho...;)
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The smith machine is for smiths. It's rude to hog it to do shoulders!bennett180790 wrote: »the squat rack is for squats hence the name ... dont be that person who does arm curls and shoulder work out's in the squat rack. especially if there is only one ! use the smith for shoulders that is fine but leave the squat rack for squatters
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Another good strategy is to do exercises you like toward the end of the week because gyms are usually emptier. Mondays and Tuesdays are usually very packed and it's usually starts to taper down in attendance each day till Saturday morning.
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Sounds like most of you are working out in those lousey little 24/7 pretend gyms, with a power rack a smith machine, and 75% of the floor space taken up with cardio equipment. The only time is it cool to use the 1 squat rack or power rack in a gym to OHP is if there is no one around that could potentially want to squat. If olympic lifters don't have to use a squat rack to press heavy weigh over head then the average joe shouldnt have to use it to life the baby weights most people use. Prctically 95% of these places will have a should press machine, or bench, a FID bench and more DB'd than you'll ever be able to life over head. Once you can repeatedly life the 100lb dbs over your head you have earned the right to take up space in the power rack to ohp.
I have to add that the one thing worse than using the power rack for ohp is using it for 315lb shrugs when the same guy cannot squat that weight.0 -
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I'm not going to clean the bar for OHP; I use the racks for it. I've never considered it to be an inappropriate use of the equipment.
People use the power racks for deads and rack pulls and cleans and rows and all kinds of stuff that aren't squats.
I think people hate curling in the squat rack because it's curls, and it's rarely done with enough weight to justify using the rack. If someone was curling 135 in the squat rack I'd mentally high five them.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
The smith machine is for smiths. It's rude to hog it to do shoulders!bennett180790 wrote: »the squat rack is for squats hence the name ... dont be that person who does arm curls and shoulder work out's in the squat rack. especially if there is only one ! use the smith for shoulders that is fine but leave the squat rack for squatters
Exactly, only people named Smith should be using it.
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keithcw_the_first wrote: »I'm not going to clean the bar for OHP; I use the racks for it. I've never considered it to be an inappropriate use of the equipment.
People use the power racks for deads and rack pulls and cleans and rows and all kinds of stuff that aren't squats.
I think people hate curling in the squat rack because it's curls, and it's rarely done with enough weight to justify using the rack. If someone was curling 135 in the squat rack I'd mentally high five them.
if someone was curling a 135 lb barbell Id run as fast I could away from them. Theyd break you into 1000 pieces. Unless they are benching their 135 friend, like some ppl use the squat rack to do apparently
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Time for more lunges.0
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upgradeddiddy wrote: »I can't even believe you are paying money for a gym with just 1 squat rack to begin with but general rule of thumb is the preset barbells are just as heavy as the weight that you are OHP in the squat rack (those barbells that usually go from 20-110 from my experience) then be considerate and stay out of it. If your OHP is higher than that then there really isn't a real safe alternative but to use the squat rack (also if you are over 5'9 don't even bother with smith because your reach is too long to hit the top all of the way.)
The set weight barbells are usually in increments of 10lbs. There is no way that I (or most people who have been lifting for a while) can jump in those increments doing OHPs. With the standard barbell you can add on little micro plates, even.
I use the cage for OHP. Even before I had my home gym, that's where I did them. It's totally a legit use of the squat rack.
If there are people constantly waiting for the squat rack, put in a request for another one.0 -
I think if someone's time were actually so valuable they can't wait to use a squat rack, they would be willing to pay enough for a gym that had enough equipment.0
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Ilikelamps wrote: »wolfsbayne wrote: »
I've seen this in the power cage at my gym. You remove the safety bars, lay the bar on the floor and do deadlifts inside the cage, but not using any part of it. This is for people who apparently don't realize you can take a bar off the rack and go to an empty area of floor and deadlift there without taking up equipment.
I used to deadlift in the power rack, but that was the only rack we had and the only bar we had. If I take the bar out of the power rack, no one really has a need for the power rack right? Power rack with no bar is kind of useless. Also, our gym was pretty small and there was no free space to take the bar. Gym has since moved to a larger location, still only one rack, but we have an extra bar...now I deadlift with that.
power rack with no bar= useless!? Girl, you can yoga, circuit train, eat, and sit in a power cage!!! seesh, don't make the poor power cages feel useless.
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upgradeddiddy wrote: »I can't even believe you are paying money for a gym with just 1 squat rack to begin with but general rule of thumb is the preset barbells are just as heavy as the weight that you are OHP in the squat rack (those barbells that usually go from 20-110 from my experience) then be considerate and stay out of it. If your OHP is higher than that then there really isn't a real safe alternative but to use the squat rack (also if you are over 5'9 don't even bother with smith because your reach is too long to hit the top all of the way.)
There are only 2 gyms in my town (approx 15,000 populated), one gym is £19.99 for students. The other doesn't have a student discount, and it's a LOT more than what I pay. It's a lot nicer, has a few more facilities but I can't really stretch my budget there yet.
Definitely making a switch to it when I have the chance though.0 -
thesupremeforce wrote: »OHP? Go for it.
What's been ticking me off lately are the people who will do their DLs in the rack--not using any part of the rack at all.
There are extra bars for a reason. Use them. Elsewhere.
I DL in the power rack all the time, not because I'm obnoxious, but because with the way the weight room is set up, there is nowhere else to deadlift. I imagine that's why everyone DL's there (well, the handful of people I've ever seen deadlift). Hardly anyone seems to squat either (while I'm there, at least), but that's beside the point. It likely explains why they have three flat benches, an incline, and a decline, but only one power rack and a Smith machine.
The moral of my story is that it's silly to assume a One Rule Fits All approach to gym etiquette, as not all gyms are the same (nor are all gym goers).
I guess I tend to agree with your moral, though it's only tangentially relevant to what I was saying. I was speaking to what's been annoying me about my gym lately. And since we have plenty of room for DLs in the weight area, your example wouldn't apply. One can find exceptions to any rule if they look hard enough for scenario that it doesn't fit.
I suppose I didn't bother thinking about the situation you mention because none of the gyms I've ever been to lacked for space to deadlift outside the rack, though some have lacked for bars. That can also cause a problem.
Some people obviously have a problem with people doing OHPs in the rack, but I don't. I don't expect anyone to necessarily perform a clean in order to execute any particular lift.
I'm also not fond of people doing their t bar rows in the power rack when there are other places available to do so.
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My gym has a couple of power racks...these racks are to be used for power lifts. OHP is a power lift, thus it is perfectly acceptable. Doing curls or resistance band work or whatever aren't power lifts and thus not acceptable and it would be poor form to do these exercises in the rack.0
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upgradeddiddy wrote: »I can't even believe you are paying money for a gym with just 1 squat rack to begin with but general rule of thumb is the preset barbells are just as heavy as the weight that you are OHP in the squat rack (those barbells that usually go from 20-110 from my experience) then be considerate and stay out of it. If your OHP is higher than that then there really isn't a real safe alternative but to use the squat rack (also if you are over 5'9 don't even bother with smith because your reach is too long to hit the top all of the way.)
So, it's safe to drop a 110 lb fixed barbell from over my head? That's not enough weight to do me some decent damage?
Personally, I don't want even a 20 lb weight bouncing off of me on the way down.0 -
Everyone at my gym does everything barbell-related in one of the power racks because there's no room to do it anywhere else. Sometimes I do trap bar deadlifts in the middle of all the benches, because that's got a small footprint, but that's about it.0
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LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »I think if someone's time were actually so valuable they can't wait to use a squat rack, they would be willing to pay enough for a gym that had enough equipment.
Some of us live in tiny apartments.
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I do OHP's in the squat rack, too. I didn't even know it was frowned upon (I'm a lifting noob).0
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Today I Deadlifted in the rack. Rowed in the rack. Squatted in the rack. Lol. Took me 40 minutes or so. It was pretty slow today. If the two racks in my gym are busy I'll ohp with dumbells. But its not often one isn't open.0
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Another good strategy is to do exercises you like toward the end of the week because gyms are usually emptier. Mondays and Tuesdays are usually very packed and it's usually starts to taper down in attendance each day till Saturday morning.
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One of the reasons I love to lift on Friday nights. I can go prior to 6pm and still get in the squat rack (my gym only has two).
I personally can't OHP an Olympic bar yet, but everyone I see doing it does so in the squat rack. I imagine when I get there that's where I'll be doing them too.
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I was talking about gym memberships. There's probably more than one gym in NYC.LaarainNYC wrote: »LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »I think if someone's time were actually so valuable they can't wait to use a squat rack, they would be willing to pay enough for a gym that had enough equipment.
Some of us live in tiny apartments.
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This.I don't consider it inappropriate to do OHP in the squat rack, even if there is only one. I would ask how many sets they have left and let them know you need it to squat.
Granted, my gym has one squat rack and three power cages, but I'd still consider it pretty typical to use either or for doing OHPs. I'm frankly a little surprised that anyone would have an issue with someone wanting to do their OHPs with the hooks close by. That and each cage only has one bar. If I'm using the bar, I might as well use the cage.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
The smith machine is for smiths. It's rude to hog it to do shoulders!bennett180790 wrote: »the squat rack is for squats hence the name ... dont be that person who does arm curls and shoulder work out's in the squat rack. especially if there is only one ! use the smith for shoulders that is fine but leave the squat rack for squatters
Exactly, only people named Smith should be using it.
But does she have a six pack?
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I OHP in the only power rack at my gym (we have no squat racks), I am not even sorry. Everyone else does it and we try to work with each other to work in/not hog space.0
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bennett180790 wrote: »the squat rack is for squats hence the name ... dont be that person who does arm curls and shoulder work out's in the squat rack. especially if there is only one ! use the smith for shoulders that is fine but leave the squat rack for squatters
I squat in the squat rack - I also have done OHPs in a squat rack, and a few times have used it for bench presses when the other benches weren't available. Am I doing it wrong, oh great Exercise Etiquette Guru?0
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