Is not doing cardio worn like a badge on honor for you?
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From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
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It's too hard for most people to do and results don't necessary fit the commercial mode. There is also a misconception than one cannot build muscle from cardio, it just look different; whether that is appealing is a different matter.
Could you explain what you mean by the part in bold? Are you saying that cardio is too hard for most people? And what commercial mode? I don't know if it's just me* but I do not understand what you are saying.
* I had tea instead of coffee this morning and now think that coffee-delivered caffeine > tea-delivered caffeine.
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From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.0 -
From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.
Lifting improves VO2max.0 -
Lord no. Good cardiovascular health is of the utmost importance.
Does that mean the elliptical at the gym? Not necessarily. But it is VERY important. Not just for the number on the scale, not just for looking good naked and in the mirror.0 -
From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
I despise flossing. I floss. I recommend that others floss.0 -
From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.
Why is it good for you?0 -
From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.
Lifting improves VO2max.
I'm sure it does. But I'm also sure that the adaptations from lifting are not the same as those from running which are not the same as those from swimming which are not the same as those from >>insert exercise here<<.
My only point was that not enjoying something is not sufficient reason to dissuade others from doing it.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
I despise flossing. I floss. I recommend that others floss.
Will flossing help with my gains?
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I pretty much hate doing all of it lol. But I hate it when I DON'T do it. I am a cardio person more than a lifting person. But that's only because i'm scared to death to try and start lifting. One day though...I WILL!0
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From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.
I agree 100% cardio is the best thing for heart healthy and it has awesome benefits. It's the best gift given to mankind *** <~~~~ being biased ***
However ...
The difference is if someone doesn't like going to dentist and everytime anyone talks about going to dentist if they going to say "I don't like dentist and his chair and I'll not recommend it. Well brush your teeth twice and floss and hope nothing happens in long run". I think that's fair enough.
People whom they are giving advice to should know better. Don't you think.
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My two cents (theory only)... I'd say TIME. If you get the results you want doing weights you will more than likely spend a great deal of your workout time doing exactly that and vice versa. Therefore, I get the results I want doing mainly cardio; so I spend the majority of my workout time doing cardio and I squeeze in weights when I can (not as often as I'd like since I know I need to balance both). So if I spend 75 min on elliptical trainer and take a 3 mi run on the treadmill - I'm done, not only am I physically tired, I'm tired of being inside the gym and I have no more time a 2 hr workout is plenty. So my theory is we spend the most time doing what we like. Before anyone says I should do strength training before my cardio - I know that and you can refer to my previous sentence.0
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Can I just get my cardio from sex, and call it good?0
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From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.
Lifting improves VO2max.
I'm sure it does. But I'm also sure that the adaptations from lifting are not the same as those from running which are not the same as those from swimming which are not the same as those from >>insert exercise here<<.
And? What else do I need from running or swimming or >>insert exercise here<< that I can't get from lifting?
Just because you don't enjoy ballet doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.0 -
From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.
Lifting improves VO2max.
I'm sure it does. But I'm also sure that the adaptations from lifting are not the same as those from running which are not the same as those from swimming which are not the same as those from >>insert exercise here<<.
My only point was that not enjoying something is not sufficient reason to dissuade others from doing it.
And there you go....
So then what form of cardio should one do?
People don't need to do cardio if they don't want to.....
If they like it, then go ahead. If not, then why do it?
If my heart can be strong and healthy from lifting, then I will do that......
Like you said, adaptation for whatever your goal is.
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It's too hard for most people to do and results don't necessary fit the commercial mode. There is also a misconception than one cannot build muscle from cardio, it just look different; whether that is appealing is a different matter.
If you are referring to cardio being too hard for most people to do, then I would argue that you could also say the same thing about lifting.
It is unlikely that one would build muscle from doing cardio exclusively; it IS likely that they would shed the fat that is on top of any existing muscle, making it much more obvious.
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slideaway1 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
I despise flossing. I floss. I recommend that others floss.
Will flossing help with my gains?
Yes!!! There are muscles in your mouth; they will see the gain.
Don't forget their CICO.0 -
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I'm a man and I don't do or avoid exercises based on whether I think they are "manly." I wouldn't do any of the above because 1-they sound boring as hell and B-why would I want to be around other people?
This, I think, is why you see a lot more women than men in boot camp classes, Hi-Lo classes, cardio kickboxing, and the like. Men don't think that such exercises are manly enough. They are wrong.One is those who think that running, or dancing or even cycling are not "manly" enough, and it is beneath them to actually do anythign with the word "cardio" in it. They believe cardio is something for people in shiny leotards and they will look like Jane Fonda if they ever try it by accident. Kind of the exact opposite from those who think that lifting anything heavier than a 1 lb dumbbell will transofrm them automatically into Hulk Hogan.
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1HappyRedhead wrote: »
So when can we meet for some exercise?0 -
MrBiggiesworth wrote: »It seems like many weight lifters are proud of the fact that they do little or no cardio exercise? Why is this?
I enjoy riding as much as I enjoy being in the weight room, so I do cardio...but I have a couple of friends that are into body building and they do very little, particularly when bulking. They spend the majority of their time in the weight room....far more time than I do...and in speaking with them, they don't like doing cardio because that just makes them have to eat even more to bulk and they have a hard time as it is...having done a bulk myself, I can kind of attest to that.
Those guys tend to do not much more than some walking, except when they cut they tend to do a bit more cardio, at least from my observation.
Beyond that, I think a lot of people just don't like cardio...as a matter of general fitness, I highly recommend doing some, but at the same time it isn't really necessary either...you can get a good workout for your heart lifting weight...I can attest to that as well as my primary lifts are Olympic and that's usually the first 20-30 minutes of my lifting session and my HR is flying.0 -
I understand not doing "traditional" cardio, like jogging or cycling, but there must be some form of cardio or conditioning for a program to be complete imo.0
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Tabata sex. She's a lucky lady. 0 -
From what I have understood by reading comments so far those who don't do cardio get bored by it.
Well if I get bored of something and if I don't enjoy doing it why in the world would I go around recommending it to others.
EDTA : Typo
**playing devil's advocate**
Because it's still good for you. I don't like going to the dentist, but I still go. I don't like doing dishes, but I do them. I don't like folding laundry, but I still do it.
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean there isn't value in doing it.
Lifting improves VO2max.
I'm sure it does. But I'm also sure that the adaptations from lifting are not the same as those from running which are not the same as those from swimming which are not the same as those from >>insert exercise here<<.
My only point was that not enjoying something is not sufficient reason to dissuade others from doing it.
And there you go....
So then what form of cardio should one do?
People don't need to do cardio if they don't want to.....
If they like it, then go ahead. If not, then why do it?
If my heart can be strong and healthy from lifting, then I will do that......
Like you said, adaptation for whatever your goal is.
Completely agree. What you do or don't do, whether we're talking cardio, lifting, mobility, diet, etc., should be based on your goals first and preferences second. If you don't want to do something and have no reason to do it based on your goals, then don't.
I can't tell if people are arguing because they are emotionally invested in whatever they believe, if people are just picking out phrases/statements to pick a fight over, or if they are actually trying to be unbiased and helpful. I include myself in this when I say "people".0 -
MrBiggiesworth wrote: »It seems like many weight lifters are proud of the fact that they do little or no cardio exercise? Why is this?
The only lifters I see doing this are ONLY about how they look. It is not about athletic performance or other goals, and they can achieve the results they want without cardio. Personally, it is missing the complete fitness pictures IMHO. Same as the cardio nuts out there who do not do any lifting. But to each their own.
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slideaway1 wrote: »
Tabata sex. She's a lucky lady.
Bwahahahaha.....
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High intensity interval cardio has been proven to be more effective that steady stay cardio. however it takes less time. It is more difficult. I think weight lifters are generally the type of people that spend so much time in diet and exercise that a lot of steady stay cardio would cause them to have to cut out on some of the stuff they love most, lifting and strength training. So why not use a more time efficient proven way to get the cardio done that does not involve hours of cardio, but is scientifically proven to be the most effective? I don't think weight lifters avoid cardio any more than cardio enthusiasts avoid lifting, Just sayin' ! Why would they want to lift, when all they want to do is run, and visa versa? why does it have to be a problem? To each his own. Do what you love and be happy. There is no One right way to do it. One is not better than the other. It's about what gets you the results you want and what makes you happy. Or else, what is it all for anyway? Happy lifting and happy trails.
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