trainers or professional bodybuilders opinion needed
dukecrazy77
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I have read that the body can only produce 2-3 pounds of muscle a month and up to possibly 25 pounds a year? Im sure after 5 years this is still a true proven fact, right?
I have a friend who swears that he worked out 3 weeks straight, 4 days a week and gained 19 pounds of pure muscle then claims he had to stop working out due to getting to big. In my head i knew he was full of crap. I called him out of course in front of ppl but its virtually impossible to do this without gaining fat but his training partner who is a trainer some where claims that his gains are true but yet ge looks like all his muscle went to his gut.
i read alot and study because the transformation of the body is fascinating so i like to know how it works.
Unless science has a secret supplement that idk about this is still impossible to do weight wise?
I just need something to show him that his trainer is crap and his theories and he needs to read a little bit which will educate him...maybe
thanks in advance
I have a friend who swears that he worked out 3 weeks straight, 4 days a week and gained 19 pounds of pure muscle then claims he had to stop working out due to getting to big. In my head i knew he was full of crap. I called him out of course in front of ppl but its virtually impossible to do this without gaining fat but his training partner who is a trainer some where claims that his gains are true but yet ge looks like all his muscle went to his gut.
i read alot and study because the transformation of the body is fascinating so i like to know how it works.
Unless science has a secret supplement that idk about this is still impossible to do weight wise?
I just need something to show him that his trainer is crap and his theories and he needs to read a little bit which will educate him...maybe
thanks in advance
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19 lbs of solid muscle in 3 weeks, hahahahaha! Even the most expensive "supplements" can't achieve that! 19 lbs of water weight + fat + undigested food + exaggeration + a few pounds of muscle (maybe) could have happened...but not 100% all of it as pure muscle.0
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HA HA HA HA HA HAH...
no.
he's wrong.0 -
He must have one sweet ab
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I think for men they can gain an ounce of muscle per day at their best. Meaning in three weeks he gained 21 ounces of muscle max (a bit under a pound and a half). So he gained 17.5 pounds of water, fat and bullsh*t (which is flowing out of his mouth).0
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1/2 lb a week lean body mass gain is a reasonable goal. This is 12 times that.0
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Yeah, right, he gained all of that muscle and I lost 35 lbs. of fat and got 6 pack abs -- didn't happen.0
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In 3 weeks? Not a chance.0
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Im not an expert nor claim to be and i dont believe everything i read but i have been working out 10 yrs or so and im not trying to get huge but i stay around 150 but i am trying to get heavier a bit and i know with muscle comes fat and what i eat and how much determines muscle and fat ratio and etc...sure i can call his bluff but i just needed others opinions to show him that maybe his trainer is not right for him since his trainer stopped hi0
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dukecrazy77 wrote: »Im not an expert nor claim to be and i dont believe everything i read but i have been working out 10 yrs or so and im not trying to get huge but i stay around 150 but i am trying to get heavier a bit and i know with muscle comes fat and what i eat and how much determines muscle and fat ratio and etc...sure i can call his bluff but i just needed others opinions to show him that maybe his trainer is not right for him since his trainer stopped hi
What you eat? Sort of, but how many calories you are eating compared to how many your body burns is the more important factor in how much fat you gain.0 -
what you eat has very little, if any effect on muscle/fat ratio. When adding weight or cutting weight, calories are 99% of the equation.0
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I've seen somthing similar to this happen with clients and myself. When coming back from a layoff I gained 14lbs in 3 months and got leaner. A client of mine gained 28lbs in 2 months and didn't add that much fat. If you increase volume fast enough and train with high intensity you can get some crazy results.0
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ScottJTyler wrote: »I've seen somthing similar to this happen with clients and myself. When coming back from a layoff I gained 14lbs in 3 months and got leaner. A client of mine gained 28lbs in 2 months and didn't add that much fat. If you increase volume fast enough and train with high intensity you can get some crazy results.
What method do you use to calculate that?0 -
This was achieved by TRAINING HARD and not mentally restraining yourself by reading articles about theoretical limitations written by skinny guys on the internet.0
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ScottJTyler wrote: »I've seen somthing similar to this happen with clients and myself. When coming back from a layoff I gained 14lbs in 3 months and got leaner. A client of mine gained 28lbs in 2 months and didn't add that much fat. If you increase volume fast enough and train with high intensity you can get some crazy results.
No, you didn't.
ETA: unless geared up.0 -
ScottJTyler wrote: »This was achieved by TRAINING HARD and not mentally restraining yourself by reading articles about theoretical limitations written by skinny guys on the internet.
I didn't ask how you did it. I asked how you are calculating body fat and lean mass gains? Also, when you say he gained do you mean total lean mass or actual muscle mass (as I am sure you know there is a difference)?0 -
ScottJTyler wrote: »I've seen somthing similar to this happen with clients and myself. When coming back from a layoff I gained 14lbs in 3 months and got leaner. A client of mine gained 28lbs in 2 months and didn't add that much fat. If you increase volume fast enough and train with high intensity you can get some crazy results.
No, you didn't.
ETA: unless geared up.
My guesses:
-using a highly inaccurate method to measure fat
-counting water/glycogen into the gains
-exaggeration0 -
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It's funny being told you can't do something that you actually did. Ah, the internet is a strange place. Good luck with your science!0
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ScottJTyler wrote: »This was achieved by TRAINING HARD and not mentally restraining yourself by reading articles about theoretical limitations written by skinny guys on the internet.
Natty or geared up ???0 -
ScottJTyler wrote: »It's funny being told you can't do something that you actually did. Ah, the internet is a strange place. Good luck with your science!
I asked you questions and you didn't answer them, you blew it off and attempted to insult me. Meaning that my guesses were correct.0 -
19lbs of pure muscle in 3 weeks? Even with PED's that's not likely. You're talking months where his friend did it in weeks. I love broscience stories.ScottJTyler wrote: »I've seen somthing similar to this happen with clients and myself. When coming back from a layoff I gained 14lbs in 3 months and got leaner. A client of mine gained 28lbs in 2 months and didn't add that much fat. If you increase volume fast enough and train with high intensity you can get some crazy results.
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This is not physically possible. Even if he were using steroids.0
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ScottJTyler wrote: »This was achieved by TRAINING HARD and not mentally restraining yourself by reading articles about theoretical limitations written by skinny guys on the internet.
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Actually the trainer does. He's stringing the client along with false improvement to ensure more sessions. Not an uncommon tactic in the fitness industry.Your friend and that trainer have no clue what they are talking about.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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Except that the "trainer" you quoted before this is making the same claim and defending it. The other trainer could very well believe he is getting those kinds of results seeing that we have a prime example in this thread.0 -
Drugs are bad, kids. Very bad0
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