trainers or professional bodybuilders opinion needed

ScottJTyler wrote: »

This was achieved by TRAINING HARD and not mentally restraining yourself by reading articles about theoretical limitations written by skinny guys on the internet.

Natty or geared up ???

ScottJTyler wrote: »

I've seen somthing similar to this happen with clients and myself. When coming back from a layoff I gained 14lbs in 3 months and got leaner. A client of mine gained 28lbs in 2 months and didn't add that much fat. If you increase volume fast enough and train with high intensity you can get some crazy results.

19lbs of pure muscle in 3 weeks? Even with PED's that's not likely. You're talking months where his friend did it in weeks. I love broscience stories.

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ScottJTyler wrote: »

This was achieved by TRAINING HARD and not mentally restraining yourself by reading articles about theoretical limitations written by skinny guys on the internet.

ninerbuff wrote: »

MrM27 wrote: »

Your friend and that trainer have no clue what they are talking about.

Actually the trainer does. He's stringing the client along with false improvement to ensure more sessions. Not an uncommon tactic in the fitness industry.

Except that the "trainer" you quoted before this is making the same claim and defending it. The other trainer could very well believe he is getting those kinds of results seeing that we have a prime example in this thread.

ScottJTyler wrote: »

It's funny being told you can't do something that you actually did. Ah, the internet is a strange place. Good luck with your science!

The reality is scientific measurements and methods help to ensure accuracy. Going by one's word as evidence with dudes in gyms.....well I'd take science. Gymrats notoriously lie more about their weight, height, how much they lift, and gains, etc. just because. I've been around it for more than 30 years and though the people change, the story stays the same.

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You're being assumptive and slanderous.






These two pictures were taken in June and then August last Year. Sadly I don't have the data to show you as I wasn't as meticulous then. For context: the first picture was at the end of a 3 month break from weights and the second was after going straight back into 2 hours a day training for around 10 weeks.
The guy who gained two stone was previously athletic but had been sedentary for about a year prior to starting. He was naturally lean and skinny but when I got him simply eating more his strength and size shot up. The weight gain is self-reported so can be treated with a little skepticism but the rapid gain in size is visually apparent.

ScottJTyler wrote: »

This was achieved by TRAINING HARD and not mentally restraining yourself by reading articles about theoretical limitations written by skinny guys on the internet.

Skinny guy on the Internet wrote this, says at most can gain 2 pounds of muscle a month
https://www.t-nation.com/training/truth-about-bulking

Skinny guy is Christian Thibaudeau, bodybuilder, strength coach writer for T-Nation, Iron Magazine, etc.

Nothing but a joke. Change in lighting, stance, flexed vs not. Being leaner and being able to see more muscle definition doesn't mean you gained muscle. You're going by looks. Dexa-scan and prove you added the muscle you say you did in that time frame.