Bread??
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@donjtomasco when I used myself as a guinea pig I weighed myself daily, sometimes twice a day, for over a month. It was the only way to determine if there was a pattern. I found a pattern.0
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I eat white bread and avoid whole grain breads for weightloss because white bread has fewer calories.0
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Personally, I like to stay away from breads. I don't completely avoid them, because I do like breakfast sandwiches with english muffins, or tuna sandwiches, but I don't eat them like I use to because 1) bread makes me more hungry and 2) I am a total foodie who has trouble staying below 2100 calories, so I'd rather use my calories on something filling, not something that will make me more hungry, causing me to go over my goal, and 3) I usually eat too much of it, especially if it's good bread. So personally, that just spells disaster. It's really a personal preference.0
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JGNATCA, I do the same thing. I weigh AM and PM and sometimes more often for fun. When I was eating bread I found a pattern that my weight loss slowed down. When I stopped eating bread, it accelerated to make up (I guess) for that lagtime in the bread stuff working its way through my system. Then back to normal. I NEVER GAINED WEIGHT from eating bread, it just slowed down my weight loss, which up till eating the bread had been a very predictable graph of weight loss. I do not expect to gain weight from my very tasty bread and breaded and fried and starchy lunch today, but I expect to see that old deviation tomorrow morning (or for the next few days). Anyway, just me, just my pattern, just what I have found to be a "thing" that happens to me when I include my most loved "bread" in my daily diet.
Which is what I have said before, said earlier and am just saying again, in different words.
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Years ago, we ate white or wheat bread with every meal. It was like a staple in our house. Now bread is an occasional indulgence and I work it into my daily calories if I want it. Trader Joe's 9 grain...a toasted english muffin...Panera Bread asiago cheese bagel...or maybe a restaurant that makes it's own sourdough. Now that's bread worth eating 0
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Wow, 1,973 calorie lunch. My biggest single meal this year. But with calorie room to spare, I will have a stadium hot dog and popcorn tonight at a local sporting event. I can't wait to weigh in the morning and I sure home that JELLY is right and I am wrong. Regardless, what a great bread and starchy day.0
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Rhye bread is really god for you, it's filling. You still get an intake if carbs, and it helps even out your sugar levels so you won't crave surgery treats. It's not good to completely cut things out of your diet. For example, carbs make you bloat, but you also need carbs in your diet. So instead of cutting cabs out of yours yet, cut out the unhealthy part, for example don't eat white carbs. So eat brown pasta rice bread in stead of the white pasta rice and bread... Balance is always good xx0
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I avoid it just because a) I have no self-control around bread (and tend to top it with piles of cheese and butter), and b) when I'm limiting calories I don't feel bread contains enough nutritional bang for its caloric "buck." There's nothing wrong with it if you don't have these issues.0
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Rhye bread is really god for you, it's filling. You still get an intake if carbs, and it helps even out your sugar levels so you won't crave surgery treats. It's not good to completely cut things out of your diet. For example, carbs make you bloat, but you also need carbs in your diet. So instead of cutting cabs out of yours yet, cut out the unhealthy part, for example don't eat white carbs. So eat brown pasta rice bread in stead of the white pasta rice and bread... Balance is always good xx
And why exactly shouldn't we eat white carbs? Why brown rice and not white rice?
Who knows? This whole thread is a hot mess of misinformation.0 -
I can not speak for other people and how they feel, as for me I have cut back heavily on my bread consumption just because I have a huge addiction. I love all bread and I realized after several personal experiments that I tend to get hungry sooner after I eat bread so I tended to snack more often. Also, bread makes me bloated so I try to avoid that unnecessary side effect ha ha. However, I do not hate bread or have any hard feelings to it. I still eat it on occasion (usually on my cheat meal on the weekend).0
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Every morning for breakfast I eat a sandwich made from a scrambled egg, 1TB of cheddar cheese, 1 ounce of deli meat and 2 slices of whole wheat 35 calorie bread. It's delicious, easy and healthy and only 200 calories. I won't give up bread, but I'm very selective about how much/what kind I eat now. Low calorie lets me eat it and not feel guilty about it.0
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donjtomasco wrote: »Hey Jelly, I am doing a scientific study for you today. I have my morning weight (and past daily weights since Jan 1). I have noteaten today, so I have my breakfast calories to add to my lunch calories. I have 59 days straight of weighing less then I did on the 7th prior day.
For lunch I am having a fried catfish filet po-boy, on a white bread roll, with mayo and tartar sauce, fries and cole slaw. Might start out with some fried oysters. I love ketsup on top of crackers, so I will count how many of those I have. Might end it with some key lime pie.
I will log all the food items and calories and we will see if you are right, or if this meal maybe slows down my weight loss.
As always, my diary is open for anyone to look at. Yum Yum!!!
But, because of the increased food and carbs, you will probably see in an increase on the scale due to water. That's not a slow down, it's natural retention.0 -
That is funny Runner. Are u trying to be serious saying that? You just crossed youself in that one comment.0
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donjtomasco wrote: »That is funny Runner. Are u trying to be serious saying that? You just crossed youself in that one comment.
What happened to you agreeing with that same assessment earlier today? :huh:0 -
Rhye bread is really god for you, it's filling. You still get an intake if carbs, and it helps even out your sugar levels so you won't crave surgery treats. It's not good to completely cut things out of your diet. For example, carbs make you bloat, but you also need carbs in your diet. So instead of cutting cabs out of yours yet, cut out the unhealthy part, for example don't eat white carbs. So eat brown pasta rice bread in stead of the white pasta rice and bread... Balance is always good xx
And why exactly shouldn't we eat white carbs? Why brown rice and not white rice?
Suck, no body wanted to answer^^
Because people think some foods are "better" than others to lose weight. And think weird things like bread is "heavy when digesting" and that gum takes 7 years to digest and random wives tales and myths0 -
Maid what she said was different and contradicted herself. Quite amazing. You dont see it? Really?0
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donjtomasco wrote: »I think bread slows down the speed of weight loss, but once you absorb that blip in weight loss time, you will get back to a normal time of losing weight. Conversely, if you drop the bread you might see a larger amount of weight come off. Especially white bread.
My experience ... over the last 2 months, I've been eating more bread than usual because it is what I've been craving (not chocolate, not chips, just bread). And I've lost weight a lot faster than I anticipated.
I had toast after work twice this week, and ......... I've lost weight.
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NO,donjtomasco wrote: »Maid what she said was different and contradicted herself. Quite amazing. You dont see it? Really?
Different than what? I don't see any contradiction in that post. She's the saying the same thing the rest of us have been saying all day.0 -
The bickering on this site gets old quickly. Don't we all have the same goal...to lose weight? Just because someone may have a different opinion does not mean they should be ridiculed. I don't think even the experts agree...so why don't we all agree that none of us are experts on healthy eating. If we were, would we really need this site??0
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Parkercomom wrote: »The bickering on this site gets old quickly. Don't we all have the same goal...to lose weight? Just because someone may have a different opinion does not mean they should be ridiculed. I don't think even the experts agree...so why don't we all agree that none of us are experts on healthy eating. If we were, would we really need this site??
This!!0 -
Parkercomom wrote: »The bickering on this site gets old quickly. Don't we all have the same goal...to lose weight? Just because someone may have a different opinion does not mean they should be ridiculed. I don't think even the experts agree...so why don't we all agree that none of us are experts on healthy eating. If we were, would we really need this site??
We are all not here for the same reason. And when it comes down to science a different opinion turns into incorrect information that is being passed along. People who debate and go back and forth are trying to keep this site from being another bs unreliable site and you don't have to be an expert to know most of the things discussed. So far they have helped me a lot and I'd like to believe that by not sugar coating things stupid myths are being busted and people are learning the truth and not wasting their money on detox teas or wraps. Plus healthy and weight loss are two different things. And some people can't afford an expert nutritionist. Why come to this site? Because of the passionate people people and well discussed topics. People don't get away with just an answer here if it's not backed up by logic and science someone will correct you and if I can't have an expert opinion why not have 20-30 people discuss it for me and come up with an educated well discussed answer0 -
nancyjay__ wrote: »Parkercomom wrote: »The bickering on this site gets old quickly. Don't we all have the same goal...to lose weight? Just because someone may have a different opinion does not mean they should be ridiculed. I don't think even the experts agree...so why don't we all agree that none of us are experts on healthy eating. If we were, would we really need this site??
We are all not here for the same reason. And when it comes down to science a different opinion turns into incorrect information that is being passed along. People who debate and go back and forth are trying to keep this site from being another bs unreliable site and you don't have to be an expert to know most of the things discussed. So far they have helped me a lot and I'd like to believe that by not sugar coating things stupid myths are being busted and people are learning the truth and not wasting their money on detox teas or wraps. Plus healthy and weight loss are two different things. And some people can't afford an expert nutritionist. Why come to this site? Because of the passionate people people and well discussed topics. People don't get away with just an answer here if it's not backed up by logic and science someone will correct you and if I can't have an expert opinion why not have 20-30 people discuss it for me and come up with an educated well discussed answer
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This mornings weight, 190.2, up 3.4 pounds from Thursday, 3.0 pounds higher then 7 days ago. I think I clearly proved my little point with jelly, maid and runner. For me, eating white bread, starches, french fries, and fried food caused my weight to go up, substantially (for me). But boy was the food good and fun. And it fit inside my daily calorie goal.
So call it what you want, I ate what I wanted, I ate within my calorie goals, and my weight went up. Period. But this is just me.
Oh and by the way, weight going up is even worse then weight not going down as fast. This was a complete reversal. And no, I am not going to mix it up with potato chips, cake, gummy wraps, and tortilla's today. For me I know what the results will be.0 -
I love bread. I like wraps more though.0
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Me too. Yesterday was very fun.0
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donjtomasco wrote: »This mornings weight, 190.2, up 3.4 pounds from Thursday, 3.0 pounds higher then 7 days ago. I think I clearly proved my little point with jelly, maid and runner. For me, eating white bread, starches, french fries, and fried food caused my weight to go up, substantially (for me). But boy was the food good and fun.
The foods you gorged yourself on were high in sodium. Temporary water retention after eating meals high in sodium is a well-established phenomenon and has nothing to do with bread stalling weight loss. Your advice is still faulty. I am sorry to hear you backtracking and repeating it.
I ate bread yesterday and I hit a new low weight this morning. Of course, I understand that weight loss isn't about eating one food or eliminating a food.
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You didn't prove anything, Don. We all told you that your weight would be up and that it's water weight and temporary. You either like to argue (my guess) or you're being deliberately obtuse because yesterday you pretended that you understood and now you're claiming otherwise. You didn't just add a slice of bread to your day yesterday to see this dramatic gain. You ate a crapload of salty foods but want to blame the bread. Whatever floats your boat, but hopefully those following along at home realize that eliminating bread from the diet isn't necessary.0
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The question was whether eating bread and fun foods and keeping it within my calorie goals would slow down my weight loss. That was the only question. The answer was not only yes, it slows mine down (not yours M2M, not Jellys, not Maids, not Runners, just mine), but I gained weight.
Twist it all you want. I could do this for another day, having some pastry for breakfast, a hamburger for lunch with some veggies, maybe some chips for snack, and some ice cream with my dinner, and keep it all within my calorie goals. But I don't need to prove to you people what I know these foods do to me.
So back to work eating the right foods. But yesterday was a fun experiment.0 -
donjtomasco wrote: »The question was whether eating bread and fun foods and keeping it within my calorie goals would slow down my weight loss. That was the only question.
The question was whether you were correct to tell OP that bread stalls weight loss.
Your poor reading comprehension has taken yet another thread off track.
Bread does not stall weight loss. Gorging yourself on high sodium fried foods, pie, and crackers spread with ketchup may well result in temporary water retention, even if eaten within calorie goals. I, along with others, pointed this out yesterday.
This has nothing to do with bread.0 -
donjtomasco wrote: »The question was whether eating bread and fun foods and keeping it within my calorie goals would slow down my weight loss. That was the only question. The answer was not only yes, it slows mine down (not yours M2M, not Jellys, not Maids, not Runners, just mine), but I gained weight.
Twist it all you want. I could do this for another day, having some pastry for breakfast, a hamburger for lunch with some veggies, maybe some chips for snack, and some ice cream with my dinner, and keep it all within my calorie goals. But I don't need to prove to you people what I know these foods do to me.
So back to work eating the right foods. But yesterday was a fun experiment.
Are you seriously as dense as this thread makes you out to be? You think that eating 2,700+ calories yesterday and 5,000+ grams of sodium proves your point? Seriously? Do you not understand what water retention is? Do you understand that one day of eating does not a trend make?
You know, I could do a "study" as well where I ate 2,000 calories of chicken and vegetables covered in 5,000+ grams of salt and, guess what, I would see a weight gain the next day. By your logic, I could then claim that chicken and vegetables cause a slow down in weight loss.0
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