Rude comments?
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I thought we were supposed to wait until Friday for this . . .0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »I am terribly sorry about this sweet young man's demise; I know it must hurt you very much to see such a shattered loss. I had both a grandfather and an aunt who committed suicide. Mental illness is not controllable. Weight loss is. I don't mean to sound mean or cynical, but your story has nothing to do with MFP.
Actually it does, it shows how words can hurt and cause someone to do something out of character. We forget that here we use words and are face to face. People react differently to comments and what doesn't seem as offensive to one person can be taken as offensive by another! We all have a right to be heard without the fear of being shot down by nasty comments.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »I am terribly sorry about this sweet young man's demise; I know it must hurt you very much to see such a shattered loss. I had both a grandfather and an aunt who committed suicide. Mental illness is not controllable. Weight loss is. I don't mean to sound mean or cynical, but your story has nothing to do with MFP.
Actually it does, it shows how words can hurt and cause someone to do something out of character. We forget that here we use words and are face to face. People react differently to comments and what doesn't seem as offensive to one person can be taken as offensive by another! We all have a right to be heard without the fear of being shot down by nasty comments.
By that logic you aren't allowed to say anything unless it's all bubbly nice with sugar on top, because someone might feel sad from it. What is a nice way of saying "Your diet is unnecessary, the guy peddling it is trying to sell you s***, go do something sustainable."? Which is a common occurence, which happened again just today, guess how it ended? OP went off in a huff being offended by the people telling her the truth. Because rather than actual advice and the truth she would have rather heard everyone praise her and agree with her.
You can't make discussion work like that. No matter how you word it, she'd get offended by it simply by the fact that you didn't "say something nice."0 -
This isn't school, and if people are so thin-skinned, they have the right not to visit the threads which might hurt their feelings. If anyone commits suicide because of a truthful comment made in answer to their question, they have a much deeper problem.0
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Should read not face to face but when editing internet went. Its raining here. I joined MFP to get support, to get some answers and to have someone encourage me and tell me off when I cheat on my diet and visa versa. In the real world I have no friends, no support and no one really to hold me accountable, except my wonderful husband. I'm a long way from home and turned to MFP to have what I was missing. If someone doesn't like my comments, opinions or advice well, it doesn't hurt me. Still, we need to take a breath, count to 10 and think about what we say to others before we get ourselves into a huge messy situation. Nasty comments don't pay the bills or help us like we weight. It does nothing helpful.0
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There are no nasty comments here; just people saying what OP doesn't want to hear.0
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Deal with them like any adult would.....as they choose.0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »There are no nasty comments here; just people saying what OP doesn't want to hear.
Exactly. And the story about Trevor is irrelevant because no one under the age of 18 should be on this site. I'm sorry, but when someone comes to me (which is what they are doing when they post to a public forum) for advice, I will give it in a blunt, matter of fact style so that there is no misunderstanding. If it's not what you want to hear, then fine, you do you, but don't say it's mean, rude, etc. Remember, disagreeing with something =/= being mean.0 -
Ok! Wait someone actually tried to advice a girl that she was spending money on something that was not of benefit to her and she took offense to that? Well, the truth hurts, sugar coated or not. People will believe what they want to believe and sometimes when they hear the truth they are so caught up in thinking they are right that they can't listen to good advice. Spending money on something that is of nob benefit to your health when you trying to get healthy is like putting money into a piggy bank with no cover at the bottom.0
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People react differently to comments and what doesn't seem as offensive to one person can be taken as offensive by another!
That's the problem. People take things as offensive all the time that just aren't, to me.
For example:
OP: "Has anyone tried this detox?"
A: "Detoxes don't work, they are scams, save your money."
OP: "I've already bought it! Why can't you just be supportive? I think it will give me a kickstart!"We all have a right to be heard without the fear of being shot down by nasty comments.
I think you are using "right" incorrectly.
But in any case, we do not have a right to express an opinion without disagreement, and disagreement, even heated disagreement, on a matter of fact is not "mean."
I'm not at all sure that's what this thread was about, though.0 -
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Ok! Wait someone actually tried to advice a girl that she was spending money on something that was not of benefit to her and she took offense to that? Well, the truth hurts, sugar coated or not. People will believe what they want to believe and sometimes when they hear the truth they are so caught up in thinking they are right that they can't listen to good advice. Spending money on something that is of nob benefit to your health when you trying to get healthy is like putting money into a piggy bank with no cover at the bottom.
Yeah, it was about an alkaline diet. The pdf with the list of restrictions had a whole page dedicated to stuff the website owner sells, someone posted a link talking about that the whole "eat alkaline foods to make your body more alkaline" thing isn't how anything of this works, it also gets advertised as alternative cancer treatment and the guy doing it is listed on quackwatch.
The whole program in other words.
OP didn't like getting told those things.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Yeah, it was about an alkaline diet. The pdf with the list of restrictions had a whole page dedicated to stuff the website owner sells, someone posted a link talking about that the whole "eat alkaline foods to make your body more alkaline" thing isn't how anything of this works, it also gets advertised as alternative cancer treatment and the guy doing it is listed on quackwatch.
The whole program in other words.
OP didn't like getting told those things.
Wow, that is serious stuff. The poor girl. So scams like that still are going on today? Sorry, you must think I am living in another world. To be honest, I have been living in Nigeria since 2010 (on and off, but now permanently) and have not been able to see the programmes I normally watch cos my kids have the TV control. Oh my God! The poor girl. Anyway she can get her money back? Surely such scams can be stopped legally. Or can anyone just make up a diet and make money, just like that.
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waste of popcorn. I have high hopes that friday's "mean people" thread will be better.0 -
I think laws are pretty lenient on that kinda stuff as long as your smallprint says things like "not tested in a scientific environment" or whatever.stevencloser wrote: »Yeah, it was about an alkaline diet. The pdf with the list of restrictions had a whole page dedicated to stuff the website owner sells, someone posted a link talking about that the whole "eat alkaline foods to make your body more alkaline" thing isn't how anything of this works, it also gets advertised as alternative cancer treatment and the guy doing it is listed on quackwatch.
The whole program in other words.
OP didn't like getting told those things.
Wow, that is serious stuff. The poor girl. So scams like that still are going on today? Sorry, you must think I am living in another world. To be honest, I have been living in Nigeria since 2010 (on and off, but now permanently) and have not been able to see the programmes I normally watch cos my kids have the TV control. Oh my God! The poor girl. Anyway she can get her money back? Surely such scams can be stopped legally. Or can anyone just make up a diet and make money, just like that.
And anyway, she doesn't want her money back. She basically blended out everything everyone said and went on her merry way.0 -
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Sorry, new here, apologise so much, forget I said anything, will wait till Friday. Curse of the newbie. Just gave myself a slap on the wrist!!!!atypicalsmith wrote: »This wasn't supposed to start until Friday, and MrM and I reminded everyone, but we obviously have no control . . .
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I seriously doubt that people get offended by others that tell them that they are wasting money and things that would benefit them, but the rude comments I know are when people do not answer your question at all, and you get a, "oh no! Here we go again" and sarcastic bull crap like that.0
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No, somebody else should give themselves a slap right upside the head! You haven't did anything wrong.
Sorry, new here, apologise so much, forget I said anything, will wait till Friday. Curse of the newbie. Just gave myself a slap on the wrist!!!!atypicalsmith wrote: »This wasn't supposed to start until Friday, and MrM and I reminded everyone, but we obviously have no control . . .
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[quote="MrM27;32215898"Do you at least understand why I said that? It wasn't a knock against you.
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I understand, don't worry. Thanks for your honest opinion. Got to go no, its pass 1 and I need to get up in less than 6 hrs. Btw, MFP rocks!!!0 -
rocknlotsofrolls wrote: »I seriously doubt that people get offended by others that tell them that they are wasting money and things that would benefit them, but the rude comments I know are when people do not answer your question at all, and you get a, "oh no! Here we go again" and sarcastic bull crap like that.
No, the rude remarks usually come from the OP who isn't getting the answers they want to hear. "Get off my post NOW!" and the like. Okay, so it's not Friday, but nobody else is waiting, so I'm not either. Not fair! You people are rude! I said wait until Friday, but nobody's doing that! Waaaaaaaa!0 -
Surround yourself with only people who are going to lift you HIGHER !! Life is already filled with those who want to bring you down ... So ignore the nasty stuff.,,0
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Right, edit that last post. Sorry I am tired! But you know what I was trying to do. Take care all. As I said MFP rocks!!!! Signing off now
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Ouch!rocknlotsofrolls wrote: »I seriously doubt that people get offended by others that tell them that they are wasting money and things that would benefit them, but the rude comments I know are when people do not answer your question at all, and you get a, "oh no! Here we go again" and sarcastic bull crap like that.
Well hang around a little longer and you'll see that people do get offended when told they are wasting money. Often you'll see the reply "I didn't ask for advice on how I spend my money, I just asked for YOUR experience with it". So try laying off jumping on the "Let's call everyone mean" bandwagon and see that there actually are tons of people on MFP that just don't want to hear the truth. They just want validation.
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