Cheese

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  • cheezels83
    cheezels83 Posts: 62 Member
    I was completely shocked when I weighed cheese for the first time and realised that so little adds up to so much. I was eating one heck of a lot of cheese and had no idea that it was as calorific as it was. I try not to snack on it as much now as I would rather eat a bigger portion of something else for the same calories. If I have it I have a little in a salad or something. When I can get a grip on my eating and my weight is significantly less than now, then I might budget a little more for it. Right now, it doesn't give me enough bang for my calorie buck.
  • bennettinfinity
    bennettinfinity Posts: 865 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    what the hell would be wrong with cheese?

    and what is "processed cheese"? Isn't all cheese processed????

    Cheese itself is processed milk - but I see where you're coming from :)

    Processed cheese is where cheese is taken and additional ingredients are added to make a cheese product - for example, Kraft singles and Dairylea.

    but you could not make cheese without processing, right?

    Of course. But the resulting product (i.e. cheese) is processed milk, not processed cheese. Cheese itself is processed from milk. The term 'processed' is used to describe products where the base ingredient (in this case, cheese) has been blended with additional ingredients. So processed milk = cheese. Processed cheese = Kraft singles. Processed grapes = wine. Processed wine... oh god, I don't even want to think about that :D

    As I said, I see where you are coming from and why you might consider it that way, but in this case it's the wrong way of using it. It is perfectly acceptable to say that all cheese is processed. But 'processed cheese' is a specific term. English is an *kitten* of a language :s

    so all cheese is processed, right?

    Yes, all cheese is processed from milk. But 'processed cheese' is specific terminology with refers to the post-processing product. i.e. Cheese that has had things added.

    it is a simple question.

    is all cheese processed yes or no???

    you seem to be saying yes,but you keep wanting to add a but …

    Yes. all cheese is processed.

    But not all cheese is 'processed cheese'. That is a specific term that refers to a product where additional ingredients are added to cheese.

    The OP was discussing 'processed cheese' and people were struggling with the terminology. I hoped this explanation has helped.

    good, so OP eats cheese that has been processed; even though she thinks she does not.

    and how do you make any cheese without adding an ingredient to it?????

    Correct, she eats cheese that has been processed. But, given the phrasing of her post, I suspect she does not eat 'processed cheese' (description above).

    You don't - you add the ingredients to the milk. Then you get cheese.

    so then by your own definition of processed cheese being things with "ingredients added" then all cheese is processed, right?

    How to up your post count: start a semantic argument on Every. Single. Thread.
  • JustinAnimal
    JustinAnimal Posts: 1,335 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    what the hell would be wrong with cheese?

    and what is "processed cheese"? Isn't all cheese processed????

    Cheese itself is processed milk - but I see where you're coming from :)

    Processed cheese is where cheese is taken and additional ingredients are added to make a cheese product - for example, Kraft singles and Dairylea.

    but you could not make cheese without processing, right?

    Of course. But the resulting product (i.e. cheese) is processed milk, not processed cheese. Cheese itself is processed from milk. The term 'processed' is used to describe products where the base ingredient (in this case, cheese) has been blended with additional ingredients. So processed milk = cheese. Processed cheese = Kraft singles. Processed grapes = wine. Processed wine... oh god, I don't even want to think about that :D

    As I said, I see where you are coming from and why you might consider it that way, but in this case it's the wrong way of using it. It is perfectly acceptable to say that all cheese is processed. But 'processed cheese' is a specific term. English is an *kitten* of a language :s

    so all cheese is processed, right?

    Yes, all cheese is processed from milk. But 'processed cheese' is specific terminology with refers to the post-processing product. i.e. Cheese that has had things added.

    it is a simple question.

    is all cheese processed yes or no???

    you seem to be saying yes,but you keep wanting to add a but …

    Yes. all cheese is processed.

    But not all cheese is 'processed cheese'. That is a specific term that refers to a product where additional ingredients are added to cheese.

    The OP was discussing 'processed cheese' and people were struggling with the terminology. I hoped this explanation has helped.

    good, so OP eats cheese that has been processed; even though she thinks she does not.

    and how do you make any cheese without adding an ingredient to it?????

    Correct, she eats cheese that has been processed. But, given the phrasing of her post, I suspect she does not eat 'processed cheese' (description above).

    You don't - you add the ingredients to the milk. Then you get cheese.

    so then by your own definition of processed cheese being things with "ingredients added" then all cheese is processed, right?

    How to up your post count: start a semantic argument on Every. Single. Thread.

    Oh, snap!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    what the hell would be wrong with cheese?

    and what is "processed cheese"? Isn't all cheese processed????

    Cheese itself is processed milk - but I see where you're coming from :)

    Processed cheese is where cheese is taken and additional ingredients are added to make a cheese product - for example, Kraft singles and Dairylea.

    but you could not make cheese without processing, right?

    Of course. But the resulting product (i.e. cheese) is processed milk, not processed cheese. Cheese itself is processed from milk. The term 'processed' is used to describe products where the base ingredient (in this case, cheese) has been blended with additional ingredients. So processed milk = cheese. Processed cheese = Kraft singles. Processed grapes = wine. Processed wine... oh god, I don't even want to think about that :D

    As I said, I see where you are coming from and why you might consider it that way, but in this case it's the wrong way of using it. It is perfectly acceptable to say that all cheese is processed. But 'processed cheese' is a specific term. English is an *kitten* of a language :s

    so all cheese is processed, right?

    Yes, all cheese is processed from milk. But 'processed cheese' is specific terminology with refers to the post-processing product. i.e. Cheese that has had things added.

    it is a simple question.

    is all cheese processed yes or no???

    you seem to be saying yes,but you keep wanting to add a but …

    Yes. all cheese is processed.

    But not all cheese is 'processed cheese'. That is a specific term that refers to a product where additional ingredients are added to cheese.

    The OP was discussing 'processed cheese' and people were struggling with the terminology. I hoped this explanation has helped.

    good, so OP eats cheese that has been processed; even though she thinks she does not.

    and how do you make any cheese without adding an ingredient to it?????

    Correct, she eats cheese that has been processed. But, given the phrasing of her post, I suspect she does not eat 'processed cheese' (description above).

    You don't - you add the ingredients to the milk. Then you get cheese.

    so then by your own definition of processed cheese being things with "ingredients added" then all cheese is processed, right?

    How to up your post count: start a semantic argument on Every. Single. Thread.

    hang around here for five years, and you can get your post count up too ..

    maybe one day you can play with the big boys.

    I was simply pointing out that when OP says "she avoids processed cheese" she is not, because she eats cheese, which is processed.


  • ktekc
    ktekc Posts: 879 Member
    OdesAngel wrote: »
    I love good cheese, but man... I have a sick sick fondness for cheese in a can.

    On ritz crackers ^^^

    Try it on Sour Cream & Onion Pringles. Heaven!!


    OMG YES I'm glad I am not the only one who does that!!
  • avskk
    avskk Posts: 1,787 Member
    Cheese is my second-favorite food. I have some every single day. Heavily processed or basically rotten milk, bright orange or soft white, I do not care at all.
  • Afura
    Afura Posts: 2,054 Member
    Moderation for me, because of diabetes (it causes sugar spikes). I love me some cheese though, just about any kind, I will eat several ounces of port salute as a snack if left for my own devices.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    Mmmm cheese, I love cheese. Except "plastic cheese"... Which I think is what I call what the OP calls processed cheese.
  • mistikal13
    mistikal13 Posts: 1,457 Member
    Love me some good cheese!
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  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    bio_fit wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    what the hell would be wrong with cheese?

    and what is "processed cheese"? Isn't all cheese processed????

    Cheese itself is processed milk - but I see where you're coming from :)

    Processed cheese is where cheese is taken and additional ingredients are added to make a cheese product - for example, Kraft singles and Dairylea.

    but you could not make cheese without processing, right?

    Of course. But the resulting product (i.e. cheese) is processed milk, not processed cheese. Cheese itself is processed from milk. The term 'processed' is used to describe products where the base ingredient (in this case, cheese) has been blended with additional ingredients. So processed milk = cheese. Processed cheese = Kraft singles. Processed grapes = wine. Processed wine... oh god, I don't even want to think about that :D

    As I said, I see where you are coming from and why you might consider it that way, but in this case it's the wrong way of using it. It is perfectly acceptable to say that all cheese is processed. But 'processed cheese' is a specific term. English is an *kitten* of a language :s

    so all cheese is processed, right?

    Yes, all cheese is processed from milk. But 'processed cheese' is specific terminology with refers to the post-processing product. i.e. Cheese that has had things added.

    it is a simple question.

    is all cheese processed yes or no???

    you seem to be saying yes,but you keep wanting to add a but …

    Yes. all cheese is processed.

    But not all cheese is 'processed cheese'. That is a specific term that refers to a product where additional ingredients are added to cheese.

    The OP was discussing 'processed cheese' and people were struggling with the terminology. I hoped this explanation has helped.

    good, so OP eats cheese that has been processed; even though she thinks she does not.

    and how do you make any cheese without adding an ingredient to it?????

    Correct, she eats cheese that has been processed. But, given the phrasing of her post, I suspect she does not eat 'processed cheese' (description above).

    You don't - you add the ingredients to the milk. Then you get cheese.

    so then by your own definition of processed cheese being things with "ingredients added" then all cheese is processed, right?

    How to up your post count: start a semantic argument on Every. Single. Thread.

    hang around here for five years, and you can get your post count up too ..

    maybe one day you can play with the big boys.

    I was simply pointing out that when OP says "she avoids processed cheese" she is not, because she eats cheese, which is processed.


    I'm a HE, by the way. Thanks for all of your help! .....

    Well, your profile pic is of two women, and your profile is completely hidden, so I don't think you can blame anyone for that assumption.

    Also, you weren't particularly clear in your original post. Basically you just asked for people's 'thoughts about cheese in the diet', and never replied when asked what these 'mixed reviews' were. So people replied, 'yes, eat the cheese'. We gave you lots of thoughts about cheese. Question answered.
  • sandryc79
    sandryc79 Posts: 250 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    gothchiq wrote: »
    The questions about pasteurized processed cheese food product have been answered. If the answers are ignored, that is not the problem of those who provided them. Some of us do not LIKE that stuff. Therefore we are not going to eat it.

    all cheese is processed so you are eating processed cheese. To say anything else is just a ridiculous statement…

    so you don't like processed cheese, but you eat processed cheese…?? OK ...

    The term "processed cheese" is defined in the random house dictionary as: A mass produced product made of one or more types of cheese that have been heated and mixed with emulsifiers, colorings flavorings etc primarily to retard spoilage and enhance spreadability at reduced cost. Since the term means something I think it is fine to use and the OP has my blessings to not like it.

    I personally enjoy both traditional and processed cheeses regularly.
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