Four bags of Oreos

SezxyStef wrote: »

brazilpaul wrote: »

My suggestion is to do what my wife did to me to get me kickstarted on changing my eating habits. Take the bags of oreos, and ice cream, and put them in the garbage. I wasn't mad, I was surprised at first, but I did find other things to begin snacking on. If that stuff was in my house, I confess I would eat it. If its not in the house, it's so much easier to eliminate from your diet and change your habits. Take it upon yourself to ensure healthier snacks are always available and if he legitimately wants to change his habits, he will.

If I did that to my husband he would not be impressed not just because his snacks are gone but because I just took about 50$ (yes we have that much snack food in our house if not more) and burned it...what a waste...

I don't get this trying to control other adults...I mean I am a control freak and would never consider doing any of these things...

I'm a control freak too and yet, I'd never cross the line and treat my husband this way. I have too much respect for him as an individual.

That's the bottom line. There are respectful ways to deal with troublesome issues. Some of the suggestions in this thread are born from people's personal issues with the food being mentioned, not from a place of respect that should be between partners in a loving relationship.

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

Oshun64 wrote: »

rabbitjb wrote: »

APeacefulWarrior wrote: »

Hubby and I had "the discussion" about eating more sensibly and healthier, and less junk food, etc, etc, etc, this weekend. (He has more weight to lose than I do.) Thought we were on the same page, until he came home from the grocery store this evening with four bags of Oreos, chocolate ice cream, eight pounds of pork sausage patties, and a supersize bag of generic Reese's pieces cereal.

I'm not even sure we're in the same book, much less on the same page. How do you handle these situations??

2 oreos is around 100 calories

I fail to see the issue

The issue is not simply one of CICO. The OP's husband has a chronic medical condition that is often exacerbated by certain foods (ie. those with refined sugar). Just because you and others fail to see the issue does not mean that there is no issue.

Couldn't have said it better myself!
Some people appear to get very het up by others making a decision to quit junk food. Those people must feel very defensive and insecure about choosing to eat such things themselves.

This is an interesting perception and merely a projection of your own stuff.

I've lost 80 pounds. I keep bringing home cookies, chocolate and ice cream. I just have them in moderation (the kids help though or I'd definitely bring home less cookies as there's no way I can eat a whole box before it gets stale).

I see your point though, my husband is always eating junk even though he's obese and has high blood pressure, and I really wish he would watch his diet. He did lose 10 pounds last year but regained it all since...

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/31/making-the-case-for-eating-fruit/?_r=0

Here is an article discussing why it is better for your body to get sugar from whole fruit rather than added refined.

APeacefulWarrior wrote: »

Just a morning update - I'll be reading through all the responses through the day,.. all four packages of Oreos have been opened and at least 2 cookies are gone from each. The packages will be finished within a week, I'm guessing.

As for addictions - food can be just as deadly an addiction as drugs, if not more so because you can't give it up completely like drugs or alcohol.

Not our first discussion by far - in fact he has gone to drastic extremes (WLS) which failed because he believed his gastric band would fix everything with no effort on his part.

Age does make a difference - the body does not recover as well from stressors and is much more prone to serious effects. So, to those of you in your 20s and 30s - make changes now. It will be much harder to lose it later.

I'll be back after work - keep this discussion rolling...

OP, I do just want to say that my heart does go out to you with how incredibly hard this must be for you to watch happen. I can understand that you'd feel helpless, and even understand wanting to DO something.

It's a tough situation watching someone who NEEDS to change who won't do it.

Wait, you said he's diabetic and he brought home all that stuff? Yeah, I'd stage an intervention or something.

I would handle that situation by not eating everything in one sitting. If he wants to eat those things, whether they fit into his calorie deficit or not, that's his business. It doesn't mean you have to eat it if it doesn't fit into your calorie goals. Only he can decide when he wants to make the effort to drop the weight, if ever.

In to find later.

OT: My hubby has similar medical issues that I have - HBP, high cholesterol - but he also has arthritis which would be helped somewhat with weight loss. I've suggested food tracking which he tried, but didn't make it beyond week 2 of entering everything before giving up. Hubby's the type of person who hates being pushed, shoved, guilt-tripped, and nagged into doing things. He'll go goat-mode stubborn and refuse. I do what I can without being a giant PITA. I portion out his snacks and keep his chips on top of the fridge so he has to decide if getting up and walking to the kitchen is worth a snack. He eats what I cook except at work. I can't do anymore for him than what I am. He'll either get to the point where he's ready or he'll keep complaining about his arthritis pain and how he can't tie his shoes properly without having acid reflux because his big gut is in the way.

I'd go the talking route with your hubby. Maybe get him to slow down on the sweets (4 Oreos is better than 8; it's progress). To me, your story is saying he doesn't care about himself and just wants to eat what he wants even if it puts him in the hospital.

@APeacefulWarrior I'm sorry to hear about your situation. If I was watching my husband do this to himself I would throw away the crap he brought in the house. Yes, I am controlling. But if my adult husband isn't going to act like an adult and be the PARTNER I married and stick to his promises I will make the decisions.

My husband wouldn't hesitate to tell me if it was the other way around. That's our dynamic. I didn't marry someone to watch them self destruct. Standing by and waiting until they "are ready to lose weight" would not be an option for me. Especially not someone who already had weight loss surgery once and had a serious disease like diabetes.

I watch those My 600lb life shows and there is always an enabler. I would not want to be that person. Ever.

I know you can't change anyone's behavior but your own. But that doesn't mean that someone else taking over all the food prep and grocery shopping won't work. That is at least changing your behavior. Only you can judge how he would respond to that and if it would be positive or negative. It would at least be a different response.

freeoscar wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

freeoscar wrote: »

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/31/making-the-case-for-eating-fruit/?_r=0

Here is an article discussing why it is better for your body to get sugar from whole fruit rather than added refined.

I stopped reading at Ludwig....

I will see your blog, and raise you with this one...

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

also, just because you get fiber from fruit does not make the sugar in fruit better. If I eat added sugar and take a multivitamin does it become good???

Clearly you stopped reading the article, as here is a direct quote from it:
"You can’t just take an 8-ounce glass of cola and add a serving of Metamucil and create a health food,” Dr. Ludwig said. “Even though the fructose-to-fiber ratio might be the same as an apple, the biological effects would be much different.”

Why?