Calorie Counting 101

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  • ShapingTheLaw
    ShapingTheLaw Posts: 65 Member
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    And, fyi, I'm 5'2 and my calorie goal is 1200. When I exercise, I usually burn between 300-480 calories but I still keep my maximum intake at 1300 to lose weight. I notice that when I give myself the green light to eat the number of calories that I burned, it backfires because it then takes me 2 or 3 weeks before I even lose a simple pound! So, yeah, keeping a deficit is crucial. That's my experience anyway.
  • kelseecarmichael2
    kelseecarmichael2 Posts: 7 Member
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    Thank you for writing this out such helpful information : )
  • dominiquemarinaa
    dominiquemarinaa Posts: 2 Member
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    This post is amazing! Bang on with everything! I wish i discovered calorie counting sooner its the only successful way i have encountered to get the weight off!
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    Hi, I'm bit confused.
    Im a female, 5'6 155 pounds, trying to lose 10 pounds roughly.
    Based on my TDEE on scoobycalcuator, i should be eating at 1856 with my 20% deficit. This is with 3-5 hours of workout per week.
    I do moderate amount of strength training for legs mostly and arms, back and abs. I don't know how to log that on MFP so when it reads, I'm getting a number around 1356 because i have a sedentary desk job. My cardio on workout days is only about 15-20 minutes total, so it doesn't show much burned. How do i log this correctly? it confuses me because I'm not sure if i actually eat a deficit. Its only been about a week now with tracking calories but I want to be sure I'm doing it right.
    Thanks !
    If your calories are based on a TDEE than you shouldn't be logging exercise calories. TDEE includes exercise. You should simply be eating the 1850 each day. If after a few weeks you do not lose weight, reduce your calories some and give it a few more weeks.

  • prettywingss04
    prettywingss04 Posts: 29 Member
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    vismal wrote: »
    Hi, I'm bit confused.
    Im a female, 5'6 155 pounds, trying to lose 10 pounds roughly.
    Based on my TDEE on scoobycalcuator, i should be eating at 1856 with my 20% deficit. This is with 3-5 hours of workout per week.
    I do moderate amount of strength training for legs mostly and arms, back and abs. I don't know how to log that on MFP so when it reads, I'm getting a number around 1356 because i have a sedentary desk job. My cardio on workout days is only about 15-20 minutes total, so it doesn't show much burned. How do i log this correctly? it confuses me because I'm not sure if i actually eat a deficit. Its only been about a week now with tracking calories but I want to be sure I'm doing it right.
    Thanks !
    If your calories are based on a TDEE than you shouldn't be logging exercise calories. TDEE includes exercise. You should simply be eating the 1850 each day. If after a few weeks you do not lose weight, reduce your calories some and give it a few more weeks.

    Ok great, thanks so much :)
  • princesschellzz
    princesschellzz Posts: 18 Member
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    Thanks for the information!!!! Will put into good use!!!! I would like to be your friend on here if that's cool!! Please add me!!!
  • suzieJones55
    suzieJones55 Posts: 11 Member
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    How do I add u
  • suzieJones55
    suzieJones55 Posts: 11 Member
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    I don't think your eating enough to lose. I know it sounds silly but your body actually needs more to lose
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    I don't think your eating enough to lose. I know it sounds silly but your body actually needs more to lose
    This is not correct whatsoever. Your body does not need more to lose. While eating very low calories is not a good idea for a myriad of reasons, fat loss stopping is NOT one of them. It makes no sense that when you deprive the body of food that it would hold on to fat. When you do not supply the body with the fuel it needs to function, it utilizes stored fuel. You will burn fat in a deficit. You will burn more fat in a larger deficit. Now I am not advocating very low calorie dieting. It can impair recovery, cause unneeded muscle loss, lead to burn out, trigger binges, make you feel like garbage etc. So once again to reiterate, very low calories have many negative things associated with them, the stoppage of fat loss simply is not one of them.
  • Soopatt
    Soopatt Posts: 563 Member
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    I have been on MFP for a month now and weigh all my food with a digital scale according to your very useful guidelines. I am 1.7 tall, eating 1200 calories and have lost 6.5lbs so far.

    I eat a lot of fresh prepackaged prepared meals as the calorie count is already done for me, but I have been too nervous to do my own home cooking since I started this process. Stews and "mixed" meals terrify me, as the idea of them makes me feel out of control. When you dish up, sometimes a bowl is more of one thing than another and I cannot see how I could measure this accurately. I am eating in a very boring way when I cook for myself as a result. Chicken breast on one side of plate which was weighed before cooking, baked potato on the other side of the plate.

    Any advice would be appreciated. I am going to bankrupt myself eating all these pre-prepared meals...
  • sodakat
    sodakat Posts: 1,126 Member
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    Soopatt wrote: »
    I have been on MFP for a month now and weigh all my food with a digital scale according to your very useful guidelines. I am 1.7 tall, eating 1200 calories and have lost 6.5lbs so far.

    I eat a lot of fresh prepackaged prepared meals as the calorie count is already done for me, but I have been too nervous to do my own home cooking since I started this process. Stews and "mixed" meals terrify me, as the idea of them makes me feel out of control. When you dish up, sometimes a bowl is more of one thing than another and I cannot see how I could measure this accurately. I am eating in a very boring way when I cook for myself as a result. Chicken breast on one side of plate which was weighed before cooking, baked potato on the other side of the plate.

    Any advice would be appreciated. I am going to bankrupt myself eating all these pre-prepared meals...

    If you are cooking just for yourself, then look at things with a weekly or even monthly view instead of the daily calorie count. What I mean is, if you build a dish that makes 4 servings of 350 calories each, in the long run it won't matter if one serving is actually 270 while another is 430 because if you log 350 calories 4 times, your weekly calorie goal will still be accurate.

    The recipe builder on MFP works really well, IMO, even though there are occasional bugs. Be sure to try it. I use it all the time. I often change up the way I make things from scratch and re-enter the ingredients for that particular mixture, then put a date on the recipe to be able to use the same name, such as "chili 5/5/16" or "lasagna with chicken 5/6/15", etc. This is because I rarely cook exactly the same way.

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  • jilly1130
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  • asayrtransport
    asayrtransport Posts: 7 Member
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    Hi , I am new here/ but I have a question. If u have left over calories at the end of the day does that mean u will gain or does it help lose. Because my goal is to lose 50 lbs , and I don't know if I have to intake all of he calories that are set for me / does it affect me in any way if I go less then what is expected ?
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    sodakat wrote: »
    Soopatt wrote: »
    I have been on MFP for a month now and weigh all my food with a digital scale according to your very useful guidelines. I am 1.7 tall, eating 1200 calories and have lost 6.5lbs so far.

    I eat a lot of fresh prepackaged prepared meals as the calorie count is already done for me, but I have been too nervous to do my own home cooking since I started this process. Stews and "mixed" meals terrify me, as the idea of them makes me feel out of control. When you dish up, sometimes a bowl is more of one thing than another and I cannot see how I could measure this accurately. I am eating in a very boring way when I cook for myself as a result. Chicken breast on one side of plate which was weighed before cooking, baked potato on the other side of the plate.

    Any advice would be appreciated. I am going to bankrupt myself eating all these pre-prepared meals...

    If you are cooking just for yourself, then look at things with a weekly or even monthly view instead of the daily calorie count. What I mean is, if you build a dish that makes 4 servings of 350 calories each, in the long run it won't matter if one serving is actually 270 while another is 430 because if you log 350 calories 4 times, your weekly calorie goal will still be accurate.

    The recipe builder on MFP works really well, IMO, even though there are occasional bugs. Be sure to try it. I use it all the time. I often change up the way I make things from scratch and re-enter the ingredients for that particular mixture, then put a date on the recipe to be able to use the same name, such as "chili 5/5/16" or "lasagna with chicken 5/6/15", etc. This is because I rarely cook exactly the same way.

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    This works great if you are cooking for yourself. If you are not, you just have to except the small amount of variance that occurs. It's not going to be anything dramatic. If 25-50 calorie swings in either direction are enough to wreck your deficit, then your deficit is too small to begin with. You just have to accept that over time you will have a few more calories just as many times as you'll have a few less calories. In the long run small things like this do not matter.
  • kristigibsonzeski
    kristigibsonzeski Posts: 17 Member
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    vismal wrote: »
    Veggies hardly have any cals. so no I do not believe that you need to weigh them, I just do an estimate of how much I eat. I do not measure anything....I don't have time for that crap. If I stop to lose weight then I will either lower my cal. intake or up my cal. intake. You may not be getting enough cals. if you are working out a lot. I had a problem with that and had to increase my cals. by one to two hundred a day, and it worked.
    Vegetables have calories just like anything else. They are not exempt from tracking. They vary in calories depending on type. Vegetables like potatoes and corn can add up quickly. I frequently eat 2-300 calories+ worth of vegetables a day. Do those calories somehow count less than 300 calories of cookies? It's fine if you don't have to weigh your food but this thread is for people who do. Stating you personally do not does not contribute to the discussion at hand which is how to track calories as accurately as possible.

    Saying to increase calories during a stall is poor advice. If you are not losing weight over the long run, it's because you are not in a deficit (many times because your tracking is inaccurate). If upping your calories caused weight to drop, it was most likely because you were retaining water. The weight lost was not fat. Eating more does not stimulate fat loss. That goes against physics. If you are indeed in a deficit, whether or not the scale immediately shows it, you ARE losing fat. Increasing calories may increase weight loss in the short term, but it will decrease fat loss. I would say it's safe to say most of us are much more concerned over fat loss than water loss.

    HUM....thanks....I lost 67 lbs since Dec. 4th worked in a gym for 5 years....I have a little bit of knowledge on weight loss....but thanks for making me feel like an idiot.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    vismal wrote: »
    Veggies hardly have any cals. so no I do not believe that you need to weigh them, I just do an estimate of how much I eat. I do not measure anything....I don't have time for that crap. If I stop to lose weight then I will either lower my cal. intake or up my cal. intake. You may not be getting enough cals. if you are working out a lot. I had a problem with that and had to increase my cals. by one to two hundred a day, and it worked.
    Vegetables have calories just like anything else. They are not exempt from tracking. They vary in calories depending on type. Vegetables like potatoes and corn can add up quickly. I frequently eat 2-300 calories+ worth of vegetables a day. Do those calories somehow count less than 300 calories of cookies? It's fine if you don't have to weigh your food but this thread is for people who do. Stating you personally do not does not contribute to the discussion at hand which is how to track calories as accurately as possible.

    Saying to increase calories during a stall is poor advice. If you are not losing weight over the long run, it's because you are not in a deficit (many times because your tracking is inaccurate). If upping your calories caused weight to drop, it was most likely because you were retaining water. The weight lost was not fat. Eating more does not stimulate fat loss. That goes against physics. If you are indeed in a deficit, whether or not the scale immediately shows it, you ARE losing fat. Increasing calories may increase weight loss in the short term, but it will decrease fat loss. I would say it's safe to say most of us are much more concerned over fat loss than water loss.

    HUM....thanks....I lost 67 lbs since Dec. 4th worked in a gym for 5 years....I have a little bit of knowledge on weight loss....but thanks for making me feel like an idiot.
    Whether or not you work in a gym or personally lost weight does not mean what you said was correct. My response was not intended to make you feel like an idiot, rather to clear up misinformation that confuses new users who come to this thread. It is a very common myth that sometimes eating more will cause faster results. In the short term it might due to water fluctuations. This is especially confusing for new people because they see the scale go down and automatically assume eating more is the key to faster weight loss. It simply isn't the truth though. These are important things for people to learn. Fitness myths complicate things that need not be complicated.

  • Extra86
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    vismal wrote: »
    Calorie Counting 101

    With the crazy amount of "I'm eating 1200 calories and I'm not losing weight" or "My weight loss has stalled" threads that get posted every day I decided to copy a calorie counting sticky I wrote for another forum. This is a guide to help ensure as much accuracy as possible when counting calories. It may seem OCD to some but for beginners I feel the more accurate they can be, the better. Before you post about how you can't count calories because of an ED, this thread isn't for you. If you have psychological issues with counting calories, simply don't. This thread is to help those who want to use calorie counting as a means to lose weight. It is based on the fact that if you eat less calories then you burn in a day you will lose weight. If you do not believe in this fact then please just don't post here. This thread is also not about how much you should eat and what you should eat. It is simply about how to accurately track what you do eat. Please keep the reply's to things that deal with calorie counting. If you want to talk about any of the aforementioned things, start a new thread.

    Logging foods: In the old days, to calorie count, we had to use paper and pencil. This is why programs like weight watchers became so popular. It essentially dumbed down calorie counting to a point system and made things easier to track. With the advent of software like Myfitnesspal, there is no need for the dumbing down. You can track calories, macro nutrients, micro nutrients, and exercise with very little hassle.

    To correctly implement calorie counting you must log everything you consume in a day that contains calories. This includes liquids and/or supplements that contain calories. Some people also log calorie free foods (gum, diet soda, black coffee, etc). Since they do not contain any calories, this is optional. They may however contain something that you want to track (vitamins, minerals, sodium).

    Weighing foods: You must weigh your foods! Do not estimate! Weigh everything on a kitchen scale. Preferably a digital scale that weighs in grams. Only liquids should be measured by volume (cups tablespoons, etc). On a package of oatmeal the label will usually say that a serving size is ½ cup. It will also have 40g in parentheses. Use a scale to weigh out 40 grams. You will find that if you dump oats into a ½ cup measuring cup that it won’t always equal 40 grams. This becomes more important with calorically dense food such as peanut butter. 1 tablespoon is usually 100 calories, however one can easily put 2-3 “tablespoons” worth of peanut butter on the end of a normal kitchen spoon. Instead weigh the peanut butter according to how many grams are in a serving. The same goes for scoopers found in supplements. One scoop of whey does not always equal 1 serving. Always weigh your whey! Here are some links to a couple of kitchen scales for purchase:
    http://www.amazon.com/EatSmart-Precision-Digital-Kitchen-Silver/dp/B001N07KUE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1391480839&sr=8-5&keywords=eatsmart+scale
    http://www.amazon.com/Ozeri-Digital-Multifunction-Kitchen-Elegant/dp/B004164SRA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391480816&sr=8-1&keywords=food+scale

    [b[Handling foods with no nutritional information[/b]: Sometimes fruits, vegetables, and meats do not come with nutritional information. The USDA has a comprehensive list of nearly all fruits, vegetables, and many different cuts of meats in grams.

    http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list

    Using myfitnesspal you can simply search the fruit, vegetable, or meat with “usda” afterwards to obtain the same nutritional information. When weighing meat, ALWAYS WEIGH IT RAW. The nutritional facts are based on the raw weight of meat unless packaging specifically states otherwise. This is true for just about any food you cook. If you are simply searching the database for a food with no nutritional information, be wise at what you pick. Don't pick the one option that is significantly lower in calories then all the others simply because it is. You must also be careful with the bar code scanner. Sometimes the scanner will not give you the correct product. Verify this whenever possible.

    Dining out: When dining out, attempt to find nutritional information on the restaurant you are at. Many larger chains have all that information available. Know that this is somewhat of an estimate as they are not weighing things to the gram in the kitchen. They also might be liberal with ingredients like butter and oil which can add up quickly. If the restaurant does not provide nutritional information for their meals, attempt to deconstruct your meal and track it piece by piece. If you want to be 100% accurate you can bring a scale to a restaurant. This not something I do as I don't often eat out, but depending on how accurate you wish to be, it is an option. It's worth considering if you eat out frequently.

    Accuracy: Accept the fact that you will never be 100% accurate. The FDA allows for up to a 20% margin of error with nutritional information. You must simply do the best you can possibly do to not let that margin grow any larger by estimating what you have eaten. Along these lines you will find products that claim to be zero calories like mustard, cooking spray, and many others. They actually have somewhere between 0-5 calories per serving. Because of rounding they can claim zero on the label. If you want to be precise, count them as 5 calories a serving. This is increasingly important if you consume these products frequently.

    Once you have a solid idea of what your daily/weekly consumption is like, it is easy to manipulate calories to fulfill whatever your goals may be. Before you decide that you need to increase or decrease calories to help accomplish goals, ask yourself “Am I tracking everything correctly?” Are you drinking something with calories and not counting it? Are you weighing everything to the gram? Are you having cheat days/meals that you are not tracking? If you answer yes to any of these then your caloric goals may be correct, you are simply not meeting them. Know that if you eat 1500 calories a day and have a once a week cheat day of 3000 calories you are effectively eating 1714 calories a day. This is why you need to track your cheat days. It's okay to have them but if you track them, you can prevent them from skewing your results.

    Tips:Here are some tips that I personally like to use in my own tracking of calories:

    When weighing condiments I zero the scale with the container sitting on the scale. I apply the condiments to my food. I then put the container back on the scale. It will read a negative number in grams. That is how much condiment I used. This does not work for aerosols like pam or whip cream.

    If my goal is weight loss and am going out to eat at a restaurant with no nutritional information, I reconstruct the meal in myfitnesspal and add 10% to the caloric total. This is in case I underestimated. Research shows humans are notorious at underestimating what they eat. In the rare case I overestimated the calories contained in the meal, I can enjoy a small extra deficit for the day. Even if they do provide nutritional information, this might be worth doing. Again, the chef is going to exercise portion control but he isn't weight his butter or your steak on a food scale and tracking to the gram.

    Myfitnesspal lets you enter in your own foods. If something is not in their database you can add it. I get my burritos from Chipotle the same way every time. They have all their nutritional information listed on their website. After I determine the values of my burrito I create the food in MFP and don’t have to bother with it next time. The same goes for Subway.

    If you want to weigh liquids, this site will help you based on what liquid you are weighing http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/cooking/

    Final thoughts: Counting calories is in my opinion the best thing one can do to help lose weight. This guide was written to help you be as close to 100% accurate as possible. Some of you might not like the idea of bringing a food scale to a restaurant or weighing condiments. These things aren't musts. If you don’t want to do them then you must accept that you will be less accurate than if you had. If you are a bodybuilder preparing for a competition then you will want to be as accurate as humanly possible. If you are just trying to lose weight with no real deadlines and don’t mind if your diet takes a few weeks longer than planned, feel free to be a little less strict. If you find you are not losing weight despite the fact that your caloric intake is low enough that you should be, then you need to start considering doing things like weighing condiments. Only then can you be truly sure it is time to lower calories. I hope this guide helps you guys. Feel free to add your own tips and ask questions! Again, don't turn this into a debate about anything, that isn't the intention of this thread. Make sure your reply's are about calorie counting!

  • Extra86
    Extra86 Posts: 21 Member
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    Do you change your caloric intake as you lose weight because a lower weight shows that you consume less calories. How often should you adjust your calorie requirements since MFP doesn't do it automatically?
  • 12souza
    12souza Posts: 9 Member
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    with your weighing of condiments... whats the difference between your method and just zero'ing the scale with your food on it then applying? is there a difference in accuracy?