Eat a big breakfast.. .

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  • Carol_
    Carol_ Posts: 469 Member
    Oh..how sweet! lol... Thank you!
  • LBuehrle8
    LBuehrle8 Posts: 4,044 Member
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    Is there some alternate definition of "attacking", "mockery", and "rudeness" that is able to be referenced somewhere? Like how there's an urban dictionary with slang terms, is there an Internet forum dictionary where words have different meanings and tone can be inferred where it doesn't exist?

    Whenever we have one of these posts where either the OP or the white knighters complain about how they were attacked and mocked with the rude responses from the posters I always go back and reread the entire thread thinking I must have just missed a couple of posts. I'm just not seeing it. As others have said, the rudest responses in here were from the OP...

    +1
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ncboiler89 wrote: »
    This thread is a candidate for being closed. No useful discussion being made anymore.

    correction, this thread should of never been created.

    Or perhaps you should have (not of) never read it since you weren't interested in the subject matter.

    and you are here, why?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    What the heck happened to this friggin thread? I leave and everything falls apart. I guess I should never leave. Sorry, rabbit. I was just responding to my fans. Here ya go:

    @2015 copyright @rabbitjb

    the white knights rode in, in force….
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Dnarules wrote: »
    draznyth wrote: »
    so new people show up with "advice" that could end up throwing other newbs off track. just let them spew their advice anyway? no thx

    if they can take their lumps and stick around then they might learn something and end up with actual good advice to give others in the future.

    This is what burns me. There is nothing in this thread that could throw a newbie off. You guys have an awful high opinion of yourselves. I've learned a lot in these threads, but some of the arrogance floors me. You can come in and say meal timing doesn't matter, which I completely agree with. But you don't need the rest. If it makes you feel scientific and smart, go for it, because it doesn't affect me. But I hate to see the affect it has on others.

    And I realize that some of you are tired of dealing with the same questions and topics all the time. But if you've gotten to the point where you have to belittle, maybe you should take a friggin break.

    really? An article saying that you should eat a big breakfast because it leads to weight loss is not going to throw people off? The article even references a "study" however, it does to link one to it…

    how do you think we get all the "can I do this cleanse?" or "is sugar bad?" or all the other bro science threads around here….? Someone reads an article on the internet, posts it on here, and others think it is actual science…

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    this thread has Arethra in it

    it's all about the win :)
  • suke28
    suke28 Posts: 22 Member
    Breakfast is my biggest meal of the day, but only because it's my favorite meal of the day.
    This
  • NobodyPutsAmyInTheCorner
    NobodyPutsAmyInTheCorner Posts: 1,018 Member
    I'm totally blaming this thread. I've been and bought square sausage, pancetta and a big carton of eggs now ready for the weekend. If I get fat. I'm blaming this thread. Not the OP though. She seems quite nice when she's not getting upset at everyone.

    Stick around... We grow on you I promise :)
  • Chrysalid2014
    Chrysalid2014 Posts: 1,038 Member
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.
    That's bollocks

    Protein timing is unimportant
  • ncboiler89
    ncboiler89 Posts: 2,408 Member
    katem999 wrote: »
    ok everyone, let's break it up, the Tone Police are here, party's over.

    lol
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

    total pseudo science...

    do you have a study on this?

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

    I generally don't eat that much for breakfast and consume much more than 60g of protein per day. How much LBM will I lose?

    you already lost all of it...
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

    total pseudo science...

    do you have a study on this?

    Well it was the certified nutritionist guy in the other thread who told her she needed to up her protein, so maybe he also gave her the bunk about timing/frequency. And he doesn't provide studies, so I guess it will always be a mystery.

    And now, some science. Meal timing/frequency doesn't an impact on weight loss:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11319656

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1905998

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15085170

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8399092

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8383639

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21123467

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
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  • Chrysalid2014
    Chrysalid2014 Posts: 1,038 Member
    edited May 2015
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

    total pseudo science...

    do you have a study on this?

    Here's the article I read. The two studies it's based on are referenced at the beginning.
    http://www.precisionnutrition.com/protein-limit

    Note that I'm concerned with preserving LBM, I'm not as concerned with the "other protein benefits" the writer goes into.

    I wish it wasn't true because I don't like eating breakfast.

    [Edit: p.s... links to the actual studies:]
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19699838
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19056590
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

    total pseudo science...

    do you have a study on this?

    Here's the article I read. The two studies it's based on are referenced at the beginning.
    http://www.precisionnutrition.com/protein-limit

    Note that I'm concerned with preserving LBM, I'm not as concerned with the "other protein benefits" the writer goes into.

    I wish it wasn't true because I don't like eating breakfast.

    [Edit: p.s... links to the actual studies:]
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19699838
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19056590

    I think what the first one is saying:
    In summary, a large 340 g serving of lean beef, increases mixed muscle protein synthesis by approximately 50% in both the young and the elderly. However, a moderate size portion (113 g) represents an equally effective and more energetically efficient means of stimulating muscle protein synthesis than the 3-fold larger serving. We suggest that instead of a single, large protein-rich meal, ingestion of multiple moderate-sized servings of high quality protein-rich foods over the course of a day may represent an effective means of optimizing the potential for muscle growth while permitting greater control over total energy and nutrient intake.

    Is that having your protein throughout the day rather than just in one meal is better for protein synthesis. But I don't know many people who just eat protein at one meal (especially over 113-340g of it!), so I don't think it would apply to the masses.

    The second study is focusing on protein ingestion directly after exercise and concludes that amino acid availability may play a greater role than protein intake.

    So it seems like, from these studies, eating moderate amounts of protein throughout the day is the way to go. You're still fine not eating breakfast.
  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.

    muh gainz

    dey leavin me
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    Since we're all here and everyone is saying meal timing doesn't matter...

    Having recently been told that I need to up my protein intake considerably, I've now just discovered that this increased amount of protein also needs to be consumed at a rate of no more than 20-30g per meal, spaced at least three hours apart. Apparently anything more than that at one meal is not going to count toward helping preserve LBM.

    So I guess meal timing does matter after all.

    So if your protein needs are more than 60g a day and you want to preserve LBM then yes, you probably do need to eat breakfast.



    Try telling that to Martin Berkhan.
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