Empty calories list....
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I love food and I've lost a stone eating anything I want but within limits with little exercise, so they chat bubbles! going to have my chocolate cake now yummy0
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What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
You want me to eat broccoli to get my 130g of protein per day? And also to fill my fat requirements? I never knew broccoli was so magical.0 -
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lemurcat12 wrote: »
Hi,
any excess of trans fat, causes delay in the normal function of endothelial cells which may take up to 8 hours, so it will interfere with the beneficial effects of the remaining nutrients.
Now there is good pizza as stated above made with raw food.
I am referring to fast food pizza loaded with trans fat and other industrial ingredients
what if I get fast food pizza loaded with vegetables, is it then good?
Hi,
if you make your own pizza loaded with vegetables very fast, i think it´s ok... lol0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »
Hi,
any excess of trans fat, causes delay in the normal function of endothelial cells which may take up to 8 hours, so it will interfere with the beneficial effects of the remaining nutrients.
Now there is good pizza as stated above made with raw food.
I am referring to fast food pizza loaded with trans fat and other industrial ingredients
what if I get fast food pizza loaded with vegetables, is it then good?
Hi,
if you make your own pizza loaded with vegetables very fast, i think it´s ok... lol
that was not my question….
my question is - if you get a fast food pizza loaded with vegetables is it then good? Or still bad…?0 -
I started a thread for things like this...perhaps you can add "empty calories" to the list haha
community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10171943/what-health-sayings-drive-you-crazy-ie-detox-cleanse-etc#latest0 -
doktorglass wrote: »You're completely moving your goal post.
I'm going to assume that you would consider a serving of gummi bears to be empty calories but do you think that a person going for a 5k, or whatever k run would definately consider them empty?
... empty calories =/= specific food items.
Two identical persons, A and B need 2000kcal each to maintain weight and health. All nutrients needed for a human must be contained in those 2000kcal. That includes the necessary amounts of carbs, fats and protein. Which also includes a serving of gummy bears for A and B.
Person A eats nutrient dense food so that nutrient goals are met within 2000kcal. Person B eats less nutrient dense food. According to the definition, the nutrient dense food is diluted with solid fats and refined sugar. Instead of eating just gummy bears, B fried and battered the gummy bears and dipped them in powdered sugar, diluting the food item's nutrient density. Persons A and B eat exactly the same amount of food for each meal, but now person B must add an extra meal of 500kcal to meet their nutrient goals. And as a result gains weight. Since person B could just have removed the fried batter and powdered sugar and saved 500kcal without any effect on the nutritional profile of the food, they call the extra 500kcal, empty calories.
Whether person B likes fried gummy bears and feel better including it in its diet is beside the point. Empty calories is just an aspect of health that they are interested in.
What in the world are you even talking about? Diluting nutrients? Fats dilute nutrients? Sugar dilutes nutrients? The glucose in fruit dilutes nutrients? Oh wait, i guess they have to be refined for your body to do that right? And who eats deep fried gummi bears covered in sugar? If there was ever a strawman award you ended the contest forever with that one.
You aren't using your ability to apply situations to real life.
I was thinking that too ..
so essentially eating some fat on your vegetable pizza cancels out the nutrients in the vegetables??
as I points out early, it is a useless definition ...0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »
Hi,
any excess of trans fat, causes delay in the normal function of endothelial cells which may take up to 8 hours, so it will interfere with the beneficial effects of the remaining nutrients.
Now there is good pizza as stated above made with raw food.
I am referring to fast food pizza loaded with trans fat and other industrial ingredients
Um, why on earth would you assume we were talking about pizza loaded with transfat. The example was about the cheese in pizza, I believe.
Pizza made with raw (uncooked) food sounds disgusting.0 -
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What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
I'd hate to eat over 2 kilos of broccoli just to get the minimum requirement of protein for a sedentary person. Daily.0 -
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But honestly, look around the next time you're out and about. *Most* people aren't fat from healthy food. With enough skills they could learn to eat those foods in moderation, but they need to start somewhere.
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spot on - no one got fat from grilled protein and vegies
easy to over eat on the devlish stuff
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What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
100 grams of broccoli has 3 grams of protein. You cannot reasonably get your protein from broccoli. (Granted, it's a slightly better source of protein than fat.)0 -
But honestly, look around the next time you're out and about. *Most* people aren't fat from healthy food. With enough skills they could learn to eat those foods in moderation, but they need to start somewhere.
spot on - no one got fat from grilled protein and vegies
easy to over eat on the devlish everything stuff
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fixed it for you
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What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
You want me to eat broccoli to get my 130g of protein per day? And also to fill my fat requirements? I never knew broccoli was so magical.
You only need about 4300 grams of broccoli.
Get eating!0 -
Someone posted this link in another thread as a "definition for empty calories.
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/weight-management-calories/calories/empty-calories.html
here is a snippet
Solid fats and added sugars can make a food or beverage more appealing, but they also can add a lot of calories. The foods and beverages that provide the most empty calories for Americans are:
picture of pepperoni pizza Cakes, cookies, pastries, and donuts (contain both solid fat and added sugars)
Sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, and fruit drinks (contain added sugars)
Cheese (contains solid fat)
Pizza (contains solid fat)
Ice cream (contains both solid fat and added sugars)
Sausages, hot dogs, bacon, and ribs (contain solid fat)
I found the list totally ridiculous. I am not sure how pizza would be an empty calorie as it provides fat, protein, and carbs. Also, I don't see how any calorie can be empty as one calorie = one unit of energy ....
Feel free to discus....
Derpers gonna derp.
And people who hate on pizza can all go die in a fire.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
You want me to eat broccoli to get my 130g of protein per day? And also to fill my fat requirements? I never knew broccoli was so magical.
You only need about 4300 grams of broccoli.
Get eating!
I'm turning green just thinking about it...0 -
Empty calories? No. All calories are full...of deliciousness.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
You want me to eat broccoli to get my 130g of protein per day? And also to fill my fat requirements? I never knew broccoli was so magical.
You only need about 4300 grams of broccoli.
Get eating!
I'm turning green just thinking about it...
Various parts of me are clenching at the thought.0 -
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lemurcat12 wrote: »What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
You want me to eat broccoli to get my 130g of protein per day? And also to fill my fat requirements? I never knew broccoli was so magical.
You only need about 4300 grams of broccoli.
Get eating!
I'm turning green just thinking about it...
Various parts of me are clenching at the thought.
I'm wondering how many air purifiers I'd need to buy...0 -
I just noticed that ribs on is on that list…how the hell would ribs be empty??????0
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What in the world are you even talking about? Diluting nutrients? Fats dilute nutrients? Sugar dilutes nutrients? The glucose in fruit dilutes nutrients? Oh wait, i guess they have to be refined for your body to do that right? And who eats deep fried gummi bears covered in sugar? If there was ever a strawman award you ended the contest forever with that one.
You aren't using your ability to apply situations to real life.
You are right, I refrained from real life situations. I don't think I set up a false representation of the argument, or any arguments for that matter. I was just trying to offer a hypothetical and stylized example to illustrate how the actual measurement probably is made. I am sorry if this was not clear.0 -
doktorglass wrote: »What in the world are you even talking about? Diluting nutrients? Fats dilute nutrients? Sugar dilutes nutrients? The glucose in fruit dilutes nutrients? Oh wait, i guess they have to be refined for your body to do that right? And who eats deep fried gummi bears covered in sugar? If there was ever a strawman award you ended the contest forever with that one.
You aren't using your ability to apply situations to real life.
You are right, I refrained from real life situations. I don't think I set up a false representation of the argument, or any arguments for that matter. I was just trying to offer a hypothetical and stylized example to illustrate how the actual measurement probably is made. I am sorry if this was not clear.
In a real life example, you can hit all your nutrients long before you're at 2000 calories.0 -
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right, so when i put BBQ sauce on my ribs they become empty …
I guess I should move out of the south ….0 -
debsdoingthis wrote: »
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.spacequiztime wrote: »
They eat cauliflower pizzas topped with fat free cheese!strong_curves wrote: »So what do they eat? Air??
lol dammit, why don't I have a like button.
This looks more like a delicious calorie list.0 -
right, so when i put BBQ sauce on my ribs they become empty …
I guess I should move out of the south ….
I'll save you from yourself. Just ship me all of your delicious bbq and I will properly dispose of it...0 -
right, so when i put BBQ sauce on my ribs they become empty …
I guess I should move out of the south ….
I don't think it's just the sauce. I think they are saying anything high fat (if it's sat fat, at least).
That's why my examples of pork shoulder and skin-on chicken above would have lots of empty calories according to that way of thinking about it.
Which, for the record, I do not agree with.
Edit to add:
"Solid fats are fats that are solid at room temperature, like butter, beef fat, and shortening. Some solid fats are found naturally in foods."0
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