How can I get toned with strength training without looking bulky?
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There's just no way I could get there because my arms look like hers, but I still have fat in my midsection because genetics. So again... either it's more muscular arms (because lower body fat on them) or a flat belly (ok, if I didn't have loose skin) for me.
All I'm saying is that no, it's not always possible to get the look you're looking for depending on your genetics. I'd probably end up with arms like Madonna before I lose the rest of my belly/hip fat... which looks 'muscular' and 'bulky' to me. I think it's what people mean when they say that they don't want to get bulky by lifting... I don't want arms like that. Legs I don't care, but they're pretty lean and muscular already as well (because again, all my fat is in my midsection, lol).
I guess we all have different ideas of what we want and what we find attractive.
See, I actually think her arms are a bit… soft. I don’t want to use the word “flabby”, but... It just goes to show, our views are diametrically opposite.
Anyhow, I
musclez, so yeah. 0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It's not that you don't find low body fat aesthetically pleasing that's the problem. That's a matter of personal taste, and of course you are entitled to preference.
You're just misusing a word. Bulk means mass. Madonna doesn't have great amounts of muscle mass. What she has is visible definition due to low body fat.
Why are you taking it personally? She still has more muscle mass than I like, so, for ME, she is bulky.
OK this isn't going anywhere I'm out of here, lol.
This amount of muscle may be more to your liking then.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It's not that you don't find low body fat aesthetically pleasing that's the problem. That's a matter of personal taste, and of course you are entitled to preference.
You're just misusing a word. Bulk means mass. Madonna doesn't have great amounts of muscle mass. What she has is visible definition due to low body fat.
Why are you taking it personally? She still has more muscle mass than I like, so, for ME, she is bulky.
OK this isn't going anywhere I'm out of here, lol.
This amount of muscle may be more to your liking then.
Bwhahahaha! :laugh:0 -
If we're calling dibs, can I go ahead and take Brad Pitt from a few pages back?0 -
stevencloser wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »So she was lean and shredded in this picture. I don't see a lot of muscle mass though which is what bulky is.
She looks bulky to me in the image above (the jogging one). Sorry if my opinion bothers some of you
But I agree, there's also the whole 'low body fat' thing (which I'm definitely not afraid of getting, because that's not gonna happen). But it's a good point. And that's the problem with lifting, you can't decide where you lose the fat, so you might end up with arms more defined than you'd like just to get a flat belly.
It's not that you don't find low body fat aesthetically pleasing that's the problem. That's a matter of personal taste, and of course you are entitled to preference.
You're just misusing a word. Bulk means mass. Madonna doesn't have great amounts of muscle mass. What she has is visible definition due to low body fat.
Why are you taking it personally? She still has more muscle mass than I like, so, for ME, she is bulky.
OK this isn't going anywhere I'm out of here, lol.
This amount of muscle may be more to your liking then.
LOLOLOLOL
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All of it? I kind of had my eye on D3.0 -
Also, Buzzfeed has been pretty cool lately.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/sallytamarkin/this-is-what-women-who-lift-weights-actually-look-like0 -
Wow, I had no idea expressing an opinion would be so...inflaming.
I am not against having body strength. I've had friends and coworkers who were in the military (one was a woman who was a PT stud) and they've all told me there are a variety of ways to strengthen and gain muscles without lifting much at all.
What seems concerning is this idea or assumption if women isn't on board with lifting weights, she must be against losing fat, getting healthier, losing weight, or having strength. Or if she doesn't care for muscle definition she wants to be fat. Of course a lot of women want to have muscle and bone strength; most people don't want to break a hip from a fall in old age. Not really sure how "bulky" turned into "be fat", either. Why does it always have to be opposing?
Yes, I do believe a certain layer of fat is required if you're interested in a physical ideal. I'll own that...but I am not really interested in looking like Madonna or having Jessica's arms because that's not appealing to me. The "stacked" look or high muscle definition if you will. Personally, I find a physique like Maria Menounos to be appealing because she has muscle without it being obvious.
A lot of women would find these physiques to be ideal:
http://www.spyghana.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/maria-menounos-body-diet.jpg
http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2014/09/24104577/425_miranda_lambert_bikini.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/23/1416775211029_Image_galleryImage__MINIMUM_FEE_250_PER_IMAG.JPG
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/07/article-2229369-15E6B4C6000005DC-859_306x623.jpg
Also, it might surprise people to learn ballerinas are very strong, in spite of their very lean and streamlined physiques. It takes a lot of strength to be able to make such fine, precise, and powerful movements.0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »Also, it might surprise people to learn ballerinas are very strong, in spite of their very lean and streamlined physiques. It takes a lot of strength to be able to make such fine, precise, and powerful movements.
That doesn't surprise me. But also, have you been to the ballet? Have you brought binoculars? Many ballerinas have amazing muscle definition.0 -
Ok, well I'll take D4 tbh. That's the most attractive to me...like a sexy lineman or farm boy
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arditarose wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Also, it might surprise people to learn ballerinas are very strong, in spite of their very lean and streamlined physiques. It takes a lot of strength to be able to make such fine, precise, and powerful movements.
That doesn't surprise me. But also, have you been to the ballet? Have you brought binoculars? Many ballerinas have amazing muscle definition.
They sure do!
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arditarose wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Also, it might surprise people to learn ballerinas are very strong, in spite of their very lean and streamlined physiques. It takes a lot of strength to be able to make such fine, precise, and powerful movements.
That doesn't surprise me. But also, have you been to the ballet? Have you brought binoculars? Many ballerinas have amazing muscle definition.
They sure do!
I have been following this thread all day. Love this post.0 -
arditarose wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Also, it might surprise people to learn ballerinas are very strong, in spite of their very lean and streamlined physiques. It takes a lot of strength to be able to make such fine, precise, and powerful movements.
That doesn't surprise me. But also, have you been to the ballet? Have you brought binoculars? Many ballerinas have amazing muscle definition.
They sure do!
Gorgeous! The last time I went to the ballet I brought little binoculars and I was in awe of their bodies.0 -
Yes, I've been to the NYC ballet and the muscle definition was obvious in their legs (no surprise), but not in their arms the way Madonna has!
Of course the muscle definition is obvious with the ballerinas in the pictures. It would be a little concerning if there was no definition while they're flexing during dances. However, I doubt they appear that flexed when they aren't dancing. I don't find the "permanent flexed look" appealing.0 -
Well, between all the ladies calling out D3's and A4's, I think someone sank my battleship.0
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Ballet?
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kshama2001 wrote: »Ballet?
This man is incredible!0
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